Being Human

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You don't even understand the thread so how can I argue with you about it??? Make your own mind up about what I think then. Who cares?

Do you know what is meant by the term 'human'?

Obviously you think some humans are less worthy than you.
We know you are friends with SecularCauses, and he seems to support your view.
He tends to use classes based epithets such as 'trailer trash'. Do you think 'trailer trash' are also subhuman?
What about blacks? Or is it just the poor/religious ones that do not qualify as human?

I said THEY are denying their humanity. It's their choice.

[thedoc]

I said THEY are denying their humanity. It's their choice.

Just to be clear, what part of their humanity are they denying, or do you feel they are rejecting their humanity as a whole? Certainly humanity encompasses a wide range of qualities, and many do not exersize all of those qualities. Who, in your opinion, is engaged in the widest variety of human qualities and is, therefore, the most human?

[SpheresOfBalance]

To deny what we have learned about our origins and place in the Universe is to deny our humanity.

Think about it. If an advanced alien species were to observe us they would probably have a check-list of discoveries to determine how advanced we are.

Understands evolution, tick.
Knows about the Big Bang, tick.
Knows about gravity, tick.
Knows the speed of light, tick.
Knows the age of the Universe, tick.
Understands multiverse theory, nearly.
And so on...

They are not going to bother themselves with creationist retards whose brains are stuck in a 5000 year old time warp. They are only going to concern themselves with what the cream of humanity has discovered, and what rational thinkers know to be true.
Creationists cannot, in all honesty, claim the title of 'human'.

I disagree! They shall ask only one question! And that shall be:

How well do they get along with others, you know, do they get it? Do they understand the significance of their/all life? "...ahhhhhh, ahhhhh hmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmm, welllllllllllllll, let me seeeeeeeeee, hmmmmmmmmm...

Hey, we'll come back later.

Yeah that's a great idea, we'll give them a little more time..."

[vegetariantaxidermy]

To deny what we have learned about our origins and place in the Universe is to deny our humanity.

Think about it. If an advanced alien species were to observe us they would probably have a check-list of discoveries to determine how advanced we are.

Understands evolution, tick.
Knows about the Big Bang, tick.
Knows about gravity, tick.
Knows the speed of light, tick.
Knows the age of the Universe, tick.
Understands multiverse theory, nearly.
And so on...

They are not going to bother themselves with creationist retards whose brains are stuck in a 5000 year old time warp. They are only going to concern themselves with what the cream of humanity has discovered, and what rational thinkers know to be true.
Creationists cannot, in all honesty, claim the title of 'human'.

I disagree! They shall ask only one question! And that shall be:

How well do they get along with others, you know, do they get it? Do they understand the significance of their/all life? "...ahhhhhh, ahhhhh hmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmm, welllllllllllllll, let me seeeeeeeeee, hmmmmmmmmm...

Hey, we'll come back later.

Yeah that's a great idea, we'll give them a little more time..."

Well once we get rid of religion I'm sure we will all get along just fine.

[Atthet]

Well once we get rid of religion I'm sure we will all get along just fine.

Let's start with getting rid of your religion, veggy. When are you going to stop loving, and start hating? Why are you so anti-hate, anti-men, and anti-evil?

[SpheresOfBalance]

To deny what we have learned about our origins and place in the Universe is to deny our humanity.

Think about it. If an advanced alien species were to observe us they would probably have a check-list of discoveries to determine how advanced we are.

Understands evolution, tick.
Knows about the Big Bang, tick.
Knows about gravity, tick.
Knows the speed of light, tick.
Knows the age of the Universe, tick.
Understands multiverse theory, nearly.
And so on...

They are not going to bother themselves with creationist retards whose brains are stuck in a 5000 year old time warp. They are only going to concern themselves with what the cream of humanity has discovered, and what rational thinkers know to be true.
Creationists cannot, in all honesty, claim the title of 'human'.

I disagree! They shall ask only one question! And that shall be:

How well do they get along with others, you know, do they get it? Do they understand the significance of their/all life? "...ahhhhhh, ahhhhh hmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmm, welllllllllllllll, let me seeeeeeeeee, hmmmmmmmmm...

Hey, we'll come back later.

Yeah that's a great idea, we'll give them a little more time..."

Well once we get rid of religion I'm sure we will all get along just fine.

Everyone sees their camp, as the right camp!

[thedoc]

Everyone sees their camp, as the right camp!

Not everyone has such a narrow view of religion, but I realize that one individual is a very small minority. However any one who has studdied the writings of Joseph Campbell, and followes it to it's conclusion, must come to accept that all religions have some truth, at the core, and should be acomodated in the world view. One of Campbell's basic premises was that all Mythology had the same root, and since Religion grows from Mythology, all Religion has the same origins, and basic teaching. The problem is when man takes those teachings and corrupts them for mans purpose, as opposed to mankinds benefit.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Everyone sees their camp, as the right camp!

Not everyone has such a narrow view of religion, but I realize that one individual is a very small minority. However any one who has studdied the writings of Joseph Campbell, and followes it to it's conclusion, must come to accept that all religions have some truth, at the core, and should be acomodated in the world view. One of Campbell's basic premises was that all Mythology had the same root, and since Religion grows from Mythology, all Religion has the same origins, and basic teaching. The problem is when man takes those teachings and corrupts them for mans purpose, as opposed to mankinds benefit.

I was referring to her camp, you know the one that wants to get rid of the religious, but at the same time, all camps that call for theirs being better than the next.

I'm reminded of Sting's lyrics: We share the same biology, regardless of ideology...

[chaz wyman]

I'm only asking.
But it is a fact that you seem to draw a distinction between humans and the religious.
It's a pity you do not want to distance yourself that that claim.

The pot sure is calling the kettle black. You claim Jews are not human.

I'll take the opportunity to distance myself from that falsehood.

That is not correct. Jews represent the finest most intelligent and talented humans on the planet.
Thought I take a dim view of religion in general, those despite any religion that identify themselves as jews, especially those that have eschewed their faith I consider them to be the world's greatest thinkers.
Spinoza, Einstein, Woody Allen to name but 3 all have excelled at their profession and are streets ahead of the competition.

[chaz wyman]

You don't even understand the thread so how can I argue with you about it??? Make your own mind up about what I think then. Who cares?

Do you know what is meant by the term 'human'?

Obviously you think some humans are less worthy than you.
We know you are friends with SecularCauses, and he seems to support your view.
He tends to use classes based epithets such as 'trailer trash'. Do you think 'trailer trash' are also subhuman?
What about blacks? Or is it just the poor/religious ones that do not qualify as human?

I said THEY are denying their humanity. It's their choice.

You are not making any sense. It is you that is trying to deny them their humanity - a word you have chosen not to define.
It seems your view of humanity is anyone stupid enough to agree with your hate.

[chaz wyman]

To deny what we have learned about our origins and place in the Universe is to deny our humanity.

Think about it. If an advanced alien species were to observe us they would probably have a check-list of discoveries to determine how advanced we are.

Understands evolution, tick.
Knows about the Big Bang, tick.
Knows about gravity, tick.
Knows the speed of light, tick.
Knows the age of the Universe, tick.
Understands multiverse theory, nearly.
And so on...

They are not going to bother themselves with creationist retards whose brains are stuck in a 5000 year old time warp. They are only going to concern themselves with what the cream of humanity has discovered, and what rational thinkers know to be true.
Creationists cannot, in all honesty, claim the title of 'human'.

I disagree! They shall ask only one question! And that shall be:

How well do they get along with others, you know, do they get it? Do they understand the significance of their/all life? "...ahhhhhh, ahhhhh hmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmm, welllllllllllllll, let me seeeeeeeeee, hmmmmmmmmm...

Hey, we'll come back later.

Yeah that's a great idea, we'll give them a little more time..."

Well once we get rid of religion I'm sure we will all get along just fine.

How are you going to do that? Concentration Camps. or reason. You show precious little propensity to reason, and less skills at persuasion than most on this Forum.

[SecularCauses]

How are you going to do that? Concentration Camps. or reason. You show precious little propensity to reason, and less skills at persuasion than most on this Forum.

I'm calling you on your bullshit along with everyone of your idiot supporters here. You claimed that because you could name three rich Jews, that the Jews control the entire US economy. Now, that is an irrational argument if there ever was one. So, please have anyone here, especially your fellow irrational bigots, explain how your statement is in any way rational? Any way consistent with logic? Science? It's not. You repeatedly make statements here that are beyond ignorant, and are no different in form and substance than what one encounters in a neo-nazi meeting of high-school dropouts. It is you who lacks the ability to see reason.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

@chaz Well I suppose that someone who thinks that Jews control the world is never going to understand my way of thinking. Creationists don't think I can 'reason' either, and who have you ever managed to 'persuade' on here?

[Atthet]

Creationists?
Show me one "thinker" on this forum who actually understands science or evolution.
Show me one "philosopher" on this forum who accepts natural selection, violent competition, and war.
Or, are you a "hater"?

[SpheresOfBalance]

Creationists?
Show me one "thinker" on this forum who actually understands science or evolution.
Show me one "philosopher" on this forum who accepts natural selection, violent competition, and war.
Or, are you a "hater"?

You seem to be a tough guy and thus I would assume you have few/no fears, correct? If so, I noticed that you have not included your age in your profile, I'm sure you wouldn't fear telling me your true age, now would you? I'm also reasonably sure you wouldn't be fearful of telling me where you live, would you? It's for a demographic study dealing with belief systems. TIA!