Misogyny

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Women can pretend to be men all they want, like allemotion posting topics on this philosophy forum. I encourage her brave and valiant efforts, to be controversial, provocative, and add some new insight to human knowledge. I expect no significant results from her vain endeavor, but hey, it's amusing if nothing else.
I like to see allemotion trying to become a philosopher, it's cute.
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Atthet wrote:Women can pretend to be men all they want, like allemotion posting topics on this philosophy forum. I encourage her brave and valiant efforts, to be controversial, provocative, and add some new insight to human knowledge. I expect no significant results from her vain endeavor, but hey, it's amusing if nothing else.
I like to see allemotion trying to become a philosopher, it's cute.
I've seen no philosophy come from you, just regurgitated, non-scientific, evidence-free, nazi/catholic, pseudo-intellectual garbage.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I've seen no philosophy come from you, just regurgitated, non-scientific, evidence-free, nazi/catholic, pseudo-intellectual garbage.
Attacks mean nothing coming from you, veggy. You must prove yourself, first. I have challenged a few with great intelligence, and a few with great courage. What you call "philosophy" is actually called, dogma.
Your dogma, your morality, your Judeo-Christian, Secular Humanist philosophy, I've seen it all. I've been through all of it, and none of it interests me or appeals to me. I know everything you know, and what you know doesn't threaten or interest me, at all. Your slave mentality, is yours to keep. Keep it.
The worst part about you and your ilk, is that you are anti-science. You don't actually know what constitutes "evidence", when you cannot discriminate, and furthermore, cannot trust your senses, and furthermore, cannot pass judgment on reality, or nature, or dogma, or another person. Continue to be what you are, nothing you do or say or think or believe or feel, will ever affect me positively or negatively.
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Atthet wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I've seen no philosophy come from you, just regurgitated, non-scientific, evidence-free, nazi/catholic, pseudo-intellectual garbage.
Attacks mean nothing coming from you, veggy. You must prove yourself, first. I have challenged a few with great intelligence, and a few with great courage. What you call "philosophy" is actually called, dogma.
Your dogma, your morality, your Judeo-Christian, Secular Humanist philosophy, I've seen it all. I've been through all of it, and none of it interests me or appeals to me. I know everything you know, and what you know doesn't threaten or interest me, at all. Your slave mentality, is yours to keep. Keep it.
The worst part about you and your ilk, is that you are anti-science. You don't actually know what constitutes "evidence", when you cannot discriminate, and furthermore, cannot trust your senses, and furthermore, cannot pass judgment on reality, or nature, or dogma, or another person. Continue to be what you are, nothing you do or say or think or believe or feel, will ever affect me positively or negatively.
Likewise. And you are the one with the Christian mentality. Nothing new there.
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Say three hail Marys, you bad boy.
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reasonvemotion wrote:Say three hail Marys, you bad boy.
Unfortunately for you and veggy, you are both wrong. I am a pagan. I am a polytheist. My definition of god is "ideal", of mankind, and what a man should become. It requires no myth, no dogma, no further explanation really. It is very simple, and I do not subscribe to one absolute God as you Jews and Christians do. There are many ideals, reflecting many cultures, many types and species of men, many religions and ideologies.
Now, your dogmas, you and veggy, become clear. You accuse me of what you are, Judeo-Christians. This is obviously not true, based on what I just said.
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I like to see allemotion trying to become a philosopher, it's cute.
No you don't. You hate my guts, because I am a woman and see through you and what is most devasting to you, I tell you. This is poison for a Misogynist.
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Atthet wrote:
reasonvemotion wrote:Say three hail Marys, you bad boy.
Unfortunately for you and veggy, you are both wrong. I am a pagan. I am a polytheist. My definition of god is "ideal", of mankind, and what a man should become. It requires no myth, no dogma, no further explanation really. It is very simple, and I do not subscribe to one absolute God as you Jews and Christians do. There are many ideals, reflecting many cultures, many types and species of men, many religions and ideologies.
Now, your dogmas, you and veggy, become clear. You accuse me of what you are, Judeo-Christians. This is obviously not true, based on what I just said.
I'm neither a Christian nor a Jew. Stick your childish labels. I detest superstition. I'm willing to bet you were brought up Catholic though. Early brain-washing never completely disappears.
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Atthet wrote:Given that Hypatia was a female philosopher, so what? What did she contribute that is remembered today? What was her defining contributions? And the best question of all, why is she important to you, Rick Lewis, except to prove a point?
Exactly to prove a point. And also to answer your own earlier question in this thread, from 3 days ago, when you said:
Atthet wrote: When will there be a first female philosopher, in world history, or a notable female mathematician or physicist? Never?
Now you accept that there has been at least one female philosopher in history, so that is a good result.

If you want we can go on and look at other examples. For instance the physicist Marie Curie? Or the large number of very eminent women moral philosophers in the mid-late 20th century? We don't have to, though because we'd just be talking about numbers. You have accepted that in principle women can be philosophers and that is good enough for now.
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reasonvemotion wrote:No you don't. You hate my guts, because I am a woman and see through you and what is most devasting to you, I tell you. This is poison for a Misogynist.
You're right, allemotion. If we met, then I'd swoon for you, embrace you tightly in my arms, and kiss you passionately. I am so weak, for you, and my "hatred" is actually this weakness seeping through. You got me. You "win".
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Stick your childish labels.
Isn't this hypocritical after you and your bosom buddy allemotion just got through accusing me of being catholic, when you couldn't be farther from the truth? Maybe you need to rethink your rationalization for my "misogyny"? If I'm a pagan, then where is my woman hating coming from? Or, could it be, that I do not give in to matriarchal world views and ideologies, like your Judeo-Christianity, that automatically puts woman above man, just because she is born with a vagina?
I thought we agreed? A woman is not owed automatic value in life, just because she has a pussy? Doesn't she earn her value in life? Or, is her value based on passivity, and superficiality, her facial beauty and the curves of her body?
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RickLewis wrote:You have accepted that in principle women can be philosophers and that is good enough for now.
Just because it's a possibility, doesn't make it true.

Women, technically, should have produced countless philosophers, physicists, and mathematicians. Women have an easier life, being anchored in the home, the hearth, and the protection of men. Women have more time, less stress, and more leisure. With this extra time, you think women would have been very creative, and challenging with their art and thoughts? However, this has not happened, for the female specie.
If men enjoyed the luxury, the leisure time, the privilege of being women, then culture, art, religion, philosophy, science, every intellectual field could have been countless times higher than now. Women do not have an incentive to be remarkable in intellectual fields, not when they base their value in life off being beautiful and non-threatening.

A woman who pretends philosophy, is threatening to men, instead of attractive and alluring to men. Because philosophy is the primary intellectual field that focuses on challenging others, and changing other people's minds, values, thoughts, and beliefs. This is the significance of doubt in philosophy.
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A woman is not owed automatic value in life, just because she has a pussy? Doesn't she earn her value in life? Or, is her value based on passivity, and superficiality, her facial beauty and the curves of her body?
What is obvious coming from you, is you can't stop salivating when "Woman" is mentioned. Yes, we will excuse for A minute while you masturbate, then perhaps afterwards you can think straight. Until the next time.
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reasonvemotion wrote:What is obvious coming from you, is you can't stop salivating when "Woman" is mentioned. Yes, we will excuse for A minute while you masturbate, then perhaps afterwards you can think straight. Until the next time.
Don't go, you beautiful female creature! Why do you always flee away from my love, I mean hate?

Think for a second, allemotion. If women's value is based on something you do, or say, or think, then isn't this a step down from being valued on how you look, what clothes you wear, and which parts of your body you expose to men on a night at the bar? Which direction is up, and which is down?
Tell me, you "female" philosopher?
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