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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Non sequitur, it does not follow that one must have the solution to your apathetic, lazy selfish life, so that one can call a spade a spade.
:lol: For much of my early life I involved myself in political activities, no matter how little a contribution I could make. I'll take no such guff from you as from what you say you spent much of yours helping build more efficient ways of killing people.

That once again its the other who is at fault shows your issues.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Not surprising from you that believes my meaning, can only be found in your head. Hear any voices lately? ...
Only the one that I use to think with. Does it lead me astray at times, sure but hopefully I'll catch it.
But what I really can't believe is that you actually said that you'd kill your own bloodline of the future, because of your lazy, selfish, wants and desires, (not needs) of your days. You're a sick fuck indeed. It would seem apathetic selfishness is par for your course. Good thing I'm not a "higher Species," or like your kind, I'd train you like the dog that you are. Primarily I'd have you just sit on your head, sorry, er, I meant, ass, as we know you're good at that. Some mindless task that takes no brains, because thinking is definitely not your thing, interesting that Bill seems to understand.
That'll be because you and Bill think alike, its all others faults and you are some kind of 'higher being' who understands all and the rest have some kind of psychological defect.

Whats this 'bloodline' guff? More of your cultural box at work?
You truly are an idiot, you think me simple, yet you act as though you don't understand my meaning, make up your mind, sweetheart!
I don't think you simple, I think you naive or at the very least apathetic about actually acting to your morals and politics whilst sitting on your high-horse about others.
My wife just said you were a fool and an hypocrite, as to "your fellows" and those damn "yanks," she said make up your fucking mind.

I tried to tell her that you were mental.
She's welcome to post here anytime but just for her, I use "Yank" to describe a very specific kind of American who often visits here, not all Americans. Some of its attributes are, an anti-intellectualism which generally expresses itself in belittling education, an ability to talk about a subject, e.g. philosophy without bothering to read any, a need to assign a gender or a sexuality to its interlocutor so that, if female or gay, it can dismiss their thoughts and an end-of-times view of things.
I've always known why you drop off the quote history.
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:lol: Unlike you my nik was a product of circumstance not ego, so your witticism is wasted.
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Well, you know Bill, It's a shame I'm not some all powerful alien, you know, some, so called, higher evolved species, because I can see that I might be persuaded to farm the brains, of some humans, as like shit, I believe they may make good fertilizer, as it would seem, they're good for nothing more.
My wife lives with me it's true, but she said it was a no brainer, actually getting peeved as I attempted to explain it to her, saying, "I understood it, as I first read it," and she only has a high school GED, 'piece of paper.'
My apologies, I did misread the ethical thought experiment. In this case we better hope they don't get a moral conscience and try to solve the issue by setting-up alien nature reserves as from the looks of it we'll soon be extinct due to economics. Lets hope there're some farmers out there.
I think someones a liar! What do you think, "Descending_uk," you know anyone that might fit the bill?
Nah! Because I don't run around thinking this about people. I tend to think that everyone has a positive intention, whats yours?
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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Non sequitur, it does not follow that one must have the solution to your apathetic, lazy selfish life, so that one can call a spade a spade.
:lol: For much of my early life I involved myself in political activities, no matter how little a contribution I could make. I'll take no such guff from you as from what you say you spent much of yours helping build more efficient ways of killing people.

That once again its the other who is at fault shows your issues.
Nope, all your assumption.
And as to solutions, not a requirement to make comment. Comment in and of itself is sufficient, I am no leader, I've told you, I have do desire to tell people how, just how not, I shall not be one of them. I only really want true freedom, to be allowed to be one of me, without the strings. Though I would caution the rest.
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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Not surprising from you that believes my meaning, can only be found in your head. Hear any voices lately? ...
Only the one that I use to think with. Does it lead me astray at times, sure but hopefully I'll catch it.
But what I really can't believe is that you actually said that you'd kill your own bloodline of the future, because of your lazy, selfish, wants and desires, (not needs) of your days. You're a sick fuck indeed. It would seem apathetic selfishness is par for your course. Good thing I'm not a "higher Species," or like your kind, I'd train you like the dog that you are. Primarily I'd have you just sit on your head, sorry, er, I meant, ass, as we know you're good at that. Some mindless task that takes no brains, because thinking is definitely not your thing, interesting that Bill seems to understand.
That'll be because you and Bill think alike, its all others faults and you are some kind of 'higher being' who understands all and the rest have some kind of psychological defect.
Recently I saw a documentary about the people of the amazon, and believe that all the western world, and all the rest for that matter are quite insane, and that only people such as the native amazonian Indians are the sane ones, well actually I'd have to include all the natives of all lands that still exist in some form or another, but only as they once were.


Whats this 'bloodline' guff? More of your cultural box at work?
Don't blame me for your crap, your meaning, not mine.
You truly are an idiot, you think me simple, yet you act as though you don't understand my meaning, make up your mind, sweetheart!
I don't think you simple, I think you naive or at the very least apathetic about actually acting to your morals and politics whilst sitting on your high-horse about others.
One can only act to their morals for themselves, you might want to wrap me up as one of some group, because you subscribe to being a, so called, modern day, clone, but you mistake me for being like you, I am no clone. I do not go along with any group, I am an island.
My wife just said you were a fool and an hypocrite, as to "your fellows" and those damn "yanks," she said make up your fucking mind.

I tried to tell her that you were mental.
She's welcome to post here anytime but just for her, I use "Yank" to describe a very specific kind of American who often visits here, not all Americans. Some of its attributes are, an anti-intellectualism which generally expresses itself in belittling education, an ability to talk about a subject, e.g. philosophy without bothering to read any, a need to assign a gender or a sexuality to its interlocutor so that, if female or gay, it can dismiss their thoughts and an end-of-times view of things.
All things you use as weapons, as if you could know people, merely because they post words here. You are an abuser, as with your emoticons, and this that you say above, an elitist, to maim, and try and step on people with words and gestures, from the safety of a computer keyboard, not because it's just, but rather an outlet for your hate, that you'd never express in ones presence as then the total package of humanity is in play, that which you fear the most, equality, by whatever means to balance the equation.

I've always known why you drop off the quote history.
To Everyone, look below, to see if you're smarter than "Descending_uk".
:lol: Unlike you my nik was a product of circumstance not ego, so your witticism is wasted.
Liar, one thing I know for sure is that you're largely a liar. You would deny your initial intent as to your nym, but your means of entertaining some, betrays the true intent. Arising UK, your bigotry shows it's many faces, Yank only being one of them, arguing as to who's country is better, arising UK, as if any countries actions speaks of any particular individual, or vice-verse, like children playing in a tit for tat putdown game.
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Well, you know Bill, It's a shame I'm not some all powerful alien, you know, some, so called, higher evolved species, because I can see that I might be persuaded to farm the brains, of some humans, as like shit, I believe they may make good fertilizer, as it would seem, they're good for nothing more.
My wife lives with me it's true, but she said it was a no brainer, actually getting peeved as I attempted to explain it to her, saying, "I understood it, as I first read it," and she only has a high school GED, 'piece of paper.'
My apologies, I did misread the ethical thought experiment. In this case we better hope they don't get a moral conscience and try to solve the issue by setting-up alien nature reserves as from the looks of it we'll soon be extinct due to economics. Lets hope there're some farmers out there.
Quit your lying, you knew right from the start, just another example of your dishonesty, as you try and twist ones words, to your meaning, as if it were actually true that ones meaning is necessarily found in another's response. You're full of horseshit, you know that?

My words mimicked to a tee, exactly that which they, and you by association, in their defense, do, though the shoe was merely on the other foot. Funny how humans always think something's OK as long as it's not them that's being treated badly, relativity, people should take more notice of the truth of their concepts, how they pertain across the board.


I think someones a liar! What do you think, "Descending_uk," you know anyone that might fit the bill?
Nah! Because I don't run around thinking this about people. I tend to think that everyone has a positive intention, whats yours?
What did you say about naivete?
To defend myself against bigots like you, I've had enough of your kind, smug in your sense of self righteousness, merely a clone of others ideas. You think I have no education, but you're wrong. One of my History professors mentioned how sometimes what one learns at college is not what one should assimilate, but what they should avoid at all costs, you and I just saw them differently. And I would venture to say that I've seen far more in real life, than you've merely read about, for me that supersedes ideas in a book, because if in fact the constructs of mans civilization collapse, the book worms shall be meat, while those that have actually lived their lives, shall either be the ones eating meat, or watching the spectacle of both, from afar, singing to their own free tune, because they can. If the economy continues to take a nose dive, I know how to live off the land, do you? What's those books for? Kindling? I seriously hope you've read more than philosophy books.

You know what's funny, since, just before I attended university, I've always told kids to make sure they get an education, to go to college, not for anyone else but themselves. But I fucked up. I should have said something else. I should have shown them a picture of you and said, "but what ever you do, don't turn out like this freak, (your picture), and believe you're better than anyone else, just because you have more time in a sterile classroom, as all things are relative, as to their importance in any given frame of reference, such that where ever you may find yourself, you must be capable of blending in to the surroundings, as your life may depend upon it." It's far better to take my lead, as being a jack of all trades. I've been all kinds of things, and no one yet, has gotten the better of me. I am diversity. Though I've mastered none, not enough time. You see, I learned long ago, that one that starts one thing and sees it through to the end, knows that one thing well, they are a master. But if that one thing goes out of style or is no longer capable of sustaining one then they are lost, back to the beginning they go. But one that does many things, well, they always have a platform to fall back on, if what they did becomes undo-able, they may not be masters at the new, but they surely aren't beginners either. Not to mention that they're more capable at handling a broader range of their own affairs without the need to employ others. No, being specialized is more of a burden than a gift. It's why many professionals are still looking for work here in the US, that's commensurate, as to pay, with that of what they made before 2008. Their specialization has left them wanting.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Nope, all your assumption.
And as to solutions, not a requirement to make comment. Comment in and of itself is sufficient, ...
No, its not.
I am no leader, I've told you, I have do desire to tell people how, just how not, I shall not be one of them. ...
Given you say you spent 16 years in the military proves your first claim. Telling people how not to without giving them an alternative is pointless.
I only really want true freedom, to be allowed to be one of me, without the strings. Though I would caution the rest.
Whats 'true freedom' to you? What 'strings' are these you describe? 'Caution' the rest about what?
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UK
Whats 'true freedom' to you?

Like time and consciousness. Determinism and 'freedom'
Are of great interest to me.

And currently.A quote from a movie that is not even related [sort of] and in itself makes my laugh for the non sequitur nature of it.

"the only freedom we really have is to work things out for ourselves"
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And i have to agree with other comments. 'Yanks' that come to australia are either looking for a better life or just blowhard tourists with all the culture of turned milk.

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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Nope, all your assumption.
And as to solutions, not a requirement to make comment. Comment in and of itself is sufficient, ...
No, its not.
Yes, it is!
I am no leader, I've told you, I have do desire to tell people how, just how not, I shall not be one of them. ...
Given you say you spent 16 years in the military proves your first claim. Telling people how not to without giving them an alternative is pointless.
I said I worked for the DOD for 16 years, but never really mentioned in what capacity. Not pointless, you want something for nothing. It's our job collectively, to find the solutions, I don't believe in dictatorships.
I only really want true freedom, to be allowed to be one of me, without the strings. Though I would caution the rest.
Whats 'true freedom' to you? What 'strings' are these you describe? 'Caution' the rest about what?
You should understand as you don't believe in freedom of will. I do not necessarily trust in man's constructs, only that of the universe.
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Hjarloprillar wrote:UK
Whats 'true freedom' to you?

Like time and consciousness. Determinism and 'freedom'
Are of great interest to me.

And currently.A quote from a movie that is not even related [sort of] and in itself makes my laugh for the non sequitur nature of it.

"the only freedom we really have is to work things out for ourselves"
---------------
And i have to agree with other comments. 'Yanks' that come to australia are either looking for a better life or just blowhard tourists with all the culture of turned milk.

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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Yes, it is!
You mean sufficient enough for you to salve your conscience? As from where I sit it just sounds like carping to no effect.
I said I worked for the DOD for 16 years, but never really mentioned in what capacity. Not pointless, you want something for nothing. It's our job collectively, to find the solutions, I don't believe in dictatorships.
And yet you dictate what others should not do? If you worked for the DOD you were working for an organization that at base is designed to kill others. For something to be collective means that you have to join and act not just hope others will do it.
You should understand as you don't believe in freedom of will. I do not necessarily trust in man's constructs, only that of the universe.
I believe in free choice. I have no idea how what you've said answers my questions.
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I do not necessarily trust in man's constructs, only that of the universe.

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Then why DoD. and not say. applied astrophysics, CERN, or even running a scope for astronomy.?
quote": I'll take no such guff from you as from what you say you spent much of yours helping build more efficient ways of killing people."
And that IS what the DoD does.. It IS about WAR.
Every job in DoD is furthering the power projection through war of the US government.
The Dod can strike down any nation on earth. and it wants to keep it this way.

As a military historian. I know this as fact.Name any nation and i'll explain how the US can turn it into a carpark. a territory, a friend.
Unlimited money brings unlimited power.
The Chinese may well one day be the greatest economic power.. But the US will still rule the seas and the high frontier. and that, is all you need to OWN.
read Mahan & MacKinder. and you will understand.

Prill

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Alfred Thayer Mahan. The Influence of Sea Power Upon History: 1660-1783 (ISBN 0-486-25509-3)
What inspires is
"Although his history was relatively thin (he relied on secondary sources), the vigorous style and clear theory won widespread acceptance of navalists across the world."
like you or me he had an idea.. and it stuck.
"Recently scholars have called attention to his role as significant in the growth of American overseas possessions, the rise of the new American navy, and the adoption of the strategic principles upon which it operates.


As an aside i recently read that statistically more navy personnel want to transfer OFF the Carrier [CVN 77] G W Bush than any one ship in naval history.
LOL

maybe the ship is misunderestimated
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Recently I saw a documentary about the people of the amazon, and believe that all the western world, and all the rest for that matter are quite insane, and that only people such as the native amazonian Indians are the sane ones, well actually I'd have to include all the natives of all lands that still exist in some form or another, but only as they once were.
Thats because you live in a mythical world of the 'noble savage' and some 'golden age'.
Don't blame me for your crap, your meaning, not mine.
Ah! Thats right, the only meaning you're concerned with is yours. "Bloodlines" have a long and dubious history. Given that we now know "bloodlines" are nonsense why not just say descendants or family.
One can only act to their morals for themselves, you might want to wrap me up as one of some group, because you subscribe to being a, so called, modern day, clone, but you mistake me for being like you, I am no clone. I do not go along with any group, I am an island.
And as such will be shouting to yourself for some time to come.
All things you use as weapons, as if you could know people, merely because they post words here. You are an abuser, as with your emoticons, and this that you say above, an elitist, to maim, and try and step on people with words and gestures, from the safety of a computer keyboard, not because it's just, but rather an outlet for your hate, that you'd never express in ones presence as then the total package of humanity is in play, that which you fear the most, equality, by whatever means to balance the equation.
I've expressed this opinion and rolled my eyes to a Yanks face before and will be happy to do it again thanks. You think you'd call me a woman or gay to my face? Maybe you would but like I said, you've issues. Please save your psychobabble for you and your shrink.
Liar, one thing I know for sure is that you're largely a liar. You would deny your initial intent as to your nym, but your means of entertaining some, betrays the true intent. Arising UK, your bigotry shows it's many faces, Yank only being one of them, arguing as to who's country is better, arising UK, as if any countries actions speaks of any particular individual, or vice-verse, like children playing in a tit for tat putdown game.
You'll find that it is your fellow Yank who does this upon this forum. I post no such attacks upon others nations.

Your "knowing for sure" is up there with your gender 'intuition' and your accusations are, as usual, false and based largely upon your failure to judge others as not like yourself.

So just for you; my nik was chosen by random circumstance when, way back, I was thinking-up an FPS username and was stumped. At the time BBC Radio 4 was playing its shipping forecast and I kept hearing "rising" so I thought, "That'll do!". The "_uk" I attach to every username I create as a long time back I got sick of the "This username has been taken" error message and found that these three characters are easy for me to remember and pretty much guarantee uniqueness. As I'm lazy and also like to reduce links on the weeb, when I came here I just added an "A" to my FPS nik, as it seemed to work and spelt soemthing I could easily remember. Unlike you I can't be arsed to waste my thoughts thinking up something to reflect my ego, spheres of bonkers or is that bollocks indeed!
Quit your lying, you knew right from the start, just another example of your dishonesty, as you try and twist ones words, to your meaning, as if it were actually true that ones meaning is necessarily found in another's response. You're full of horseshit, you know that?
There you go again! Doing exactly what you decry in others. So no, I think not. Unlike you apparently I feel no need to lie in this medium, as what point? If I was guilty of anything it was in not paying much attention to your words and just thinking them yet another diatribe about killing those who poach or do 'nasty' things to our fellow animals.
My words mimicked to a tee, exactly that which they, and you by association, in their defense, do, though the shoe was merely on the other foot. Funny how humans always think something's OK as long as it's not them that's being treated badly, relativity, people should take more notice of the truth of their concepts, how they pertain across the board.
If you read my reply you'll see I make no such excuse. All I hope in your hypothetical is that they don't take your approach to things as we'll soon be extinct if they do.
What did you say about naivete? ...
I said you were and, unlike you, I don't assume that a positive intention means that the other acts in what I would understand in a moral way.
To defend myself against bigots like you, I've had enough of your kind, smug in your sense of self righteousness, merely a clone of others ideas. You think I have no education, but you're wrong. One of my History professors mentioned how sometimes what one learns at college is not what one should assimilate, but what they should avoid at all costs, you and I just saw them differently. And I would venture to say that I've seen far more in real life, than you've merely read about, for me that supersedes ideas in a book, because if in fact the constructs of mans civilization collapse, the book worms shall be meat, while those that have actually lived their lives, shall either be the ones eating meat, or watching the spectacle of both, from afar, singing to their own free tune, because they can. If the economy continues to take a nose dive, I know how to live off the land, do you? What's those books for? Kindling? I seriously hope you've read more than philosophy books.
I have and can grow veg. But lmao at your 'live off the land', straight out of the American cultural box. Economies go up and down, empires rise and fall and life goes on.

I'm interested in your fantasy tho' as according to you there'll be no land to live off? Also, given you think of yourself as an island I can assume that you're also a doctor, chandler, veterinarian, smith, carpenter, seamstress, cobbler, et al? As to survive man cannot be an island but part of a community.
You know what's funny, since, just before I attended university, I've always told kids to make sure they get an education, to go to college, not for anyone else but themselves. But I fucked up. I should have said something else. I should have shown them a picture of you and said, "but what ever you do, don't turn out like this freak, (your picture), and believe you're better than anyone else, just because you have more time in a sterile classroom, as all things are relative, as to their importance in any given frame of reference, such that where ever you may find yourself, you must be capable of blending in to the surroundings, as your life may depend upon it." It's far better to take my lead, as being a jack of all trades. I've been all kinds of things, and no one yet, has gotten the better of me. I am diversity. Though I've mastered none, not enough time. You see, I learned long ago, that one that starts one thing and sees it through to the end, knows that one thing well, they are a master. But if that one thing goes out of style or is no longer capable of sustaining one then they are lost, back to the beginning they go. But one that does many things, well, they always have a platform to fall back on, if what they did becomes undo-able, they may not be masters at the new, but they surely aren't beginners either. Not to mention that they're more capable at handling a broader range of their own affairs without the need to employ others. No, being specialized is more of a burden than a gift. It's why many professionals are still looking for work here in the US, that's commensurate, as to pay, with that of what they made before 2008. Their specialization has left them wanting.
No, whats left them wanting is that they have not adapted to the reality that they can't get paid the same amount but once they do they'll get a job as in the situation you describe there is downward pressure on jobs and, as usual, it'll be those at the bottom without qualifications who'll suffer the most as employers would rather employ those who have shown application.

For myself, given we've adopted a style of the US system of education, i.e. debt to pay for it, I tell my kids to think long and hard about what they wish to study as they're going to need to find work to pay off their debts.

The rest of your diatribe I'll just put down to your psychological issues.
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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Yes, it is!
You mean sufficient enough for you to salve your conscience? As from where I sit it just sounds like carping to no effect.
Because you're selfish!
I said I worked for the DOD for 16 years, but never really mentioned in what capacity. Not pointless, you want something for nothing. It's our job collectively, to find the solutions, I don't believe in dictatorships.
And yet you dictate what others should not do? If you worked for the DOD you were working for an organization that at base is designed to kill others. For something to be collective means that you have to join and act not just hope others will do it.
Do you really pay attention, or NOT! As I've ALREADY told you, you try and box people in your preconceived notions, that do not account for ones time, life, learning curve, got to eat, current educated state, etc, you've got to be some child, my wife was probably correct, how old are you really, as only a child does not account for what I just highlighted, not enough experience to do so! Either that, or you're a moron. Which is it?

It would seem you have problems accounting for 'now,' being a resultant of 'then.' Not very smart, are you?

You should understand as you don't believe in freedom of will. I do not necessarily trust in man's constructs, only that of the universe.
I believe in free choice. I have no idea how what you've said answers my questions.
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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Recently I saw a documentary about the people of the amazon, and believe that all the western world, and all the rest for that matter are quite insane, and that only people such as the native amazonian Indians are the sane ones, well actually I'd have to include all the natives of all lands that still exist in some form or another, but only as they once were.
Thats because you live in a mythical world of the 'noble savage' and some 'golden age'.
No, your conceptual blindness speaks.
Don't blame me for your crap, your meaning, not mine.
Ah! Thats right, the only meaning you're concerned with is yours. "Bloodlines" have a long and dubious history. Given that we now know "bloodlines" are nonsense why not just say descendants or family.
Your way, my way, take it, or the highway.
One can only act to their morals for themselves, you might want to wrap me up as one of some group, because you subscribe to being a, so called, modern day, clone, but you mistake me for being like you, I am no clone. I do not go along with any group, I am an island.
And as such will be shouting to yourself for some time to come.
True, fools never listen!
All things you use as weapons, as if you could know people, merely because they post words here. You are an abuser, as with your emoticons, and this that you say above, an elitist, to maim, and try and step on people with words and gestures, from the safety of a computer keyboard, not because it's just, but rather an outlet for your hate, that you'd never express in ones presence as then the total package of humanity is in play, that which you fear the most, equality, by whatever means to balance the equation.
I've expressed this opinion and rolled my eyes to a Yanks face before and will be happy to do it again thanks. You think you'd call me a woman or gay to my face? Maybe you would but like I said, you've issues. Please save your psychobabble for you and your shrink.
Remains to be seen. Your fear of psychology again, unless of course the book comes with crayons, a top hat and a wand. "you too can be a magician," please?
Liar, one thing I know for sure is that you're largely a liar. You would deny your initial intent as to your nym, but your means of entertaining some, betrays the true intent. Arising UK, your bigotry shows it's many faces, Yank only being one of them, arguing as to who's country is better, arising UK, as if any countries actions speaks of any particular individual, or vice-verse, like children playing in a tit for tat putdown game.
You'll find that it is your fellow Yank who does this upon this forum. I post no such attacks upon others nations.
You are so quick to engage, birds of a feather!

Your "knowing for sure" is up there with your gender 'intuition' and your accusations are, as usual, false and based largely upon your failure to judge others as not like yourself.
If it walks, talks and acts like a duck, then who am I to argue? It must be a duck.


So just for you; my nik was chosen by random circumstance when, way back, I was thinking-up an FPS username and was stumped. At the time BBC Radio 4 was playing its shipping forecast and I kept hearing "rising" so I thought, "That'll do!". The "_uk" I attach to every username I create as a long time back I got sick of the "This username has been taken" error message and found that these three characters are easy for me to remember and pretty much guarantee uniqueness. As I'm lazy and also like to reduce links on the weeb, when I came here I just added an "A" to my FPS nik, as it seemed to work and spelt soemthing I could easily remember. Unlike you I can't be arsed to waste my thoughts thinking up something to reflect my ego, spheres of bonkers or is that bollocks indeed!
Are you really that dumb? We already went over this in another thread, IDIOT, I'm calling you a liar! You are a simpleton, ever ask yourself why you settled on it? Your bouts with your favorite boob, screams of your inner voice. I'll not explain mine again, for the sake of the forgetful, it's not that important, if you don't get it.
Quit your lying, you knew right from the start, just another example of your dishonesty, as you try and twist ones words, to your meaning, as if it were actually true that ones meaning is necessarily found in another's response. You're full of horseshit, you know that?
There you go again! Doing exactly what you decry in others. So no, I think not. Unlike you apparently I feel no need to lie in this medium, as what point? If I was guilty of anything it was in not paying much attention to your words and just thinking them yet another diatribe about killing those who poach or do 'nasty' things to our fellow animals.
You lie through the choice of your assumption, as it suits your hatred, and self image.
My words mimicked to a tee, exactly that which they, and you by association, in their defense, do, though the shoe was merely on the other foot. Funny how humans always think something's OK as long as it's not them that's being treated badly, relativity, people should take more notice of the truth of their concepts, how they pertain across the board.
If you read my reply you'll see I make no such excuse. All I hope in your hypothetical is that they don't take your approach to things as we'll soon be extinct if they do.
Can you please keep track? We're talking about how you butchered my meaning to suit your ill will. And that's why you shouldn't truncate the 4 quote depth, unless there's another reason you can't keep track.
What did you say about naivete? ...
I said you were and, unlike you, I don't assume that a positive intention means that the other acts in what I would understand in a moral way.
Everyone is naive in one way or another, especially those that seek sophistication for it's sake alone, as they become lost in it.
To defend myself against bigots like you, I've had enough of your kind, smug in your sense of self righteousness, merely a clone of others ideas. You think I have no education, but you're wrong. One of my History professors mentioned how sometimes what one learns at college is not what one should assimilate, but what they should avoid at all costs, you and I just saw them differently. And I would venture to say that I've seen far more in real life, than you've merely read about, for me that supersedes ideas in a book, because if in fact the constructs of mans civilization collapse, the book worms shall be meat, while those that have actually lived their lives, shall either be the ones eating meat, or watching the spectacle of both, from afar, singing to their own free tune, because they can. If the economy continues to take a nose dive, I know how to live off the land, do you? What's those books for? Kindling? I seriously hope you've read more than philosophy books.
I have and can grow veg. But lmao at your 'live off the land', straight out of the American cultural box. Economies go up and down, empires rise and fall and life goes on.
A fools answer, where being equipped, and at the ready, is the point. That you see it exclusively American, is false, though our youth my prove valuable to many more things.


I'm interested in your fantasy tho' as according to you there'll be no land to live off? Also, given you think of yourself as an island I can assume that you're also a doctor, chandler, veterinarian, smith, carpenter, seamstress, cobbler, et al? As to survive man cannot be an island but part of a community.
You have me confused with someone else. I am what I need to be. I have a mate and family, that's enough.
You know what's funny, since, just before I attended university, I've always told kids to make sure they get an education, to go to college, not for anyone else but themselves. But I fucked up. I should have said something else. I should have shown them a picture of you and said, "but what ever you do, don't turn out like this freak, (your picture), and believe you're better than anyone else, just because you have more time in a sterile classroom, as all things are relative, as to their importance in any given frame of reference, such that where ever you may find yourself, you must be capable of blending in to the surroundings, as your life may depend upon it." It's far better to take my lead, as being a jack of all trades. I've been all kinds of things, and no one yet, has gotten the better of me. I am diversity. Though I've mastered none, not enough time. You see, I learned long ago, that one that starts one thing and sees it through to the end, knows that one thing well, they are a master. But if that one thing goes out of style or is no longer capable of sustaining one then they are lost, back to the beginning they go. But one that does many things, well, they always have a platform to fall back on, if what they did becomes undo-able, they may not be masters at the new, but they surely aren't beginners either. Not to mention that they're more capable at handling a broader range of their own affairs without the need to employ others. No, being specialized is more of a burden than a gift. It's why many professionals are still looking for work here in the US, that's commensurate, as to pay, with that of what they made before 2008. Their specialization has left them wanting.
No, whats left them wanting is that they have not adapted to the reality that they can't get paid the same amount but once they do they'll get a job as in the situation you describe there is downward pressure on jobs and, as usual, it'll be those at the bottom without qualifications who'll suffer the most as employers would rather employ those who have shown application.
Not if one of the individuals application has nothing to do with the job at hand while the other does, regardless of the level achieved of the inapplicable application. Sorry, wrong answer. An employer would rather have one that is an apprentice, or a journeyman, that they can train to become a master, than to start with one that knows nothing of the job, but has a PhD in basket weaving.


For myself, given we've adopted a style of the US system of education, i.e. debt to pay for it, I tell my kids to think long and hard about what they wish to study as they're going to need to find work to pay off their debts.
Yet one cannot foretell the future. When I went to university, during counseling, after passing the entrance exam, they asked me, 'what do you want to focus on, for your career,' I instantly reeled in disgust and said, 'I do not attend university for a job, I only seek knowledge of the world.' To which they said, 'then General Studies it should be, as it has the most free electives.' I said, 'yes that sounds great!'

The rest of your diatribe I'll just put down to your psychological issues.
Because you're a fool, as you know not my issues, just like I don't know yours.
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Re: Does This Make Sense?

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Concerning war.
i suggest few others are shy of the skirmish of Arising UK and SOB. a constant source of amusement.,keep it up.
we wait for next witty repartee or knife in gut.,,

Be true and give a good show
for we are all walking shadows.

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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Re: Does This Make Sense?

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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Because you're selfish!
Nope, its because I've actually been involved in movements that seek to change a situation. Its easy to say what not to do, much harder to say what to do and then go out and attempt to do it.
Do you really pay attention, or NOT! As I've ALREADY told you, you try and box people in your preconceived notions, that do not account for ones time, life, learning curve, got to eat, current educated state, etc, you've got to be some child, my wife was probably correct, how old are you really, as only a child does not account for what I just highlighted, not enough experience to do so! Either that, or you're a moron. Which is it?
Neither. I find it laughable that you use this as an excuse when you don't think it may apply it to those who poach. Instead you just think them 'murderers' who should, if you had your way, be killed.
would seem you have problems accounting for 'now,' being a resultant of 'then.' Not very smart, are you?
But 'then' you did something, help kill people, 'now' you do nothing to assuage what you rail about, i.e. save the large mammals. What changed?
Yes, I thought it might escape you.
Why? Because I think this idea of the 'universes constructs' pretty much meaningless when contrasted to 'mans constructs' as they only have meaning via mans constructs. Unless of course you believe in a 'god', etc.
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