Tomorrow New York City Bans Large Soft Drinks

[bobevenson]

United States

For more details on this topic, see United States open container laws.
Drinking in public is illegal in almost all jurisdictions in the United States, with this ban usually extending to include drinking within a moving car (related to drunk driving laws).

Laws against drinking in public are known as open container laws, as the presence of an open container of alcohol is seen as evidence of drinking in public and is far easier to witness and prove than the act of drinking.

Though in some places and circumstances it is accepted, such as in New Orleans or Las Vegas, at some college campuses, or around sporting events – notably at a tailgate party – or when the container is inside a bag, traditionally a brown paper bag.[citation needed]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking ... #section_2

Under my regime, all open-container laws would be immediately abolished.

[The Voice of Time]

Under my regime, all open-container laws would be immediately abolished.

Then I'm glad I'm not under your regime. I prefer it when people who easily fall prey to alcohol aren't constantly talking from a drunk state of mind.

[bobevenson]

Under my regime, all open-container laws would be immediately abolished.

Then I'm glad I'm not under your regime. I prefer it when people who easily fall prey to alcohol aren't constantly talking from a drunk state of mind.

You are, of course, welcome to stay in your shackled environment that my grandparents escaped from so many years ago. Anyway, on what basis do you equate open containers with constantly talking from a drunken state of mind? Totally illogical, my friend.

[The Voice of Time]

You reworded my sentence to fit your needs Bob. I said "people who easily fall prey to alcohol", those potential or already existing alcoholics.

[bobevenson]

You reworded my sentence to fit your needs Bob. I said "people who easily fall prey to alcohol", those potential or already existing alcoholics.

Open-container laws don't stop potential or already existing alcoholics from constantly talking from a drunk state of mind. They do stop normal citizens from enjoying themselves.

[The Voice of Time]

Open-container laws don't stop potential or already existing alcoholics from constantly talking from a drunk state of mind. They do stop normal citizens from enjoying themselves.

Wrong, it does stop them, because it discourages them. But I'd also like to include other people talking from drunk states of mind, and who because of it will do bad things. It's unrealistic to think that people normally have so much control over themselves that they will not abuse alcohol when it's freely available anywhere, and not just abuse against themselves, but also by destroying their senses before interacting with others and therefore do bad things against others.

It's natural for people to fill their misery with more misery, and the easier available you give them that misery, the easier they will go down that path, and ruin for everybody else around them in the doing.

[bobevenson]

Open-container laws don't stop potential or already existing alcoholics from constantly talking from a drunk state of mind. They do stop normal citizens from enjoying themselves.

Wrong, it does stop them, because it discourages them. But I'd also like to include other people talking from drunk states of mind, and who because of it will do bad things. It's unrealistic to think that people normally have so much control over themselves that they will not abuse alcohol when it's freely available anywhere, and not just abuse against themselves, but also by destroying their senses before interacting with others and therefore do bad things against others.
It's natural for people to fill their misery with more misery, and the easier available you give them that misery, the easier they will go down that path, and ruin for everybody else around them in the doing.

Unfortunately, you want to penalize society at large for problems that relatively few people have. Anyway, what do you want, a nanny government that takes you by the hand and guides you through life? I wouldn't ask a government worker for the time of day for fear of getting the wrong answer!

[The Voice of Time]

Unfortunately, you want to penalize society at large for problems that relatively few people have. Anyway, what do you want, a nanny government that takes you by the hand and guides you through life? I wouldn't ask a government worker for the time of day for fear of getting the wrong answer!

Politics is about finding solutions. You don't have solutions Bob, you just have complaints. That's why you should never be in politics.

[bobevenson]

Unfortunately, you want to penalize society at large for problems that relatively few people have. Anyway, what do you want, a nanny government that takes you by the hand and guides you through life? I wouldn't ask a government worker for the time of day for fear of getting the wrong answer!

Politics is about finding solutions. You don't have solutions Bob, you just have complaints. That's why you should never be in politics.

What are you talking about? Abolishing those damn oppressive laws is the solution, my friend!

[The Voice of Time]

Solutions are not supposed to make new problems.

[bobevenson]

Solutions are not supposed to make new problems.

Look, you can have a maximum speed limit of 10 MPH and have no injuries or fatalities. You can increase that speed limit to 55 MPH, and probably create some new problems. The alternative is going through life at 10 MPH. I think most people would choose the 55 MPH limit.

[The Voice of Time]

Yes, and that's called politics. Sorting out what kind of policies we should have and at what degree to figure out what values of society needs ensuring the most. At one point the speed limit slows everything so much down that the gain is not considered worth the loss.

[bobevenson]

If you truly believe that the government should have the authority to tell you what size soft drink you can buy, regardless of their reasoning, I simply don't know what to say. At least a Supreme Court judge in the State of New York kicked the billionaire mayor of New York City square in the balls on this subject, and that billionaire mayor now intends to spend taxpayer money to fight the ruling. You know what I think, take New York City and Los Angeles, and cut them both loose to sink to the bottom of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans respectively, like Atlantis!