Misogyny

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:What is a 'Judeo-Christian'? If I'm one then you could at least tell me what it is. :)
A Judeo-Christian is a Jew, Christian, human, or some combination of all three identities. If you consider yourself a "human", then you are a Judeo-Christian. This cultural identification also dictates how people define "love" and "hate".
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Atthet wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:What is a 'Judeo-Christian'? If I'm one then you could at least tell me what it is. :)
A Judeo-Christian is a Jew, Christian, human, or some combination of all three identities. If you consider yourself a "human", then you are a Judeo-Christian. This cultural identification also dictates how people define "love" and "hate".
Is that a joke? If we are human then we are 'Judeo-Christians'?? I'm afraid I have never thought of myself as anything but a human. That could be because I am a human. :)
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@atthet So you are bothered by the power that females inadvertently exert over you? Tough titties!! Mostly they are not even aware of it!
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Is that a joke? If we are human then we are 'Judeo-Christians'?? I'm afraid I have never thought of myself as anything but a human. That could be because I am a human. :)
The term "human", is actually very recent in history. And it was born out of a conflict of infighting between Christians and Jews living throughout Europe. It was a term specifically built, and intended, to bring Jews and Christians together to live peacefully in European countries, and share a unified culture. This unification is today known as "humanism", or, secular humanism. It is specially engineered to create tolerance and connection between the diverse and divisive aspects of Judaism and Christianity's more severe and violent differences.
Your identity, "human", is the product of this infighting. It represents a history, a past, a nature, that you are unaware of.

It also represents a system of male and female sexual power, and how men ought to control women through sex, or not, in the Judaic and Christian traditions and dogmas. Christianity only allows for male power, over women, after a man submits to God, as the absolute form of alpha male position and domination. Judaism is different, and idolizes females, the female form, and inverts Christian morality to suit women. This is why secular humanism has become so popular, and has resulted in social movements such as "civil rights" for blacks, and feminism for women.
The term, "the meek shall inherit the Earth", is an agreement between Judaic and Christian religious dogma. Other than that, the two faiths share few other tenants and logical premises. Sometimes they work together, sometimes they pull apart and go to war, as what happened with Nazi Germany.
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Atthet wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Is that a joke? If we are human then we are 'Judeo-Christians'?? I'm afraid I have never thought of myself as anything but a human. That could be because I am a human. :)
The term "human", is actually very recent in history. And it was born out of a conflict of infighting between Christians and Jews living throughout Europe. It was a term specifically built, and intended, to bring Jews and Christians together to live peacefully in European countries, and share a unified culture. This unification is today known as "humanism", or, secular humanism. It is specially engineered to create tolerance and connection between the diverse and divisive aspects of Judaism and Christianity's more severe and violent differences.
Your identity, "human", is the product of this infighting. It represents a history, a past, a nature, that you are unaware of.

It also represents a system of male and female sexual power, and how men ought to control women through sex, or not, in the Judaic and Christian traditions and dogmas. Christianity only allows for male power, over women, after a man submits to God, as the absolute form of alpha male position and domination. Judaism is different, and idolizes females, the female form, and inverts Christian morality to suit women. This is why secular humanism has become so popular, and has resulted in social movements such as "civil rights" for blacks, and feminism for women.
The term, "the meek shall inherit the Earth", is an agreement between Judaic and Christian religious dogma. Other than that, the two faiths share few other tenants and logical premises. Sometimes they work together, sometimes they pull apart and go to war, as what happened with Nazi Germany.
Fuck!! Then I'm a chimpanzee! You still hate females!!!
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As far as IQ goes, I think you will find that atheists score higher than average and your dumbass Christians lower the score of their particular groups. I don't take much notice of IQ tests anyway, and I don't use the term 'misogyny' lightly, but you are pretty blatant and what you write couldn't be interpreted as anything else.
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Veggy, now is the time to start answering my questions.
If I hate women, then tell me more. Which women do I hate, all women equally? Do I hate stupid or intelligent women? Do I hate fat or skinny women? Do I hate ugly or beautiful women? Do I hate women with low or high class? Do I love any women, and what would this love be based on? Why would it be exceptional, compared to all the hatred?

Second question, are men and women born equally? Or, does the female specie have significantly more intrinsic value in life, just by being born, in Judeo-Christian societies? Isn't the value of a female, above that of males, and why? Should it remain unequal, if it is unequal? What's wrong with the male specie, having more intrinsic value in society, or having much more privilege and value than women?

Third question, why do women get to have sex, whenever they want to, without asking for permission from men? If the genders are equal, then shouldn't men get to have sex, whenever we want to, without asking for permission from women? Why is there a double-standard? Why the hypocrisy and false expectations, if you believe, as you do, that genders and all people are "equal"? How can we value the male and female species the same, when, we have completely different expectations? Aren't you admitting that the male and female species are actually, completely different, and we should not expect one to act and behave like the other?
Answer these questions to the best of your abilities, veggy.
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Atthet wrote:Veggy, now is the time to start answering my questions.
If I hate women, then tell me more. Which women do I hate, all women equally? Do I hate stupid or intelligent women? Do I hate fat or skinny women? Do I hate ugly or beautiful women? Do I hate women with low or high class? Do I love any women, and what would this love be based on? Why would it be exceptional, compared to all the hatred?

Second question, are men and women born equally? Or, does the female specie have significantly more intrinsic value in life, just by being born, in Judeo-Christian societies? Isn't the value of a female, above that of males, and why? Should it remain unequal, if it is unequal? What's wrong with the male specie, having more intrinsic value in society, or having much more privilege and value than women?

Third question, why do women get to have sex, whenever they want to, without asking for permission from men? If the genders are equal, then shouldn't men get to have sex, whenever we want to, without asking for permission from women? Why is there a double-standard? Why the hypocrisy and false expectations, if you believe, as you do, that genders and all people are "equal"? How can we value the male and female species the same, when, we have completely different expectations? Aren't you admitting that the male and female species are actually, completely different, and we should not expect one to act and behave like the other?
Answer these questions to the best of your abilities, veggy.
Women can't just force themselves on men either. You are talking nonsense. You don't know much about women if you think they can have sex wherever and whenever they want it. Is your wife very unwilling? I'm sorry to hear that. And yes, women do need to be treated with respect, because men are a very dangerous animal, and when there is no respect and downright irrational hatred for them women tend to end up dead! Women who hate men are harmless and generally end up with a lot of cats.
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Atthet wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Is that a joke? If we are human then we are 'Judeo-Christians'?? I'm afraid I have never thought of myself as anything but a human. That could be because I am a human. :)
The term "human", is actually very recent in history. And it was born out of a conflict of infighting between Christians and Jews living throughout Europe. It was a term specifically built, and intended, to bring Jews and Christians together to live peacefully in European countries, and share a unified culture. This unification is today known as "humanism", or, secular humanism. It is specially engineered to create tolerance and connection between the diverse and divisive aspects of Judaism and Christianity's more severe and violent differences.
Your identity, "human", is the product of this infighting. It represents a history, a past, a nature, that you are unaware of.

It also represents a system of male and female sexual power, and how men ought to control women through sex, or not, in the Judaic and Christian traditions and dogmas. Christianity only allows for male power, over women, after a man submits to God, as the absolute form of alpha male position and domination. Judaism is different, and idolizes females, the female form, and inverts Christian morality to suit women. This is why secular humanism has become so popular, and has resulted in social movements such as "civil rights" for blacks, and feminism for women.
The term, "the meek shall inherit the Earth", is an agreement between Judaic and Christian religious dogma. Other than that, the two faiths share few other tenants and logical premises. Sometimes they work together, sometimes they pull apart and go to war, as what happened with Nazi Germany.

If Judaism 'idolises females,' what's wrong with that? You can judge a society on how the women are treated. Would you prefer a patriarchal society like Islam that treats women like shit? Let me guess.
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Veggy princess pay attention!
It's clear that you, like other Judeo-Christians and humanists, favor and prefer the female specie over the male specie. You give automatic, intrinsic value to females, for no other reason than that they are born. How irrational are you, to do this?
What do I say? You are ignoring my questions. Why give more intrinsic value to one gender, over another? What is "wrong" and "evil" about putting men, above women, in intrinsic value? What is this clash of cultures between Western culture and Islamic Eastern culture? What does it say, about value of people, and the separation of genders?

Why is Judeo-Christianity, putting woman above man, "good", and Islam, putting man above woman, "evil"? Tell me, or I will assume you don't know, and I will speak for you.
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Atthet wrote:Veggy princess pay attention!
It's clear that you, like other Judeo-Christians and humanists, favor and prefer the female specie over the male specie. You give automatic, intrinsic value to females, for no other reason than that they are born. How irrational are you, to do this?
What do I say? You are ignoring my questions. Why give more intrinsic value to one gender, over another? What is "wrong" and "evil" about putting men, above women, in intrinsic value? What is this clash of cultures between Western culture and Islamic Eastern culture? What does it say, about value of people, and the separation of genders?

Why is Judeo-Christianity, putting woman above man, "good", and Islam, putting man above woman, "evil"? Tell me, or I will assume you don't know, and I will speak for you.
I did answer you. All you are doing is putting words in my mouth. I also haven't noticed society putting more value on women; quite the opposite. You clearly think you are superior to women. Good luck with that.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:It's interesting to note that if a woman came on here ranting about how much she hates men everyone would reel back in disgusted horror (both male and female), yet several posters on this forum regularly write the most vile, misogynistic shit about women and no one bats an eyelid. Women have far more reason to hate men than the other way round, yet they rarely do. Why would that be?
i think its because women do not generally take men very seriously

married women i know - my mom included - basically treat their men the same way they treat teenage boys
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Kayla wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:It's interesting to note that if a woman came on here ranting about how much she hates men everyone would reel back in disgusted horror (both male and female), yet several posters on this forum regularly write the most vile, misogynistic shit about women and no one bats an eyelid. Women have far more reason to hate men than the other way round, yet they rarely do. Why would that be?
i think its because women do not generally take men very seriously

married women i know - my mom included - basically treat their men the same way they treat teenage boys

ahhhh Hit Girl, you don't know shit .just because you,your mom & her ilk associate with mediocre lowly men doesn't mean it's true for the rest of us.
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I don't think men expect to be taken seriously by women, but they do expect to be allowed the space to have something serious to do; without the life purposes a womb naturally gives men need to be constantly after serious things to do with their lives.
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Bernard wrote:I don't think men expect to be taken seriously by women, but they do expect to be allowed the space to have something serious to do;
that sounds about right

men do not generally mind being treated like children

but they really do not like having someone be constantly on their case

my dad has his hobbies - beer making and guns and whatnot - and my mom lets him have plenty of space for that - and says that more than three instances of nagging a day is counterproductive
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