Why is This Human Function a Universal Symbol of Love?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I think we are going to have to stay with the universally accepted characterizations I afforded to the function that was depicted within the GIF of my original post.


For whatever reason my characterization has been a bone of contention within this thread I find that none of the detractors, so far, have been able to come up with meaningful alternatives.


You are free to try...






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Actually, the nature of this inquiry, Why is This Human Function a Universal Symbol of Love? was to obtain different philosophical vantage points from fellow philosophers here at the Philosophy Now Forums.


I thought, we could all benefit from each other.







For instance, someone could make an argument for a meaning of universality of That Human Function to this:



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...just sayin.


The thread didn't go there or to a number of other places that it could have gone.


I take full responsibility...nuff said.





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[Arising_uk]

I think we are going to have to stay with the universally accepted characterizations I afforded to the function that was depicted within the GIF of my original post. ...

Do you actually read the wiki clips you post? If so you'd understand why your original post was ill-formulated.

For whatever reason my characterization has been a bone of contention within this thread I find that none of the detractors, so far, have been able to come up with meaningful alternatives.

Thats because the original was not yet meaningful and despite being shown that your thought was ill-formed you insist in your head that its not and so appear to be reasserting it!?

Your rethink was a bit better, i.e. "There is no Human Function that is a Universal Symbol of Love?", but you'd have to first prove that there is a universal thing called "love" as that is a pretty culturally loaded term as well. For me the hug is probably a good sign of 'love' across many senses.

You didn't answer why you chose an anatomists vision of a french kiss to express your thoughts?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I think by universality I meant loosing yourself.


Loosing yourself within the moment...within the act.


Again, I think we can all agree that we all feel just about the same.


That is one of the beautiful aspects of sex.








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At least for a man.


Perhaps women feel differently. They could be conniving against us whilst we are feeling the universality thingy.


Don't know.





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[Arising_uk]

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I think by universality I meant loosing yourself.


Loosing yourself within the moment...within the act.

I think you mean "losing".

If so then which part of losing yourself do you refer to? The timelessness? The abandonment? etc...

Again, I think we can all agree that we all feel just about the same.

What makes you think we all feel the same about such things?

That is one of the beautiful aspects of sex.

What is? 'Sex' appears to differ in understanding across history and cultures. Whats your understanding of it?

At least for a man.

I'd probably agree if you could state what you mean by your feelings?

Perhaps women feel differently. They could be conniving against us whilst we are feeling the universality thingy.

Don't know.

You have issues with women that you should address. On the whole I think there little difference between liberated men and women when it comes to enjoying sex, apart from the advantage of a faster recovery time between orgasms that is.
p.s.
You've still not said why you chose the anatomists view of a kiss to represent 'love'?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I know you heart is true and you are trying to forward the philosophical discourse but...












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...............................................................................................................sometimes I feel like the monkey on the left and you are the monkey on the right.






Needless to say...you don't miss much.

I, I feel like you go over my posts with a fine tooth comb!






I think it is safe to say that the function that I represented in the original post upon this thread universally represents a show of affection or love. - IF, we accept Wikipedia; the fountain of human knowledge.









I, I think if you look close...even dogs kiss.







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[Arising_uk]

I know you heart is true and you are trying to forward the philosophical discourse but...

...sometimes I feel like the monkey on the left and you are the monkey on the right.

Me, me, me ... feel, feel, feel. Try thinking and thoughting sometime.

Needless to say...you don't miss much.

I, I feel like you go over my posts with a fine tooth comb!

Nah! They are too simple for such a device.

I think [pointless wiki link ignored] it is safe to say that the function that I represented in the original post upon this thread universally represents a show of affection or love. - IF, we accept Wikipedia; the fountain of human knowledge.

Thought and thinking is the fountain of human knowledge and language and words are one of their highest expressions.

I think it unsafe to assume such a thing as the french kiss is not a universal act.

You've still not answered why you chose to use an anatomists view of a kiss to reflect your 'feelings'.

I, I think if you look close...even dogs kiss.

I think if you look closer you'll note your unconscious talking to you.

Me, whispering from above, to you...universal

Time to examine that closet Bill.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I feel the two of you nipping at my heels.


I can't give you the credibility that I enjoy.


Credibility must be earned.





I did not destroy the credibility of Barbara Brooks or the other guy. I exposed it.



I now am beginning to understand that the poster & former member here did not actually destroy your credibility, he exposed it.



Perhaps you can slowly earn credibility here. I don't know.



It would be easier to continue to explore the fact of grabbing another phoney moniker, and then use that new one to hide behind. Perhaps eventually, you could gain philosophical & moral credibility.



In the mean time, I will tell you, it doesn't matter how many magazines you subscribe to or how many books you read, morals, credibility, philosophy, is something that is lived & expressed in the moment. You can't fake it.



All the best.


Bill





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[rantal]

Let us imagine a man, a philosopher or I should say a philosopher in name, in qualification, recognised as such, admired as such, lauded even, awarded with every accedemic honour, published many books, articles in many respected journals who perhaps even attracts a following amongst his students, who starts a new paradigm in philosophy.

Still the question remains, is this man a philosopher?

all the best, urban

[Arising_uk]

I feel the two of you nipping at my heels.

What are you babbling about?

I can't give you the credibility that I enjoy.

Megalomania Man it is!

Credibility must be earned.

I prefer to earn it in the real world.

I did not destroy the credibility of Barbara Brooks or the other guy. I exposed it.

Big ya self-up now ya hear!

I now am beginning to understand that the poster & former member here did not actually destroy your credibility, he exposed it.

Who you talking about, your idol the goaturder? As a matter of interest, are you posting on his Blow Thyself forum?

Perhaps you can slowly earn credibility here. I don't know.

As usual you talk about what you don't know but let me put your mind to rest, I don't care.

It would be easier to continue to explore the fact of grabbing another phoney moniker, and then use that new one to hide behind. Perhaps eventually, you could gain philosophical & moral credibility.

That you think the weeb is the place for this.

In the mean time, I will tell you, it doesn't matter how many magazines you subscribe to or how many books you read, morals, credibility, philosophy, is something that is lived & expressed in the moment. You can't fake it.

Nah! Thats Politics which is ones philosophy and morals in action.
Ah! That famous Yank anti-intellectualism at work, "Bookz! Wee don neeed na steenken bookz!". Ignorance is Bliss eh! Bill.

All the best.

Bill

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Look, I'm the brown dog in the above GIF.


You are the white & black dog.


I've had a lot of fun with you but now my tummy hurts.




Date's over...








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[Arising_uk]

Still no replies from you Bill. Must be difficult to be you Bill as how do you manage to think yourself philosophical when you cannot answer the simplest of questions about your thoughts.

Why did you choose the anatomists view to express what you say is a symbol of love?
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That noise is someone outside your closet.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Hey bill, thanks for the flower animated gif, I think the artist really deserves a pat on the back. I wonder if there is a video of it, such that the transitions are more fluid, of course I guess it could be a sequence of stills.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Thank you.


I always appreciate knowing that someone else enjoys the images & GIFs I use.


I don't know anything more about that GIF.






As far as the other poster:


I now am beginning to understand that the poster & former member here did not actually destroy your credibility, he exposed it.

Perhaps you can slowly earn credibility here. I don't know.


I seems as if you are struggling.


The important part is you have not given-up.




I will stand by my original framework for this thread.


That function is a universal symbol of love.



I will reveal a tease that seems, so far, to have been missed; It wasn't always that way.





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[Arising_uk]

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I will stand by my original framework for this thread.


That function is a universal symbol of love.



I will reveal a tease that seems, so far, to have been missed; It wasn't always that way.[/size]

Given I told you that it appears to not have been missed at all. What was missed was your reply to that question but no change there.

How can you stand by this statement when the french kiss is still not universally performed nor does 'love' have a universally accepted definition. Although I wonder why you still use "universal" when apparently you meant "losing"? But then you didn't reply to what you meant by this either, I guess because, like you've said, you don't actually know what you mean when you say it.

Try this one, it puzzles me why you used the anatomists view of a french kiss to express 'love', why did you do this?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Let's not loose focus of the perimeters of this thread...





Why is This Function Universally Recognized as a Symbol of Love?


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Philosophically, why does this function denote the emotion of love throughout the world?



Is there something universally non-verbally understood about this physical activity?





I don't have a philosophical thesis yet. All I have is questions.

I would like to develop My thesis statement for this thread: based upon the responses I receive here from fellow members.


So, if you feel strongly about this activity please try to verbalize your feelings and I will use your response to form a thesis for this thread.





I know you look up to me and you look to me to define various aspects of real philosophy but here, in this case, I am looking for fellow members' input. Your opinion matters.

If you think there is another MORE UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED function between two people that denotes love PLEASE state that here.


Can you attempt to verbalize that non-verbal feeling when engaging in a function that denotes love?


Is there a universal feeling for you?





I don't have the answers here. I'm asking questions.


Asking questions in hopes of developing a universally descriptive caption to the above GIF that I have used.






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