Is Christ the path to the beast? Or to the contrary

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Arising_uk wrote:Then how will this 'Christ' be reigning for a thousand years after it? Given it is not going to happen as its just an allegory.
Christ reigning a thousand years, like the book of Revelation itself, is allegorical.
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So basically no armageddon, no second coming of 'Christ', no 'God' or 'its will on earth', no revelation there then.
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lets say there was this thousand year reich, what happened to end it?
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bobevenson wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:Then how will this 'Christ' be reigning for a thousand years after it? Given it is not going to happen as its just an allegory.
Christ reigning a thousand years, like the book of Revelation itself, is allegorical.
Spatio-temporal events can't be allegorical.
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Ginkgo wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:Then how will this 'Christ' be reigning for a thousand years after it? Given it is not going to happen as its just an allegory.
Christ reigning a thousand years, like the book of Revelation itself, is allegorical.
Spatio-temporal events can't be allegorical.
You talk dumber than that British bitch.
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bobevenson wrote:You talk dumber than that British bitch.
How very Christian of you but then according to them you're a heretic. So anti-baptist for you then.
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Arising_uk wrote:
bobevenson wrote:You talk dumber than that British bitch.
How very Christian of you but then according to them you're a heretic.
I beg to differ with you. The spokesman for the Spiritual Counterfeits Project, a Christian organization, had to wonder if what I said is true (which, of course, it is, since I'm a prophet).
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He also said, "So what?".
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Arising_uk wrote:He also said, "So what?".
So what, that doesn't make any difference, what's important, of course, is that even he had to concede that what I said could be true.
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bobevenson wrote:So what, that doesn't make any difference, what's important, of course, is that even he had to concede that what I said could be true.
Many things could be true bob, that doesn't necessarily make them so.
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Arising_uk wrote:
bobevenson wrote:So what, that doesn't make any difference, what's important, of course, is that even he had to concede that what I said could be true.
Many things could be true bob, that doesn't necessarily make them so.
If I had told the man that God was Satan, he wouldn't have wondered if it was true. Class dismissed!
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bobevenson wrote:If I had told the man that God was Satan, he wouldn't have wondered if it was true. Class dismissed!
You're right. he would have thought you of the gnostic ilk and dismissed you as a heretic.

Still not hearing an answer to "So what?".
p.s.
Although thought this a nice christian reply to one of your apparently endless trawlings.

"False christs and false prophets will appear and produce signs and omens, to lead astray, if possible, the elect. - Mark 13:22

Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you. Avoid the profane chatter and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge; by professing it some have missed the mark as regards the faith.

Grace be with you. -1 Timothy 6:20-21"
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LMFAO! You even posted on the babynamewizard site!! Barking mad.
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bobevenson wrote: Christ reigning a thousand years, like the book of Revelation itself, is allegorical.
Ginkgo wrote:Spatio-temporal events can't be allegorical.
bobevenson wrote:You talk dumber than that British bitch.
Bob, this is not very prophetic. When John the Baptist was subject to close questioning in relation to the person coming after him, he DIDN'T say. " You talk dumber than that Roman bitch"
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Ginkgo wrote:
bobevenson wrote: Christ reigning a thousand years, like the book of Revelation itself, is allegorical.
Ginkgo wrote:Spatio-temporal events can't be allegorical.
bobevenson wrote:You talk dumber than that British bitch.
Bob, this is not very prophetic. When John the Baptist was subject to close questioning in relation to the person coming after him, he DIDN'T say. " You talk dumber than that Roman bitch"
When you say spatiotemoral events can't be allegorical, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Anything can be allegorical. In this particular case, the year Revelation was completed (96) plus Iesous in classical Greek gematria (888) plus the 1000 years that Christ reigns after Armageddon, adds up to 1984, when "The Ouzo Prophecy" was completed.
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bobevenson wrote:
Ginkgo wrote:
bobevenson wrote: Christ reigning a thousand years, like the book of Revelation itself, is allegorical.
Ginkgo wrote:Spatio-temporal events can't be allegorical.
bobevenson wrote:You talk dumber than that British bitch.
Bob, this is not very prophetic. When John the Baptist was subject to close questioning in relation to the person coming after him, he DIDN'T say. " You talk dumber than that Roman bitch"
When you say spatiotemoral events can't be allegorical, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Anything can be allegorical. In this particular case, the year Revelation was completed (96) plus Iesous in classical Greek gematria (888) plus the 1000 years that Christ reigns after Armageddon, adds up to 1984, when "The Ouzo Prophecy" was completed.
I can't criticize you ideas in total because I only know bits and pieces. My criticisms are only those that are apparent at the moment. More information from you perspective may well lead to other conclusions on my part.

The arguments for the allegorical perspective in relation to the Book of Revelation suggests that events of the Apocalypse are not tied to specific historical events. From my limited perspective of your work you seem to be saying that the prophecy has been fulfilled. If this is the case then this brings to me your question in relation to spatio-temporal events being allegorical. Yes, you are right. Just about anything can be expressed in allegorical terms. One of the most famous examples is Plato's "Allegory of the Cave".

To cut a very long story short, the basic ideas is that Plato believed that humans spend their entire life in the darkness. Just like a person who lives in a cave and has never seen the outside world. They only ever perceive reality in terms of shadows. If we were to ask, where in the foot-hills of Athens is this cave? The answer is of course that it doesn't actually exist in a physical explanation of time and space- it only exists in the mind of the creator to demonstrate a theory.

On this basis we can say that it has no place in time and space and as such. It is forever enduring so long as humans have the capacity to express and record ideas. Plato's cave existed in the fourth century B.C.E.This is in exactly the same way that it existed during the Renaissance and the same way it now exists in 2013. With a lot of good luck it will endure well into the future.
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Ginkgo wrote:The arguments for the allegorical perspective in relation to the Book of Revelation suggests that events of the Apocalypse are not tied to specific historical events. From my limited perspective of your work you seem to be saying that the prophecy has been fulfilled.
You are correct in that the book of Revelation is not tied to specific historical events. But as suggested by "The Ouzo Prophecy," its message is continuously being fulfilled by the institutional influence of false prophets manifesting the collective evil of the beast.
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