Are you agreeing or asking?Mark Question wrote:1.the future is wholly determined by the present? we have determined fate? present is determined by the past? determined by the big bang?chaz wyman wrote: The future is wholly determined by the present. But the future cannot be know fully and with certainty due to complexity.
So for me, an atheist, I am sure that cause and effect are reliable enough to predict events in the near future, but I don't have to worry about my fate as I cannot say, not can anyone else say what the future brings.
2. have you onthological "The future is wholly determined by the present", and epistemological "I am sure that cause and effect are reliable enough to predict events" sentences here?
Free will and hunger
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What do you mean; "do mind and brain have same beeing and more coherent and scientific prediction models than dualistic free will?"Mark Question wrote:do mind and brain have same beeing and more coherent and scientific prediction models than dualistic free will?Mark Question wrote:do price and product have identical properties?rantal wrote:Why must there be a presumption?
Things that are identical have identical properties (leibniz law) ask yourself this, do mind and brain have identical properties?
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or do you find onthological, metaphysical speculations more useful?
Does not make sense.
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brain and mind have to be same thing, identical?rantal wrote: Price and product are not the same thing and do not have identical properties, indeed the price is a property of the product
I am not sure what you are asking with your next sentence
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mind is more like a property of the brain?
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i am asking:chaz wyman wrote:Are you agreeing or asking?Mark Question wrote:1.the future is wholly determined by the present? we have determined fate? present is determined by the past? determined by the big bang?chaz wyman wrote: The future is wholly determined by the present. But the future cannot be know fully and with certainty due to complexity.
So for me, an atheist, I am sure that cause and effect are reliable enough to predict events in the near future, but I don't have to worry about my fate as I cannot say, not can anyone else say what the future brings.
2. have you onthological "The future is wholly determined by the present", and epistemological "I am sure that cause and effect are reliable enough to predict events" sentences here?
1. do we have fate, destiny?
2. is free will ontological or epistemological question?
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are mind and brain in same reality/beeing/world?chaz wyman wrote: What do you mean; "do mind and brain have same beeing and more coherent and scientific prediction models than dualistic free will?"
Does not make sense.
are mind and brain connected by same reality/beeing/world?
is coherent theory logically ordered or integrated, consistent?
do we need coherent and scientific prediction models?
can we predict and model free will?
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Mark Question wrote:are mind and brain in same reality/beeing/world?chaz wyman wrote: What do you mean; "do mind and brain have same beeing and more coherent and scientific prediction models than dualistic free will?"
Does not make sense.
are mind and brain connected by same reality/beeing/world?
is coherent theory logically ordered or integrated, consistent?
do we need coherent and scientific prediction models?
can we predict and model free will?
Why are you not writing in standard English construction? It makes you meaning obscure?
Of course you cannot reliably predict free will purely because it is free. However, we can get a rough guide to it and theories in the philosophy of mind have been developed to account for this
all the best, rantal
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Is English not your first language?Mark Question wrote:brain and mind have to be same thing, identical?rantal wrote: Price and product are not the same thing and do not have identical properties, indeed the price is a property of the product
I am not sure what you are asking with your next sentence
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mind is more like a property of the brain?
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Try a little punctuation.Mark Question wrote:are mind and brain in same reality/beeing/world?chaz wyman wrote: What do you mean; "do mind and brain have same beeing and more coherent and scientific prediction models than dualistic free will?"
Does not make sense.
are mind and brain connected by same reality/beeing/world?
is coherent theory logically ordered or integrated, consistent?
do we need coherent and scientific prediction models?
can we predict and model free will?
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same reason why i am not flying any airplane. it makes my feet on the ground.rantal wrote: Why are you not writing in standard English construction? It makes you meaning obscure?
Of course you cannot reliably predict free will purely because it is free. However, we can get a rough guide to it and theories in the philosophy of mind have been developed to account for this
all the best, rantal [/color][/i]
what is a good theory of mind if you want to believe in free will?
what philosophy or theory you use?
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1. is our future determined by the present( and past)?Mark Question wrote:i am asking:chaz wyman wrote: Are you agreeing or asking?
1. do we have fate, destiny?
2. is free will ontological or epistemological question?
2. is free will theoretical question?
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Mark Question wrote:same reason why i am not flying any airplane. it makes my feet on the ground.rantal wrote: Why are you not writing in standard English construction? It makes you meaning obscure?
Of course you cannot reliably predict free will purely because it is free. However, we can get a rough guide to it and theories in the philosophy of mind have been developed to account for this
all the best, rantal [/color][/i]
I take it then to be just lazyness and I am too lazy to answer
all the best, rantal
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1. Yes.Mark Question wrote:1. is our future determined by the present( and past)?Mark Question wrote:i am asking:chaz wyman wrote: Are you agreeing or asking?
1. do we have fate, destiny?
2. is free will ontological or epistemological question?
2. is free will theoretical question?
2. Do you mean "Is free-will a theoretical question?". Free-will is not a question. What do you mean theoretical?
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1. is our future destined? do we have fate, destiny?chaz wyman wrote:1. Yes.Mark Question wrote: 1. is our future determined by the present( and past)?
2. is free will theoretical question?
2. Do you mean "Is free-will a theoretical question?". Free-will is not a question. What do you mean theoretical?
2. free-will is not a philosophical question? philosophical is not rational thinking, theoretical?
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1. is "you cannot reliably predict free will purely because it is free" begging the question (Latin petitio principii, "assuming the initial point")?rantal wrote: Of course you cannot reliably predict free will purely because it is free. However, we can get a rough guide to it and theories in the philosophy of mind have been developed to account for this
2. what theory do you use to justify, rationalize the idea of free will?
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Self-evidentMark Question wrote:1. is "you cannot reliably predict free will purely because it is free" begging the question (Latin petitio principii, "assuming the initial point")?rantal wrote: Of course you cannot reliably predict free will purely because it is free. However, we can get a rough guide to it and theories in the philosophy of mind have been developed to account for this
2. what theory do you use to justify, rationalize the idea of free will?
all the best, rantal