Khalid wrote:But who gave Britain the right to give Zionists the land ? Let's forget about religion now , wasn't it an Arab nation with nationalistic population sharing one language and official borders ?
No, it was part of Turkeys Ottoman Empire. The right was the one all victors claim after war.
Then Israelis and British were the wrongful people in the first place . Then Palestinians had and still have the right to fight for the liberty and freedom of their country and not be blamed for carrying a weapon .
Have you read Balfour's promise the British Foreign Secretary in that time November 2nd 1917 ?
This is the letter
http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9% ... ration.JPG
Who was that Rothschild in the letter to whom the letter had been sent ? And what kind of relationship could ever be there between a man and the government of the greatest country in that time , a man who would receive a letter saying "Man here is the nation you always have been dreaming of ?"
Read,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_DeclarationI note that the Sharif of Mecca had no quibbles about carving out his slices. He also said this
"The return of these exiles [jaliya] to their homeland will prove materially and spiritually an experimental school for their [Arab] brethren who are with them in the fields, factories, trades and all things connected to the land."
I think you also miss this part in your reading, "... a national home ..." not state and "... it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious' rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, ...".
Unfortunately the British Empire was not the power it was and the Americans and Russians influenced us to what I think were bad decisions. So when both the Jew and the Muslim started fighting we pretty much gave-up and washed our hands.
Man , do you or anyone have a documented clue of the holocaust ? Well , I'm not denying the woeful story of the holocaust but I also never seen a clue or any material proving it .
Use your new found freedom to google Belsen, Buchenweld, Auswitch, et al. You can also visit the Pathe film sights, the British Govt archives and the proceedings of the Nuremberg Trials for confirmation.
You'll also discover how many Eastern Europeans(Slavs, Poles, et al), homosexuals and disabled were killed as well. Although I think most of the males were probably killed in the forced labour camps.
There is a massive difference could be there between a support and another if you ask me but according to what I know the U.S gives Egypt maybe the biggest number 1.4 billion of dollars part of the number is given as a direct cash to the government and some civil organizations and the other part is given in a military shape , and notable that number is sent due to a term in the Camp David peace treaty between Egypt and Israel . We showed thankful dispense with it several times but the U.S used to insist on sending it .
I'll wait to see who your new govt replaces the funds from.
You didn't answer that the US defended the Muslim in the the latest Balkan Wars and supported the Afghan against the USSR?
No , muslims don't hate the Jews but we absolutely hate Israelis and their imperialistic history in the Arab world . League of Arab States and leaders of major Arab countries have been trying their best during last two decades to find a fair solution for both countries , the solution of two states beside each other but Israel and it's actions have been always refusing peace . I don't know what are you talking about .
Oh please! This was after your country got together with other Arab states and decided to wipe them off the map. That you lost was the reason for all these 'fair' solution proposals.
You think if the Arab coalition had won they'd have not carved it up themselves and now be fighting over it?
You want to defuse Israel, make your own countries havens of peace, democracy, rule of law with freedom of worship - I do understand that Egypt has a fair record in this matter but whether it stays that way remains to be seen and the Copts and other minorities look very worried from over here.
There is verse in the Quran saying:
If We willed, We could send down to them from the sky a sign for which their necks would remain humbled.
Do you feel the expression ? a sign for which their necks would remain humbled , a sign would make no possibility for any doubt . But why God doesn't do that because that would make no chance for choice , there would be no test .
How convenient for 'it'. My understanding is that if your 'God' exists then why do not all 'Gods' exist? If you do not believe in others 'Gods' then you understand me with respect to yours.
Just because of instability and riots taking place nothing else . Egypt received nine millions of visitors in 2012 . Islamists in Egypt know that the country is a touristic one and tourism brings Egypt 10 billions of dollars a year and employee more 15 millions of people directly or indirectly in a time the country suffers budget deficit equals 23 billions of dollars . Many of islamists said that a tourist has the right of actions just like the freedom he has in his country .
Fair enough, lets see how it goes. I wish you luck.
Come on , take a look around for millions of unemployed poor people in Asia , Africa and the whole world today , a capital owner always want to pay less and get more work time , a worker want more cash and less work hours . And they both are supposed to meet in a middle area and this is the system taking place everywhere in the world .
I have no disagreement about the inequities of Capitalism but the rest don't generally take their passports away, rape, beat and jail them.
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The brief facts : The Semitic Arab canaanities lived in Palestine before Jews came .
The pre-Islamic ancient Eygptians were there before then, you propose we should give it back to those who claim such beliefs and ancestry?
Maybe Jews were persecuted by christians during middle ages because bad actions made by Jews , because Jews were accused of the murder of Jesus and other reasons maybe we don't know . But today most of Arab leaders , me and most of average muslims Arabs hope Israel accept peace , let a Palestinian state be established on fair borders and end a sad history of hatred of violence . But that is not going to happen because the world is ruled by the zionist free masonary and Israel is an imperialistic expansionist state .
You think Israel has any interest in invading other Arab nations? I think you live in a conspiracy delusion fostered by your religious and political leaders to keep you down.
Btw if Islam is a so dangerous thing as you claim , how do you explain the survival of ancient churches in Palestine , Egypt , Syria and other Arab countries that recieved Christianity before Islam ? And how do you explain the survival of Arab Christians such as the 10 millions of Copts living in Egypt today after 14 centuries of the dangerous Islam ?
Like I said, the Copts look pretty scared from here and I won't be surprised to see them leave in numbers. How do you explain the Muslim Israelis and their Mosques in Israel?
In your dreams.
