alternatives to taxation

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Lynn
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The joys of education in its many forms :roll: .

I recall my nephew coming home in tears one day because he had been taught at school that cigarette smoking kills. Both his parents smoked and he pleaded with them to stop so that they wouldn't die. Thankfully the message stayed with him and he has never smoked however his parents still do.
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pa? remember the good old days? we used to smile. through the worst of the worst.
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Lynn wrote:The joys of education in its many forms :roll: .

I recall my nephew coming home in tears one day because he had been taught at school that cigarette smoking kills. Both his parents smoked and he pleaded with them to stop so that they wouldn't die. Thankfully the message stayed with him and he has never smoked however his parents still do.
tears are a part of school, and many more noble examples. thankfully, that message stayed with him. although i do know what you mean, i smoke, and i have no idea where that came from, i'm glad now, that the public school taught me to be a better woman.
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oh yeah, i almost forgot, that reminds me of a quote of mine.. 'they also drug children'
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well i was thinking that the alternative could benefit everyone, in a non-utopian way. i could be wrong, and i usually and most often am, but i've always wondered if some of the things we've discussed in this thread were very cyclical?

and again i could be wrong, and i usually am, but i wonder if some of the things, some? at least of the things republicans and democrats are fighting for mean something to them? who knows tho, maybe they are just out there for shits and giggles? thier slogans, signs, bumper stickers, and the 'big stuff', is just for shits and giggles, and means nothing to any of them really?
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i mean, if someone even came up to me and said i'm an american inventor trying to find harmless solutions for you, i'd say HEY GO FOR IT KID GO FOR IT KID! AND THANKS FOR THE EFFORT! THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT! :D YEAH! :D
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or apparently everyone is happy with taxation the way it is, on all sides? maybe? could've fooled me.
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even tho everyone is happy with it, and that's quite apparent, maybe it will all be solved in the next election... or maybe the next one after that..
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or the next one after that.. or the next one after that..
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a thought i've had here and there:

most of it has to fall entirely wayside from the government, but cannot be just grassroots (as we currently know it)
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in terms of health, as far as i've learned about the NHS, i love it, however, that's just not ever going to work in america, it just won't. an alternative, aside from it's current cyclical anti thesis, that for many reasons i love too, somewhere in between a type of "NHS" and its 'antithesis' that is and is not the NHS and its antithesis might work. not perfectly of course, but better than before? who knows? maybe even much better than before? (and it has to be non-governmental and non-insurance and non as we know it type of grass roots)
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There is a really good reason why a NHS would not work in the USA. And that is the simple reason that too much money is made out of insurance. The medical insurance lobby is far too powerful in the USA and many politicians own the insurance companies.
The Insurance business adds 15% + to everyones health bill, which would make the system to expensive to implement.
It is more than a co-incidence to reflect that the average provision in the US and UK is roughly the same, but in the US around 15% of the population do not have any health cover. And whilst the rich get better care in the US than the UK, the average joe gets a much poorer provision that he does in the UK - this is mainly due to insurance company Death Panels.
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