~ I believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor ~

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Wake up, Wiltrack, to the fact that unions are the biggest evil on the face of the Earth!

You have 10 seconds to decide: indefinite incarceration at Guantanamo Bay or life membership in the Screen Actors Guild.

[Arising_uk]

Why don't you try looking up the word "prophecy" sometime, and learn that it is a divinely-inspired utterance.

Whats this 'divinity' you yak about?

[Arising_uk]

... Wake up, Wiltrack, to the fact that unions are the biggest evil on the face of the Earth!

What a ridiculous statement given some of the 'evils' in the world.

[bobevenson]

... Wake up, Wiltrack, to the fact that unions are the biggest evil on the face of the Earth!

What a ridiculous statement given some of the 'evils' in the world.

I guess you believe that failure to properly educate children because of teacher unions is no big deal.

[Arising_uk]

I guess you believe that failure to properly educate children because of teacher unions is no big deal.

You'll have to show me the evidence that children were any better educated before the advent of teachers unions?

[bobevenson]

I guess you believe that failure to properly educate children because of teacher unions is no big deal.

You'll have to show me the evidence that children were any better educated before the advent of teachers unions?

Have you lost your mind??? When teachers are so illiterate they have to hire other people to take their qualification test, and their unions back them up 100% so they can't be fired, how much more evidence do you need???

[mtmynd1]

Have you lost your mind??? When teachers are so illiterate they have to hire other people to take their qualification test, and their unions back them up 100% so they can't be fired, how much more evidence do you need???

bobevenson, where is your proof... your evidence that what you claim here is ubiquitous worldwide, as your words seem to accuse teachers en mass...?

[bobevenson]

Have you lost your mind??? When teachers are so illiterate they have to hire other people to take their qualification test, and their unions back them up 100% so they can't be fired, how much more evidence do you need???

bobevenson, where is your proof... your evidence that what you claim here is ubiquitous worldwide, as your words seem to accuse teachers en mass...?

Don't you read the newspapers? Teacher certification fraud is rampant throughout America. Don't take my word for it, it's all over the Internet. Anybody who supports teacher's unions supports fraudulent education.

[Pluto]

Don't you read the newspapers?

Haven't you realised/internalised yet; that newspapers (the mass media), are agenda setters. You are but a sheep bleating your master's song. Think about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda-setting_theory

[bobevenson]

Don't you read the newspapers?

Haven't you realised/internalised yet; that newspapers (the mass media), are agenda setters. You are but a sheep bleating your master's song. Think about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda-setting_theory

You've got to be the biggest dork on the planet if you don't believe the following article I posted earlier:
Cheating scandal: Feds say teachers hired stand-in to take their certification tests
By Adrian Sainz, The Associated Press

[SpheresOfBalance]

I guess you believe that failure to properly educate children because of teacher unions is no big deal.

You'll have to show me the evidence that children were any better educated before the advent of teachers unions?

Actually, logically, it should do quite the opposite, as better pay and benefits, should attract a better educated, educator, as the more educated may pass a job by, that is lackluster, in terms of their growth/security potential. I mean, along with the love of teaching children, one must also see to their own subsistence. In other words, lower levels beget lower levels, while higher levels beget higher levels, pretty simple actually.

[bobevenson]

I guess you believe that failure to properly educate children because of teacher unions is no big deal.

You'll have to show me the evidence that children were any better educated before the advent of teachers unions?

Actually, logically, it should do quite the opposite, as better pay and benefits, should attract a better educated, educator, as the more educated may pass a job by, that is lackluster, in terms of their growth/security potential. I mean, along with the love of teaching children, one must also see to their own subsistence. In other words, lower levels beget lower levels, while higher levels beget higher levels, pretty simple actually.

What's pretty simple is if education were totally left to the marketplace, private schools in competition with each other would provide the kind of education the public wants at the price it's willing to pay. I doubt if there would be room for unqualified teachers any any salary. As education exists today, unions protect the worst teacheers imaginable, teachers who are dumber than the students they are supposedly trying to teach.

[SpheresOfBalance]

I guess you believe that failure to properly educate children because of teacher unions is no big deal.

You'll have to show me the evidence that children were any better educated before the advent of teachers unions?

Actually, logically, it should do quite the opposite, as better pay and benefits, should attract a better educated, educator, as the more educated may pass a job by, that is lackluster, in terms of their growth/security potential. I mean, along with the love of teaching children, one must also see to their own subsistence. In other words, lower levels beget lower levels, while higher levels beget higher levels, pretty simple actually.

What's pretty simple is if education were totally left to the marketplace, private schools in competition with each other would provide the kind of education the public wants at the price it's willing to pay. I doubt if there would be room for unqualified teachers any any salary. As education exists today, unions protect the worst teacheers imaginable, teachers who are dumber than the students they are supposedly trying to teach.

Not true, union workers that are not cutting the mustard, can be fired, as long as the proper protocols are adhered to. Most use write-ups, that total 3, as in 3 strikes and you're out. I know this because of GE, jet engine department foreman. While it's true, that being late and obvious, witnessed, trouble-making makes for an easy write up, as opposed to poor productivity, one can still, eventually, get rid of a malcontent, as expressed in the quality of their work, it just takes a more creative process.

[Arising_uk]

What's pretty simple is if education were totally left to the marketplace, private schools in competition with each other would provide the kind of education the public wants at the price it's willing to pay. I doubt if there would be room for unqualified teachers any any salary. As education exists today, unions protect the worst teacheers imaginable, teachers who are dumber than the students they are supposedly trying to teach.

You've obviously not read Tom Browns Schooldays.

[bobevenson]

What's pretty simple is if education were totally left to the marketplace, private schools in competition with each other would provide the kind of education the public wants at the price it's willing to pay. I doubt if there would be room for unqualified teachers any any salary. As education exists today, unions protect the worst teacheers imaginable, teachers who are dumber than the students they are supposedly trying to teach.

You've obviously not read Tom Browns Schooldays.

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