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reasonvemotion wrote:
So...so stop what?
What do you want me to stop?

It is time to get some control and stop, now.
What I am trying to say, (rather badly), there are times for pictures, but there are also times for words, without pictures. Sometimes just pictures are not helpful and I will give an example. This was written by Spheres, I hope he doesnt object to me using it, it just seemed very appropriate for what I am trying to explain.
To this 'argument' of yours, I would counter: 'Who' is to say when and if pictures are or are not required? 'Who?' The point being that, as far as I know, no one has told 'you' how to respond, whether 'badly' or not, and you would have every right to not take heed, as they TELL you what to do, as if you are their underling, it's your choice, as 'you' are the contributor, it is for 'you' to decide how to make 'your point.' It is for 'others' to 'understand,' however that's accomplished, this is not to say that 'I' don't 'believe' that one should always strive to be as clear as possible, but even though I believe this, I do not tell them how they should, as I understand that there is no necessary accounting of the conveyance of mind, I merely correct their words, as I see fit, via my argument, if they see that their words were ineffectual in accurate conveyance, and if they care to do otherwise, they shall learn to change their methodology on their own.

As far as you using any words of mine to make any point, either against me or otherwise, I could care less, mainly because I like you, whether we've argued or not, but even if I didn't like you, and you were my worst enemy, still I would only take it as an opportunity to set your usage straight, if I felt you misunderstood, if otherwise, I'd just let it go. As I see it as my job to ensure clarification, or not.

RE, I would hope that you'd never fear me, in any way shape or form. I am forever your friend, apparently in my mind alone, but that's OK. Plus I often share my 'battles' of wit, here on PNF with my wife. If she thought I was being unfair, she'd probably make me pay, one way or another.

But Van Der Beek's facial expression is that of condescension/sarcasm. Is that in fact what you mean to convey?

I would love more verbal input from you. Perhaps you can reverse the current trend, more words less pictures, as it stands there are more pictures less words.
Geez Bill, it seems however I put it, it comes out wrong. LOL I can see a picture looming LOL. U no wot, I get you. Forget everything I have said.

except

I still would like (in words) the meaning of the post I enquired about, please.
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.............Plus I often share my 'battles' of wit, here on PNF with my wife. If she thought I was being unfair, she'd probably make me pay, one way or another.
So what you advocate here, freedom of speech, doesnt apply for you at home.

I see.

LOL.
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reasonvemotion wrote:
.............Plus I often share my 'battles' of wit, here on PNF with my wife. If she thought I was being unfair, she'd probably make me pay, one way or another.
So what you advocate here, freedom of speech, doesnt apply for you at home.

I see.

LOL.
No, I'm free to speak...

But...

So is she...

Or maybe something otherwise!

:lol:
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I get the picture.
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reasonvemotion wrote:I get the picture.
Yes I could tell, it was just for the laughter that I replied. ;-)
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We can survive a few days without food & water.


We can last a few minutes without oxygen.


We can't last one moment without impressions.



Words, letters are images. Sentences as well are impressions.


Images convey meaning in a way the written word cannot.



So much of Philosophy is about meaning.



Please don't think that because we use words we understand each other. We don't.




Please welcome the onset of GIFs & images here at the forum.





The fact that the images I have used creates in you the feeling of out of control may be a good thing...for we are in control of so very little...


But as far as my posts are concerned, I have never been in so much control of what I am posting as I am now.


I LOVE the fact that I am not the creator of the GIFs & images I use. It give me a sense of empathy or the accident, discovery, control type of art.


When you think about it you nor I have created the letters or words, or context that we use.







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I may have mentioned before, we live in a multidimensional continuum.


Each of us has our place.


As well it should be.



Philosophically, perhaps the freedom of expression should be extended to include the internet also.




How do you like the sound of - reason+emotion...?






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Yes I could tell, it was just for the laughter that I replied.
I knew that too :mrgreen:
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Words, letters are images.

Public images can be opinions about a person that may not be what they really are.

Sentences as well are impressions.

False impressions can be confounding.

Nothing in our universe is quite what it seems.
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:We can survive a few days without food & water. ...
:roll: More 'facts' from the impressionistic. Maybe fat America thinks this but, dependent upon conditions, we can survive without food for about two months is the experts opinion and in certain cases it can be much longer. Water is a different, again depending upon conditions, it's about 3-5 days but again there have been extreme examples of up to 24 days.
We can last a few minutes without oxygen.
True.
We can't last one moment without impressions.
If you mean images, how do blind people do it?
Words, letters are images. Sentences as well are impressions.
Images of what? Impressions of what?
Images convey meaning in a way the written word cannot.
True but can be very imprecise, hence the artist never quite knows what meaning the viewer takes away unless they ask them. Whereas voice, language and words allow for the process of communication.
So much of Philosophy is about meaning.

Please don't think that because we use words we understand each other. We don't.
This applies doubly to images. but if you understand how you thought and think and how symbolism relates to such things and communication then we can understand each other with a little effort.
Please welcome the onset of GIFs & images here at the forum. ...
Why? Because you find it easier to avoid questions this way?
The fact that the images I have used creates in you the feeling of out of control may be a good thing...for we are in control of so very little...
Maybe but we can be in control of our thoughts and how we express them.
But as far as my posts are concerned, I have never been in so much control of what I am posting as I am now.
I LOVE the fact that I am not the creator of the GIFs & images I use. It give me a sense of empathy or the accident, discovery, control type of art.
What the hell is "... the accident, discovery, control type of art."?

Do you pay close attention to copyright issues? Pay the artist where appropriate?
When you think about it you nor I have created the letters or words, or context that we use.
Maybe not the letters, nor the words but the context is ours, as is the use such things are put to in expressing our thoughts.
This is a good example of the misunderstanding images can produce. So your recent images appear to have a theme, arses and inserting things into anuses. Now I don't think theres probably anything to it but but a Freudian would say, "Zo! Zis is very interestink!"
I may have mentioned before, we live in a multidimensional continuum.
You have! And so far appear to be unwilling to say what this means? As we appear to live in three dimensions.
Each of us has our place.

As well it should be.
Deeeeep...pass the bong.
Philosophically, perhaps the freedom of expression should be extended to include the internet also.
I think you mean the World Wide Web, as the Internet is a whole 'nother game.

Some questions;

What do you mean by "the freedom of expression should be extended to include the internet"? Who would be doing this extending? Why do you think it isn't already?
How do you like the sound of - reason+emotion...?[/size]
Sounds okay, but I think it more sensible to think of the emotions as an integral part of reasoning, i.e. of reason being the integration of feelings as being a part of ones thoughts rather than an add-on.
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You think theres a difference between "plus", "+" and "add"?

I think you a product of this American education system that your fellow Yank rails about.
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reasonandemotion -- has a ring to it.





Where is she?




Git back in here girl!



Time to make a decision.






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Ever going to answer a philosophical question about your words?

Explain what you actually mean?

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What Would You Like to Know?




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Believe me I will answer anything. I am honored that you would look up to me.













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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.What Would You Like to Know?

Believe me I will answer anything. I am honored that you would look up to me.[/size]
What do you mean by "multidimensional" and "continuum" in "multidimensional continuum"?

What do you mean by "multidimensional continuum"?

What do you mean by "ego"?

What are words images of?

What are letters images of?

What are sentences impressions of?

What the hell is "... the accident, discovery, control type of art."?

Do you pay close attention to copyright issues? Pay the artist where appropriate?

What do you mean by "the freedom of expression should be extended to include the internet"?

Who would be doing this extending?

Why do you think it isn't already?

Do you know how the Bible was constructed?

Given you think Socrates such a respected philosopher have you actually read Plato upon Socrates?

What interpretation do you put on,
"boobs or I move him closer"
"no boobs"
sorry I'm doing it"?

What do you mean by "real philosophy"?

Tell me what you think philosophy 'really' is?

Tell me what you think the product should be?

What do you think this goal is?

etc, etc, etc...
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