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Re: what was trayvon martin supposed to do?

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Kayla wrote:...comes at you and grabs you...
When did Zimmerman grab Martin?
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I would say, George Zimmerman was armed.


I have carried a weapon. You know, when you have a weapon on you, you must have already made the mental decision that you would use that weapon.



Knowing that, George Zimmerman got out of his car to pursue Travon Martin.

Travon was on a sidewalk walking AWAY from George Zimmerman.

Aside from being black, Travon was not braking any laws.

George Zimmerman, knowing he was armed, confronted Travon.



George Zimmerman
shot and killed Travon Martin.








...other than that, I really don't care about the details. The details were given by one side only. The side with the guy who is still alive.


So, save your breath. You are not going to change my perception & I sure don't want to affect yours...



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tbieter wrote:Obama's statrment was lmprudent.
so you are saying that it is imprudent to say that rapists should be prosecuted and expelled form the military?
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Re: what was trayvon martin supposed to do?

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John K wrote:
Kayla wrote:...comes at you and grabs you...
When did Zimmerman grab Martin?
do you have any evidence he did not?
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John K wrote: What's the damning evidence against Zimmerman? The prosecuting team didn't seem to come up with much that was convincing.
-the fat fuck started a confrontation that police dispatch advised him against
-he shot an unarmed teenager who was doing nothing unlawful
-he claimed that his life was threatened but offered nothing more than a few scratches to back that claim up

did i miss anything?
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:Trayvon was not braking any laws.
Neither was George, get over it.
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Zimmerman Defense Team: Our Guy Is A Pudgy Loser So He Had To Shoot That Super-Fit Black Kid

http://wonkette.com/522273/zimmerman-de ... -black-kid
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Re: what was trayvon martin supposed to do?

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Kayla wrote:
John K wrote:
Kayla wrote:...comes at you and grabs you...
When did Zimmerman grab Martin?
do you have any evidence he did not?
Does innocent until proven guilty mean anything?
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Re: what was trayvon martin supposed to do?

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he shot an unarmed kid who was not doing anything illegal after starting a confrontation that the police advised him to not start

and he can claim innocence because the only other person who was there was killed by him

what the zimmerman lovers do not realize is that if they are ever in florida, anyone can blow them away with impunity and use exactly the same defense zimmerman did

which is to say

"it was self defense and you can't prove it was not"
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
I would say, George Zimmerman was armed.
Knowing that, George Zimmerman got out of his car to pursue Travon Martin.
Travon was on a sidewalk walking AWAY from George Zimmerman.
Aside from being black, Travon was not braking any laws.
George Zimmerman, knowing he was armed, confronted Travon.
George Zimmerman shot and killed Travon Martin.
...other than that, I really don't care about the details. The details were given by one side only. The side with the guy who is still alive.
So, save your breath. You are not going to change my perception & I sure don't want to affect yours...
No breath needed to type, Bill. Zimmerman walked because the prosecution could do no better than you're doing here. By the way, his name is Trayvon.
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Kayla wrote:
John K wrote: What's the damning evidence against Zimmerman? The prosecuting team didn't seem to come up with much that was convincing.
-the fat fuck started a confrontation that police dispatch advised him against
-he shot an unarmed teenager who was doing nothing unlawful
-he claimed that his life was threatened but offered nothing more than a few scratches to back that claim up

did i miss anything?
You did. You said "a few scratches?" How did Zimmerman's nose get broken?
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Re: what was trayvon martin supposed to do?

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I didn't follow this case closely so I do not know enough about the particulars to commit on anything but generalities. It seems to me that we have an unarmed person dead and another who admits to doing the killing. It just seems to me that there should be some sense of regret or remorse that we all should exhibit. I don't think killing should be glorified like it is a sport or something. Like this, "Oh yeah....who rules man! In your face!" type attitude. Where does that come from?

We have a child dead ....and the circumstances are blurry. Whether or not it was self defense shouldn't the punishment fit the crime? It seems to me we have gotten black and white bat shit crazy about justice. Really...Zimmerman should get the same punishment as if he were the likes of Mason, Bundy or Dahmer? Really? I mean comeone...I think if the punishment would have been less severe perhaps zimmerman would have been convicted? But if I were on a Jury...I would take the punishment into consideration. If I thought the punishment was out of line for the crime committed...then I would probably find the defendant not guilty...not because I wanted to...but because the punishment was hitting below the belt.

I know one of my friends who would send someone to their death for accidentally hitting a pedestrian with their car...even if they were not under the influence. Not that I am linking the two...but it just seems to me that people are not rational when it comes to justice. I think they confuse justice with vengeance.

Let the punishment fit the crime...even in cases of death i say.
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Kayla wrote:is there a philosophically interesting claim there bob
Is using terms like "crazy fat fuck" the way an objective philosopher speaks?
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John K wrote:
Kayla wrote:is there a philosophically interesting claim there bob
Is using terms like "crazy fat fuck" the way an objective philosopher speaks?
it is an appropriate description

zimmerman was clearly a fat fuck as can be seen by his enormous girth - and backed up by his defense, which was that he was too fat and out of shape to use proportionate response to the alleged physical attack by martin

and he was clearly crazy (in the colloquial not medical sense) in that he drove around with a gun and demanded that random people going about their business explain their business to him
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