I agree that the assumptions I put in my Jul 02 post are, in a sense, "romantic". Nevertheless, I think they are the ideas of God held by many if not most believers within Christianity, Islam, and maybe even Judaism. If such a believer buys into these assumptions, then for that believer also to believe or claim that some people will be damned eternally appears to be inconsistent with their core concepts of God. As to my own stance -- I have hopes, but I don't claim they are knowledge, nor or they necessarily even "beliefs".Then you are not actually believing in any religion nor message , all what you said are just personal romantic suppositions .
This is a philosophy forum, in which I'm invited, I think, to experiment with ideas, definitions, assumptions and their implications. Thus I also want to try to make my suppositions, concepts and reasoning as clear as I can.
ForgedinHell wrote:
I agree with your thoughts and hopes as you've expressed them here. I think it's ironic, however, that many people appear to believe in a God as I've described in the assumptions of my Jul 02 post and still put themselves "above" folks whom they believe will be damned forever. If they were consistent with their beliefs about God, I think they would have a more egalitarian attitude toward other faith traditions -- more the attitude of "we're all in the same boat, so we may as well try to get along with each other."In any event, what science can do is help us understand how we developed this "us versus them" mentality, and in helping us understand the violent aspects of our nature, help us to control it. Religion, in its myth creation, creates in and out groups and does not help to establish peaceful coexistence.
