You're rationalizing sweetheart, But I expect nothing less from one that coins or references a phrase such as: 'the meaning of ones words is the response they get,' As if you take them at face value, which is the way any words should be taken, they convey the selfishness, and arrogance of their user, because at face value, they are false, and actually somewhat megalomaniacal.Arising_uk wrote:Why? Because this emoticon is the closest I can find to expressing exasperation at stupidity? What does your purple make you?SpheresOfBalance wrote:(<-YOU'RE A FEMALE)
See next point down.See above. Either way its nice to see your misogynistic and homophobic attitudes colourfully on display.(<-OR YOU'RE GAY, EITHER WAY.)
Only in your mind, I have always KNOWN that females are more 'inclined' to use emoticons, to express their 'emotions' and plenty of them, as naturally they are the more emotional human, it's a fact. And no homophobia here either, I just know that this crap pisses you off, for what ever reason, and I like it!
And yet with your every utterance about me you contradict your own words?NO, YOU DIP SHIT, I'M TALKING OF THIS CRAP. THIS IS ONE OF THE LIES, AS YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY KNOW MY REASONS, YOU DAMNED MORON. HOW DENSE ARE YOU ANYWAY? SERIOUSLY? YOU'RE EITHER ONE DUMB SON OF A BITCH, OR INSANE, TO THINK YOU CAN KNOW ONES REASONS FOR SHUTTING YOUR QUERY DOWN. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE, SO YOUR LITTLE STUPID QUOTE FITS YOUR BILL. OR I SHOULD SAY THAT BELIEF IN YOUR STUPID LITTLE QUOTE, IS WHY YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN READ MINDS. GOD YOU ARE DENSE AND/OR NUTS. I'M NEVER AT A LOSS FOR THOUGHT, NEVER, I JUST SWITCH GEARS BECAUSE OF SOME ABSURD THING YOU'VE SAID, AND REFUSE TO ANSWER WHAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT, BECAUSE THEN I DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR INCLINATION, FOOL. THERE'S NO WAY SOMEONE AS SCREWED UP AS YOU WILL EVER GET ME. I'M WAY TOO COMPLICATED FOR YOUR CONFUSED MIND. YOU THINK THAT WORD CHOICE, AND GRAMMAR ARE INDICATIVE OF WHATS IN MY MIND, WRONG ANSWER. I HAVEN'T REALLY READ OR WRITTEN ANYTHING SINCE THE DAYS OF MY COLLEGE, WHICH HAS NO BEARING ON ONES THINKING, IT JUST MAKES ONE SEVERELY OUT OUT OF PRACTICE, AS TO THE WRITTEN WORD. AN ILLUSION FOR YOU TO STUMBLE UPON.
Ditto fool! and that's the beauty!
Save your paranoia and insecurities for your shrink. Me, I'm just having a chat.
Self projection?
But I have thought about it long and hard and its why my thought is more nuanced than the understanding you have of what my quote means. As I make a distinction between thoughting and thinking and their relationship to meaning and language. So a thought is the ability to reuse, mainly due to memory, the representations that our senses give us, its the ability to combine or juxtapose, images, smells, 'feelings'(essentially touch) and sounds into new combinations devoid from their original cause, essentially the old British Empiricists and Descartes idea of clear and distinct ideas based upon sensation. Thinking, is the use of a preferred representation to 'thought' with and, in the main, its sound in the form of language, i.e. most think by 'hearing' themselves speak in their head, but some prefer images or feelings to do this, either way the result is that the same issues that apply to language communication apply to this way of thinking, i.e. that there is no inherent objective meaning in words, they are arbitrarily chosen signs to represent our thoughts. As such there is no necessary connection between the meaning we intend when we use them and the meaning that is constructed from them by the listener therefore when communicating our meaning its an ongoing process of feedback until agreement is met that at the least both understand what the issue is. So I agree that the meaning of ones thoughts is ones own, its that when one uses language to represent them then its thinking and this involves the meaning that necessarily involves two not one. This also raises another issue and thats that people commonly forget or don't understand that meaning in language is constructed this way and as such when they think to themselves they think they are actually having a thought, and whilst I admit that they are in the sense that the words invoke images, sounds, etc, I think there is a danger in assuming that ones actually thought the matter out. To do this one should then attempt to construct a thought about the meaning to check if the words fit.THROUGH WITH ANYTHING YOU AIM AT ME. ANYONE IN THAT HEAD OF YOURS?, OR SHOULD I ASK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THAT HEAD OF YOURS? AS YOU ONLY LIE AS TO WHAT YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE ONES WORDS MEAN AS A RESULT OF THAT ASININE QUOTE OF OURS. THAT QUOTE IS SOMETHING YOU EITHER MADE UP OR BOUGHT INTO PURELY SO YOU CAN PROJECT BS AT PEOPLE FOR THE SAKE OF APPEASING YOUR EGO, AND THAT OF ARGUMENT FOR ANY DAMN SILLY REASON YOUR TWISTED MIND CAN MUSTER. THIS BELIEF OF YOURS, ALLOWS YOU TO ARGUE WITH YOURSELF. ARE YOU KIDDING ME, THINK ABOUT IT.
YOU ARE THE ONE THAT TRY'S TO PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN SAID, WHICH IS KIND OF LOCO, WHILE IT'S BEEN ME THAT ONLY COMMENTS ON THE MEANING OF YOUR WORDS, AS YOU USE THEM.
I SAY THAT THE MEANING OF WORDS ARE ONLY EVER 'NECESSARILY' IN THE MIND OF THE ONE THAT SPEAKS THOSE WORDS.
WHILE YOU SAY THAT THE MEANING OF ONES WORDS IS IN THE RESPONSE THEY GET.
OR IN OTHER WORDS, 'THAT ONES MEANING IS ONLY EVER IN THE MIND OF THOSE LISTENING.'
LISTEN TO YOURSELF, YOU'RE A FUCKING LOON, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY YOU'RE SO QUICK TO LABEL OTHERS AS ONE. THAT QUOTE WAS BORN OF A SELFISH LUNATIC, OR ONE THAT DIDN'T THINK IT THROUGH.
And so you've made up words in order to create this fantasy, of yours. The problem with your quote is that it's a victim of itself. You or someone has tried to reduce all the above into those few words, as if they can convey such an idea, and they don't It'll only ever be an inside meaning. Those few words can never contain such that you have attributed, and one does such so as to pat oneself on the back, to make them vague so as not to actually convey, such that one can feel superior, through exclusive understanding. Otherwise if one truly cared to actually convey, they'd ensure that meaning was apparent. That is the purpose of words, contrary to at least your belief, to convey ideas, such that one can understand. The words that you or someone has chosen, do not mean anything of the sort, actually they mean something quite different, and seem to feed this need of yours to be PNF's thought police, they are in fact born of selfish intentions, of that, there is no doubt. I have been in the habit to use small words, and many of them, so as to ensure I can convey. For me it is more important to ensure someone understands my meaning, than to think myself clever in creating a cryptic phrase that requires being in the know, then using it to mislead, the resultant, the feeling of superiority, but it's an illusion. There is a very big difference between these two types of people. One cares for others more readily and the other only cares for themselves, always searching for a pat on the back, to such an extent that they ensure it, through such ambiguousness, as they seek to be asked to explain, and in this need of the other seeking clarification, they fool themselves into believing their constructed superiority, is real. There has never been anything said on this forum, that I've seen, that I could not understand. As a matter of fact the reading comprehension part of my entrance exam to college was the highest of all the English section. Because of the plethora of technical manuals I had to read during my 16 years with the US DOD. When I went to college, I was an older student, the oldest in all my classes, in my 30's.
Its because of these thoughts and thinks that I think you must spend a lot of time in confrontation with others when you speak.
Just people like you.
On the whole most of the above is you talking to yourself. I could care less about the format you use as to me as it just displays, to me, your emotional instability. That and your gender misogyny and that you appear to have no free-will as this is the third time you've made such statements. That you don't understand the quote is your loss and no skin of my nose, it also explains to me why, I guess, you often fall into rancour with your interlocutors.YOU'RE A WHACK JOB, SWEETIE.
AND NO, YOU REQUIRE CAPS SO YOU'LL FINALLY GET IT. HOPEFULLY. I'M NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY AND BEAT THIS INFO INTO YOUR PEA SIZED BRAIN. YOU KEEP THIS SILLY GIRLY CRAP UP AND I'LL IGNORE YOUR SILLINESS, INSTEAD VYING FOR A BLANKET STATEMENT, AS TO YOUR ABSURDITY. WHILE THE COMMUNICATION BIT WAS GOOD, IT'S SURELY NOT REFLECTED IN THAT QUOTE OF YOURS. IT WOULD SEEM YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR OWN EDUCATION, AS YOU SPIT OUT SUCH STUPID QUOTES.
During the composition of this message, I noted that Godfree appealed to both of us to cease our bickering, out of respect, something you seemingly know little about, I'll refrain from responding to any future messages you may post that does not contain on topic material.
Sorry Godfree!
