When (and how) something (or someone) is "good."

Should you think about your duty, or about the consequences of your actions? Or should you concentrate on becoming a good person?

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Hjarloprillar wrote:you imagine everyone thinks like you
Far from it. I've always been very conscious that I think different from other people. It's my simultaneous strength and weakness.
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Hjarloprillar wrote:"and how you behave as a body moving about and doing things"
hahahahaa
your a sick boy.
I did not mean anything dirty or sexual. I meant that what we see when we see each other are bodies, and those bodies do things, whatever it is, pick up items or run or take up space or occupy facilities etc. Although we interact a lot with minds, we interact even more with bodies and their influences on situations and environments, and when I say we love bodies I'm not referring to sexuality, but to how the compositions and uses of bodies in everyday-life is to hindrance or betterment of us, to delight or to bother. Weight, smell, size, normality-versus-abnormality, healthiness, and so on... are not just, or even have to be, sexual qualities, but has a lot to say for the atmosphere in our day-to-day following our own requirements and preferences. Even if I don't want to have sex with every woman I meet, I would love for them all to smell good still, as an example.
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reasonvemotion wrote:Tesla quit brow beating. You know nothing. You and your child still have a long way to go.

I think it very unwise to put all your hopes and dreams into your child.

There comes a time when you will have to let go and allow them to live their own lives.

Is it a purpose of man to make a child, to ensure he is taken care of in his old age?


If that is so many will be disappointed.
The point is: our children will grow up to rule us all. what will they do? I dunno. but I know they cannot turn back time. they will receive the world as we gave it to them, and if we care about them, we will try to hand them more than an impossible to reverse global warming trend. Can you hear me now?
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Hjarloprillar wrote:"And yet you'd die for your descendents, is that not an emotional response?"

No.. It is rational. Causality.
Don't get me wrong, I understand what you say. I often tell young men that seeing their baby is a "Ah! Thats the point." moment and a great, and in my case unexpected, release it was. I'm looking forward, hopefully, to the grandad moment as well. I'm just interested in clarifying the nuances. As rationally, if you believe immortality is obtained this way, you'd have spread your seed and had loads of kids as there's no guarantee with eggs all in one basket.
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Tesla wrote:... we will try to hand them more than an impossible to reverse global warming trend. Can you hear me now?
I agree we should try to hand over a better planet and we shouldn't exacerbate this global warming trend but we're at the end of an inter-glacial and its going to get hotter regardless, so maybe we should leave them with some science and technologies that can live with it?
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Agree
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Arising_uk wrote:
Tesla wrote:... we will try to hand them more than an impossible to reverse global warming trend. Can you hear me now?
I agree we should try to hand over a better planet and we shouldn't exacerbate this global warming trend but we're at the end of an inter-glacial and its going to get hotter regardless, so maybe we should leave them with some science and technologies that can live with it?
That's faulty thinking. Science and technology has and will continue to be left and built upon regardless. But for all the science, the species as a whole is choosing to be wasteful and use polluting energies for the sake of profit, when clearly with the billions in profit; there could be less profit, more wealth distribution, and clean energy.

The problem is not that we do not have the science. The problem is the goal. The goal is profit for corporations, not profit for populations or the upwards species evolution.

That is why I keep asking people "what is most important?" because with all my wisdom, species evolution is more important than living high and destroying the planet and the species. A repeat of history’s greatest past societies, which with no ability to plan, or faulty planning, have all become archeological mysteries.

How the species evolves is largely in our hands. What we eat, what we teach, what we build, and what we destroy.

I do not particularly care for terms like selfishness, or stupidity, I prefer to speak in terms of what is wise. We can all be foolish. But we can all choose the wiser path; if we can determine it. Is a selfish person wise or foolish? Time tells the tale. But in the world events, in which we all effect each other: even the wiser will eat the bread of the foolish if the foolish choice is the decision made.
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Aspergers seems in some ways to be similar to narcissism.

Masking certain behaviors, a skill when wanting to blend in, “when it acts like a duck and quacks like a duck…it is a duck" and the learned emotional responses.

How difficult is it for a woman to give him his aloneness that Asperger’s demands without feeling rejected and ignored and assume the role of caregiver?

It would be a lonely existence for her.

Most likely friendship would be more valuable than marriage, at least that way a person would not feel deprived in an emotional sense.

I dunno, just thinking out loud.

None of the above is intended to trivialize the very real difficulties a person has when coping with the symptons of Aspergers, far from it. The thought occurred to me of how the "partner" in the relationship would also cope.

No offence intended, dear Prill.

I always want to know the "ins and outs" of a duck's bum.
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Wasn't the main character in the movie "Salmon Fishing in the Yemen" an Asperger's? I think he was. It was interesting movie to watch, though some people didn't like it. Anywho, it was my kind of movie, it wasn't very "exciting", a mostly calm movie, but it was interesting in the way things can be interesting without having a lot of action. Imdb rating 6.8 (not too bad).
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no. he was faking it!
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homegrown wrote:no. he was faking it!
the character was faking it? I never realized that, have I missed a part of it? At what time in the movie do they reveal he's not really an Asperger's?
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The Voice of Time wrote:Wasn't the main character in the movie "Salmon Fishing in the Yemen" an Asperger's? I think he was. It was interesting movie to watch, though some people didn't like it. Anywho, it was my kind of movie, it wasn't very "exciting", a mostly calm movie, but it was interesting in the way things can be interesting without having a lot of action. Imdb rating 6.8 (not too bad).

VoT

i understand. one of those flicks you pass by cause you were in hurry for Action.
Now that i know it has aspie in it i will rent.
am according to 'experts'. an aspie.
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If on tv a disaster in another land killed 250,000, how would you feel?\
'nothimg'


And why should i. In same time framre natural selection has killed 20 times this.. so i tack is no issue on to narural selection.
survival of fittest.
irs all about power. if 250k Americans died it would be the failing of the technocracy and billioms would be spent.
If it happened in india it's [they breed like flies] who cares.

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Remember what TVoT said about his mother, no wonder he cannot see children as we do, as his mother apparently did not. Once he has children, if ever, he may either be like his mother and still not see it, or he may be able to construct the idea, of what he missed in his mother, and apply it to his relationship with his children. But at this point remember that he has never witnessed it first hand, or so it would seem, from what he's said.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Remember what TVoT said about his mother, no wonder he cannot see children as we do, as his mother apparently did not. Once he has children, if ever, he may either be like his mother and still not see it, or he may be able to construct the idea, of what he missed in his mother, and apply it to his relationship with his children. But at this point remember that he has never witnessed it first hand, or so it would seem, from what he's said.
Who are you answering in this one?
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Hjarloprillar wrote: One question from a face to face.
If on tv a disaster in another land killed 250,000, how would you feel?\
'nothimg'


And why should i. In same time framre natural selection has killed 20 times this.. so i tack is no issue on to narural selection.
survival of fittest.
irs all about power. if 250k Americans died it would be the failing of the technocracy and billioms would be spent.
If it happened in india it's [they breed like flies] who cares.

Prill
What makes you ask me this? I find that amount of deaths very tragic, but I wouldn't get emotional before a situation appeared that made emotional response natural.

If for instance people wanted to send aid to that country, I might get emotional and cry out for aid or more aid. But emotions need a situation to play out in, and we have different situations in which we play them out in.
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