A Nobel Prize for Literature & Peace, But Not Math?

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A Nobel Prize for Literature & Peace, But Not Math?

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What a scam.
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You can get for math if your math contributes to any practical science, from physics to medicine to economics. The name doesn't say it all.
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The Voice of Time wrote:You can get for math if your math contributes to any practical science, from physics to medicine to economics. The name doesn't say it all.
Please, mathematics is involved in all sciences, but Einstein didn't the prize for mathematics, and he didn't get it for anything "practical."
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The Voice of Time wrote:You can get for math if your math contributes to any practical science, from physics to medicine to economics. The name doesn't say it all.
Please, mathematics is involved in all sciences, but Einstein didn't the prize for mathematics, and he didn't get it for anything "practical."
It's hard to remove mathematics from his physics. People say you have to solve his equations yourself to really understand some of what he is talking about. I'd say you don't have any idea what you are talking about.

As for practical, I meant in opposition to theoretical. Something practised in the world. Einstein's math is highly practical, and I've even heard repeatedly it has applications in technology, though I dunno what exactly, but the point is that saying that his math is practical means it describes the world about and around us, it doesn't have to have anything do with everyday uses of the word "practical".

Also, professionally speaking Einstein wasn't a mathematician, he was as pure a physicist as far as you can get it (and a reputed half hobby/half professional philosopher as well). Doing math doesn't make you are mathematician in a professional sense, professional mathematicians are wrestlers of logic when they act as mathematicians and not describers of natural reality.
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The Voice of Time wrote:Einstein's math is highly practical.
Right, E=MC2 was so practical that virtually nobody knew what he was even talking about. Mathematicians make important, but purely mathematical discoveries that benefit all the sciences, and they have no chance of ever getting a Nobel prize. Again, what a scam. Nobel should have taken his dynamite and blown his brains out!
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For your own sake I hope you are not suggesting Einstein's contribution in any way can be summed up by an aid equation (and I was not referring to that equation, but quite a lot more complex ones). If you really are suggesting it, then your intellectual capacities are comparative to a little child, and you should start doing some reading.
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The Voice of Time wrote:For your own sake I hope you are not suggesting Einstein's contribution in any way can be summed up by an aid equation (and I was not referring to that equation, but quite a lot more complex ones). If you really are suggesting it, then your intellectual capacities are comparative to a little child, and you should start doing some reading.
My friend, E=MC2 is the most important mathematical equation ever conceived. Its simplicity and elegance has has no equal, and for you to dismiss it in any way shows your utter ignorance and contempt for Einstein's many contributions to the understanding of the universe.
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Ignorance and contempt my ass. You're the one who brings up such a tiny little thing (however influential it was) when Einstein has done so much more, and try to make a point about it.
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The Voice of Time wrote:Ignorance and contempt my ass. You're the one who brings up such a tiny little thing (however influential it was) when Einstein has done so much more, and try to make a point about it.
Point to any other Einstein theory or mathematical equation that has had the practical effect of E=MC2.
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Not part of my point. My point is not about the size of effect, but about the size of work. It's like summarizing Alfred Nobel as the inventor of dynamite just because that happens to have been a very important part of his overall contributions, when in truth, Alfred Nobel was extremely productive and produced enormous amounts of scientific results few times matched in history.
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The Voice of Time wrote:Not part of my point. My point is not about the size of effect, but about the size of work. It's like summarizing Alfred Nobel as the inventor of dynamite just because that happens to have been a very important part of his overall contributions, when in truth, Alfred Nobel was extremely productive and produced enormous amounts of scientific results few times matched in history.
Oh, I get it, you're saying that a shitload of itsy-bitsy things is equal to E=MC2.
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No. That the equation is a tiny piece of his actual amount of work.

The equation is not a point in the other works of Einstein, it is an aid to the point, a means to an end, like his relativity theories, they are ends in and of themselves, the equation may have been a mean in and of itself when it was first conceived, but his other works weren't to prove that equation, as far as I know, the equation was an axiom, an assumption, to make other works complete.
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The Voice of Time wrote:No. That the equation is a tiny piece of his actual amount of work.
That's like saying the diamond is a tiny piece of the ring.
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But it is.
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