Christianity's Immoral Foundation

[ForgedinHell]

FiH, I appreciate your sense of humor!

It's proof I'm "Jewish." Don't tell Satyr though.

Night.

[Mike Strand]

I think FiH can speak for himself.

Nevertheless, Saytr, I wanted to ask, are you serious, or playing a game? Verbal warfare combined with name-calling can be fun and also a vent for anger. Maybe both playing and serious, as games can be. For your consideration: Maybe better limited to emails or phone calls to your correspondent, rather than in a public forum for philosophical discussions and debates. But I may be spoiling the fun, here. What do others think?

[Mike Strand]

Mike Strand wrote:

Verbal warfare can be fun and also a vent for anger.

Saytr wrote:

Or as a method of growth.
One also tests himself in warfare.
Himself and the one he is fighting against.

I agree, Saytr. Especially where it has been applied directly, in the discussions here, to the current topic: "Christianity's Immoral Foundation".

My position is that, whether Christianity has an immoral foundation or not is irrelevant. What are its teachings, and of what value are they to the human race?

[Satyr]

Do ya...'cause it didn't sound like it from your entry.

Ironic that those professing Christian ethos are the first to resort to threats of violence.
More so when you call them on it and all you hear is the typical movie scenario of intimidation of "motherfucker" and "I know your number now" coming from a whiny, teenage voice.
It puts things into perspective, no?

Sort of like when one declares that he has a Ph.D. or a Bachelors, in something, as if this, on its own, is supposed to give weight to anything this retard says; or when one casually mentions his 'piercing eyes" and his training in Karate.
The most afraid dog barks the loudest, no?

Tell me more about ideals and reality...because if you go that way Communism also had christian ideals...and very comforting and altruistic ones, at that.
If you prefer to indulge in childish fantasy then tell me about your credentials and your black belt Taekwondo and how you once intimidated a child with your brow and your pulsating muscles.
Let us play...Why so serious?

[Mike Strand]

Yeah, that's why I edited it to say "verbal warfare and name-calling ..." , but sorry my edit was too late for your reply.

Name-calling can throw people off the main topic, as you probably would agree. But if people find the main topic boring or threatening, well, -- as you have observed, fear can lead to the loudest barks.

I also agree that to the extent that the Christian ethos stresses peace and non-violence, it is ironic that much violence has been committed for the sake of forcing Christianity upon others (not just in defense of people's right to worship as Christians).

[chaz wyman]

There you go, proving my point. When you write that I am a "traitor to my own kind," that's because you hate Jews. I'm an atheist, bitch, get it? My "people" are none other than human beings. But, you can't help yourself. Because my father was Jewish, I must be a Jew, and I must be a representative of all other Jews. Who appointed me their representative? You think of me as Other because you are a Jew-hating bitch. Personally, I've taken enough crap from people like you. I intend to get in your faces and piss you off, and expose you scumbags for the total pieces of human excrement you truly are.

You are a disgrace to all Jews.

The only rational way to treat a person is as an individual, not as a member of a group.

This is exactly what you are failing to do.

That Jews control the US economy is a fact. I showed you the INDIVIDUAL names of those that in fact are in charge of the economy, and in whose stewardship the economy failed.

You are jettisoned your own INDIVIDUALISM and chose to ally yourself with 'jews' and "Israel", despite being ethnically European, and religiously atheistic.

In doing so you have chosen to support a state born of terrorism, and illegality, which has systematically deny the RIGHTS of INDIVIDUAL Palestinians, and to justify that you have claimed they do not deserve rights as "THEY" are part of a group who you see as terrorists.

You are a brain-dead hypocrite tosser, a disgrace to humanity in general and jews in particular.

[reasonvemotion]

You will find there will come a time, when America deserts Israel financially, as it will become a drain on their economy. It is evident they only finance where there is gain for them. Israel will be lost to those who now occupy it by default.

[Satyr]

It is a sing of resentment when a mind cannot deal with another intellectually, feelnig weak and intimidated, then resorting to the physical to compensate.

In this case AssembledatWalmarts enjoys the idea of me suffering.
It's his compensating dream.

[ForgedinHell]

That Jews control the US economy is a fact. I showed you the INDIVIDUAL names of those that in fact are in charge of the economy, and in whose stewardship the economy failed.

You are jettisoned your own INDIVIDUALISM and chose to ally yourself with 'jews' and "Israel", despite being ethnically European, and religiously atheistic.

In doing so you have chosen to support a state born of terrorism, and illegality, which has systematically deny the RIGHTS of INDIVIDUAL Palestinians, and to justify that you have claimed they do not deserve rights as "THEY" are part of a group who you see as terrorists.

You are a brain-dead hypocrite tosser, a disgrace to humanity in general and jews in particular.

Chaz, you didn't prove anything except you hate Jews and are a conspiracytard. That's it. How is mentioning 3 Jewish names poof that the Jews control the US economy? The fact you are sticking to that just shows how truly stupid, uneducated and feeeble minded you are. Go up to any economics professor with that "proof" and see how quickly you get laughed at.

You have serious mental problems. Pretending to be a Jew. Not knowing crap about them. Pretending you have proven they control the entire US economy. What an idiot you are. I can't believe anyone here at this point can see you as being some sort of educated intellectual. Your anti-semitism has loosened a few cogs in your brain. You are no better than Satyr with his death threats he keeps sending me.

[ForgedinHell]

You will find there will come a time, when America deserts Israel financially, as it will become a drain on their economy. It is evident they only finance where there is gain for them. Israel will be lost to those who now occupy it by default.

Israel doesn't need the US and really doesn't get help from the US. The US funds Israel's enemies. Then pretends it helps Israel by giving aid to Israel. Israel is developing close ties with a number of other economic powerhouses. And, because you are completely ignorant on this, many major corporations in the US have their research departments in Israel. If Israel goes, you'll see a significant and immediate drain on the US economy.

[ForgedinHell]

I'm not afraid of you, that's why I had no problem giving out my ID.

Isn't it interesting Philosophically to see how Orgyhead equates Strength with Fear-lessness, being unafraid, not scared, etc.

But Real Superiority is Acknowledging Fear, confronting it, and Overcoming it. Real Strength is about Honesty with Yourself and acknowledging your fears.

Its been the Jewish mindset since it appeared in the form of the desertgod YHHJWJHFscd that strength=fearlessness.

The Jewish paranoid complex that Nietzsche speaks of begins here; lacking the physical Vitality to possess the strength needed to not Lie To Oneself First.

Nietzsche thought anti-semites were losers.

[Satyr]

Why is that ****?
Nobody is an anti-Semite here...this is you trying to demonize yourself out of your own stupidity.
Being an anti-Semite is playing into the Jewish paradigm.
Jews want to be hated...it's part of their identity: the chosen people..chosen, by God, to suffer.
They are no race...since they come form different nations....they are a meme.

Part of the identity is based on being persecuted; the martyrs, the outsiders, the eternal victims.

[Outsider]

Nietzsche thought anti-semites were losers.

"Guess what, dumbass. If he ever made a statement, you need to look at it in context."

After Christ was executed by his own fellow Jews, Nietzsche warned the "AntiChristians" that anti-semitism was a self-hating jewish psychosis as christianity is a jewish continuity.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Nietzsche thought anti-semites were losers.

"Guess what, dumbass. If he ever made a statement, you need to look at it in context."

After Christ was executed by his own fellow Jews, Nietzsche warned the "AntiChristians" that anti-semitism was a self-hating jewish psychosis as christianity is a jewish continuity.

Jesus committed suicide, that's what you Christians say all the time. He 'sacrificed himself'.
The Romans helped him with his suicide. Stupid story. Makes no sense at all.

[Outsider]

Nietzsche thought anti-semites were losers.

"Guess what, dumbass. If he ever made a statement, you need to look at it in context."

After Christ was executed by his own fellow Jews, Nietzsche warned the "AntiChristians" that anti-semitism was a self-hating jewish psychosis as christianity is a jewish continuity.

Jesus committed suicide, that's what you Christians say all the time. He 'sacrificed himself'.
The Romans helped him with his suicide. Stupid story. Makes no sense at all.

I'm not a Christian, I'm an Atheist. Not like Orgyhead's fake atheism [he's a hardcore Zionist bowing to YjHGSggs in the name of Science].
Jesus was sacrificed and executed and tortured by his own Jewish kin for standing in their way, of wanting to socialisize their Absolute Monarchy - a pyramidal model the jews copied and inverted from their Egyptian Masters during their resentful days of slavery.

If you don't believe me, you should read what a Jew himself said on this. His name's Mitchel Heisman and he shot himself after realizing the Psychotic Self-hating, most Nihilistic self-destructive self-betraying religious lie called Judaism. See:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52947005/Heis ... icide-note