Fired Gay TV Reporter and Justice

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Was the reporter's firing justified?

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artisticsolution wrote:No, that is your delusional interpretation of what I have said. Now show me a direct quote of mine that says those exact words.
Why do you ask me to waste time on this?
It is my opinion that irrationality in humans is a form of mental illness because it can be cured. Rational thinking should be the ultimate goal for humanity.
Ultimate goal sounds very pushy to me. In fact, it sounds like the goal which should have precedence before any other goal ^^

Dictionary (http://onelook.com/?w=ultimate&ls=a): 1) as good or as bad as possible, 2) used about something that is better, more extreme, or more important than all others
artisticsolution wrote:You act as if there is a cure for mental illness out there somewhere and I advocate forcing it on all.
...is a form of mental illness because it can be cured...
So how can something for which there is no cure for be cured?
artisticsolution wrote:There is no such thing and even if there was I would no more make someone take the cure than I would make them take a pill to save their life.
I hope in the future there will be a pill designed that will promote clarity of thought. I also hope no one makes us take it...because that too would be irrational. If such a pill is ever designed then it should be available. but not mandatory...unless it is used as a replacement for a criminal punishment, i.e. in lieu of going to prison
I also find it important to note there that at least from my point of view I value other human beings life and would make them take the pill to save their life given an acute emergency. I'm not making them take a pill however to "boost evolutionary progress" (and yes those are my own words but that's how you sound like) or some other situation which has no relevance to their immediate state of being alive, and if you would like me save a persons life even against their own will in that acute situation then you would also "make someone take the cure than I would make them take a pill to save their life", in accordance with your own logic, which you so neatly displayed in the quote after the quote right above this text, you would make everybody take the pill if you cared to make them live in the acute situation, unless of course you would let them die in that acute situation if they refused it. So I just assume for now that you would save their lives, and in so doing followingly make anybody who you would also save the lives of take the pill even if they weren't in an acute emergency demanding it.
artisticsolution wrote:If they don't want to take a future cure for human irrational thought..then so be it...suffer in silence then. However, it has been my observation that people don't like to suffer....and will do anything to relieve symptoms of suffering...i.e I believe most will take the cure.
Big question remains how far you would go about advocating it if you were in absolute power. Voluntarism can be a very tricky concept.
artisticsolution wrote:I treat people at least better than you, as I would not take advantage of someone while fooling myself I was being kind through pity.
I already said I did not do it out of pity, I did it because I wanted to and it was sweet.
artisticsolution wrote:This is what I mean by I can diagnose problems better than most. My wants and desires would not take precedence over my actions if it meant I might possibly cause harm to another individual.
And yet you go very far in trying to make me feel ashamed of having sex with someone who wanted to have sex with me.
artisticsolution wrote:What's more is I would not have the audacity to aesthetically (shallowly) change the reality of what I did by spinning some sort of sick justification that I was actually being the hero
Where does this come from? What makes you come to thoughts like this?
artisticsolution wrote:...coming to the poor horny mentally ill girl's rescue. :roll:
I don't think of it like that. I don't feel any immediate pity for her, only a general one, I didn't come to her rescue. She was perfectly well in her senses at the time. I'm starting to get very infuriated here, this is getting very personal, I know this girl very well and you are being very mean and ugly to her treating her as if she's incapable of making her own choices or that she's helpless and that her perfectly human desires and needs are somewhat delusions of her that doesn't make her in her right mind to go on her own impulses. I tell you only once, I'm gonna report you if you mention her again! This is real shitty of you, and I won't take it.
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Re: Fired Gay TV Reporter and Justice

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artisticsolution wrote:No, that is your delusional interpretation of what I have said. Now show me a direct quote of mine that says those exact words.
VOT:Why do you ask me to waste time on this?

AS: Because you are deliberately being dishonest about what I have said by taking my quotes out of context and/or add your own twisted meaning. You can't find any direct quotes of mine to prove your slander of my character so don't waste your time. But then don't deliberately lie and say this is what I meant if I have said no such thing. Either put up or shut up.
It is my opinion that irrationality in humans is a form of mental illness because it can be cured. Rational thinking should be the ultimate goal for humanity.
VOT:Ultimate goal sounds very pushy to me. In fact, it sounds like the goal which should have precedence before any other goal ^^

AS: Oh...you're right...forgive me...the ultimate goal for humanity should be irrationality. :roll: Oh wait...we already have that! No need for science to raise a finger! Are you fucking kidding me? Why don't you crawl back into your cave....10,000 B.C. is calling... they want their club and fur pelt back! I am just asking you to extend your brain for one teensy minute...If I said the ultimate goal for humanity should be progress...would you flip out as well? The truth is, science has done little research on the brain. We really don't know that much...but I assume we will...simply because it's what we do. We find out stuff about stuff. Now if we find out that there is a way to cure irrationality....do you really think most of us would not want to be cured? Do you honestly think most of us would choose to be irrational vs. rational? I would take the cure myself! I would not make you take the cure....but I would not pay heed to your judgment either.

But that is all in the future...Let's talk about right now...Most people believe an education is a great thing....it makes us more rational. It makes us more intelligent because we are able to reason better. Suppose someone came along and said to you, "Education should be the ultimate goal for humanity" Would you say, "Ultimate goal sounds very pushy to me. In fact, it sounds like the goal which should have precedence before any other goal "

Yet, a better education for humanity would probably help to fix alot of other problems...such as hunger, famine, suffering, climate control, over population, the economy, etc. So do you see a better world emerging from rational thinking vs. irrational thinking?

And then which is more important....you whining about and idea being pushy...or actually rolling up our sleeves to come to a better solution for the world. I would suggest you get your priorities in order.
artisticsolution wrote:You act as if there is a cure for mental illness out there somewhere and I advocate forcing it on all.
...is a form of mental illness because it can be cured...
VOT: So how can something for which there is no cure for be cured?

AS: The 2 quote above are taken out of context.

The first quote speaks of possible future cures if science continues it studies on the human brain and finds a cure through dna repair or better medication or possibly one that has not yet been thought of.

The second quote speaks of the cures for irrational behavior that we employee today...education, psychotherapy, behavioral therapy, medications, etc.



artisticsolution wrote:There is no such thing and even if there was I would no more make someone take the cure than I would make them take a pill to save their life.
I hope in the future there will be a pill designed that will promote clarity of thought. I also hope no one makes us take it...because that too would be irrational. If such a pill is ever designed then it should be available. but not mandatory...unless it is used as a replacement for a criminal punishment, i.e. in lieu of going to prison
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VOT:I also find it important to note there that at least from my point of view I value other human beings life and would make them take the pill to save their life given an acute emergency. I'm not making them take a pill however to "boost evolutionary progress" (and yes those are my own words but that's how you sound like) or some other situation which has no relevance to their immediate state of being alive, and if you would like me save a persons life even against their own will in that acute situation then you would also "make someone take the cure than I would make them take a pill to save their life", in accordance with your own logic, which you so neatly displayed in the quote after the quote right above this text, you would make everybody take the pill if you cared to make them live in the acute situation, unless of course you would let them die in that acute situation if they refused it. So I just assume for now that you would save their lives, and in so doing followingly make anybody who you would also save the lives of take the pill even if they weren't in an acute emergency demanding it.

AS: If someone does not wish to live, I would not force them to. I think it is cruel and inhumane. That doesn't mean that I am not for counselling or perhaps in the future there will be a way to have a trial run of a cure in order to see if one likes being rational or decides they like being irrational. I don't have anything against irrationality per se...if it cause no harm. It's when it causes harm to other lives when I see it as a problem. So if there was someday a cure for irrationality...and someone did not want to take it...and they did not harm others...then I see no reason they should do what everyone else does.

VOT:Big question remains how far you would go about advocating it if you were in absolute power. Voluntarism can be a very tricky concept.

AS: But you can be suspicious of everyone in this manner. What does it matter when you will never know how a person in absolute power will behave. It is your shallow thinking again...aesthetic key words set you off on a tangent and you forget to think.

VOT:And yet you go very far in trying to make me feel ashamed of having sex with someone who wanted to have sex with me.

AS: Grow up....I can't make you feel anything. That's all you!

VOT: I'm gonna report you if you mention her again!

AS: Then report me...You are the one who brought it up...Your sexual relationships have no place in this forum. It seems to me you want bragging rights to your conquests. If you have the right to bring her up...I have the right to give my opinion of the situation. How sexist of you to want the privilege of making me hear about your conquests and not allowing me the privilege to my opinion about said conquest!

If you don't want me to tell you what I think the don't tell me about your sexcapades!
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Re: Fired Gay TV Reporter and Justice

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I'm off of this conversation, I'm reporting you. You have the right to comment, but what you did was way beyond anything acceptable, it was simply a perversion of something I simply mentioned and where your only intent could be to make me feel bad for no relevant reason. You appear to be on a target for vengeance, and I'm not falling that low.
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