When (and how) something (or someone) is "good."

[The Voice of Time]

Even if I had something to pass on after my death, it didn't have to have anything to do with what I find the most important. It just important at that time, because it may be the only thing I have left to worry about. But right now, I may give a damn about that.

[The Voice of Time]

I don't think self-pleasure is necessarily the most important thing (especially not in general). It may merely be a condition for another thing, and so a necessary means to an end.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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[The Voice of Time]

Didn't know the character from Family Guy was left-handed ^^

[Bill Wiltrack]

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...yeah, I was searching for things that you two have in common. How'd I do?




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[The Voice of Time]

I'm right handed. But I am stronger in my right hand

[SpheresOfBalance]

Tesla and Spheres of Balance, have attempted to defines "good" by employing concepts such as "important" or "benefit" - both very vague ideas ...as each noted regarding the other's definition. So what does "benefit" mean? Then we chase around the dictionary, and eventually use the word "good" to explain "benefit." Circular reasoning.

Incorrect!
benefit
ben·e·fit
[ben-uh-fit] noun, verb, ben·e·fit·ed or ben·e·fit·ted, ben·e·fit·ing or ben·e·fit·ting.
noun
1. something that is advantageous or good; an advantage: He explained the benefits of public ownership of the postal system.
--Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2013.--
Please keep reading for elaboration.

Anyone that sees circular logic contained in a dictionary, is, well... kind of dumb. Synonyms, yes! Circular reasoning, no! The truth is clearly, that we have various similar words so as to slightly modify a root word to either be more or less inclusive of various subtitles. As the root, 'Good' dates to before 900AD, Benefit to around 1350-1400AD and finally, Advantageous, which is more closely related to 'benefit' than 'good,' to around 1590-1600AD. Would you really want a 9th century doctor to treat you, or one from the 21st century?

Clearly, I see that, as to mans needs, good is more antiquated, an out of date concept, while 'benefit' is more current. As 'Benefit,' more readily, calls into question, requirements and affects. When you analyze good, or more correctly, benefit, between two entities, one must have a mediator, as no one entity is more important than the next, and this is where the "Golden Rule (GR)" or my "Fundamental Social Axiom (FSA)" comes into play. The FSA/GR ensures that benefits (good) are that of equality for all, such that if a 'piece of chalk' is deemed bad due to adverse affects, that which does not 'benefit' the entire organism (Planet Earth, our biosphere) then it is eliminated, as no man made 'want' (not need) is necessarily beneficial. One man or corporation might see chalk as good, but is it beneficial?

The only reason some men cling to such an archaic concept as good, is because it is "not" obviously calling into question that of needs and affects, thus, through the smoke screen of this 'good' web, that man has spun, (see a thesaurus on good, particularly the visual version) allows them to actually be quite the opposite, i.e., bad. The bigger and more dense a web of any one words meaning becomes, the more easy it is to hide in it's shadows. And 'good' seems to be the root of much, much more.

It's not that I saw benefit as a proof/qualifier of good, but rather as it's replacement.

...I see Good quite differently. I define good as...

[Tesla]

I don't think self-pleasure is necessarily the most important thing (especially not in general). It may merely be a condition for another thing, and so a necessary means to an end.

Do you have children? if yes, how do they relate in order of importance of things? I'm a bit at a loss with you because our philosophies are so radically different.

[Hjarloprillar]

I don't think self-pleasure is necessarily the most important thing (especially not in general). It may merely be a condition for another thing, and so a necessary means to an end.

Do you have children? if yes, how do they relate in order of importance of things? I'm a bit at a loss with you because our philosophies are so radically different.

I have a daughter and gran daughter.. It changes everything.

Beware old men.. we shoot first. And ask questions later

[The Voice of Time]

I don't think self-pleasure is necessarily the most important thing (especially not in general). It may merely be a condition for another thing, and so a necessary means to an end.

Do you have children? if yes, how do they relate in order of importance of things? I'm a bit at a loss with you because our philosophies are so radically different.

No, I don't, but I once felt obligated in a semi-parental way towards some kids I felt sorry for and which often came to me for what I could only call emotional relief (them being victims of my mother's dominative and at times careless nature).

I don't know what "relate in order of importance of things" mean, so you'll have to explain that sentence.

[Hjarloprillar]

(them being victims of my mother's dominative and at times careless nature).

I said you were mommies boy.. Dont worry my father was Reinhard Heydrich

[The Voice of Time]

(them being victims of my mother's dominative and at times careless nature).

I said you were mommies boy.. Dont worry my father was Reinhard Heydrich

I'm gonna ignore that as best I can.

[Hjarloprillar]

(them being victims of my mother's dominative and at times careless nature).

I said you were mommies boy.. Dont worry my father was Reinhard Heydrich

I'm gonna ignore that as best I can.

why? Fear?

That he did not die in '42.
That he made a subcult . And sired a son in 50's.

[The Voice of Time]

No, that you call me a mommies boy. I cannot relate to that and what I know of its meaning, so I'll try to ignore it.

[Hjarloprillar]

No, that you call me a mommies boy. I cannot relate to that and what I know of its meaning, so I'll try to ignore it.

(them being victims of my mother's dominative and at times careless nature).

why even mention your mother.?
you know why

k i'll leave off.. be well