Scientific Facts In The Quran

[Kayla]

chaz, in all fairness khalid is using a second language and funny mistakes will sometimes occur

my attempts to use spanish in mexico and french in quebec and france certainly caused giggles from time to time

we should not be too hard on him

[Kayla]

All the best songs are written on drugs and alcohol.
That's why all muslim music is shit (when it is not forbidden).

obviously you have never listened to nasrat fateh ali khan

or maybe you are just a garden variety bigot

we have lots of your kind here in texas you should visit youd feel right at home

[chaz wyman]

All the best songs are written on drugs and alcohol.
That's why all muslim music is shit (when it is not forbidden).

obviously you have never listened to nasrat fateh ali khan

or maybe you are just a garden variety bigot

we have lots of your kind here in texas you should visit youd feel right at home

nasrat fateh ali khan is great. But I particularly like Junoon - both of whom are forbidden by Islam.

nasrat fateh ali khan is s Sufi - and not mainstream Islam.

Junoon - is Eastern Rock they have been fighting again music being banned by Islam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZqWbNEZA1I

[Khalid]

Actually Arab world generated many amazing talents in all fields of art , in music Om kalthoum and Abd el halim hafez who were considered as musical legends in Egypt . Today music is still something important in peoples' lives and we used to sing in the streets druing the revolution .

[Kayla]

Actually Arab world generated many amazing talents in all fields of art , in music Om kalthoum and Abd el halim hafez who were considered as musical legends in Egypt . Today music is still something important in peoples' lives and we used to sing in the streets druing the revolution .

i went to a mosque as part of a research project for comparative religions class

the imams wife told me that music is forbidden

i asked her about nasrat fateh ali khan she said he is not a real muslim

(apparently imam is not allowed to talk to girls because they will cause him to spontaneously combust or something

girls my age at the mosque told me that they have no problem with music at all but took it as the natural order of things that the imam and his wife believe that anything that is fun is not allowed

[Khalid]

Actually Arab world generated many amazing talents in all fields of art , in music Om kalthoum and Abd el halim hafez who were considered as musical legends in Egypt . Today music is still something important in peoples' lives and we used to sing in the streets druing the revolution .

i went to a mosque as part of a research project for comparative religions class

the imams wife told me that music is forbidden

i asked her about nasrat fateh ali khan she said he is not a real muslim

(apparently imam is not allowed to talk to girls because they will cause him to spontaneously combust or something

girls my age at the mosque told me that they have no problem with music at all but took it as the natural order of things that the imam and his wife believe that anything that is fun is not allowed

No , I don't see music that way , music can be used in spreading good messages , love and peace between people . Bob marley used music as a weapon against racism and hate . A song can move people to make change like in the revolution or in a war . And also music can be used in an evilish way like marilyn manson's songs and others .

[John]

No , I don't see music that way , music can be used in spreading good messages , love and peace between people . Bob marley used music as a weapon against racism and hate . A song can move people to make change like in the revolution or in a war .

I agree and I think it's a bit unfair to generalise about Islam's attitude towards music becasue I suspect most of the Islamic world gets along quite happily with it.

And also music can be used in an evilish way like marilyn manson's songs and others .

Relax, it's just showbiz. I'm not particularly a fan on Marilyn Manson bit I heard a rumour that a lot of people that listen to his music don't become mass murderers or worship the Devil.

[Khalid]

Relax, it's just showbiz. I'm not particularly a fan on Marilyn Manson bit I heard a rumour that a lot of people that listen to his music don't become mass murderers or worship the Devil.

I'm relaxed , it's just my opinion but look at him , he looks like the anti-christ , really horrible .

[chaz wyman]

Relax, it's just showbiz. I'm not particularly a fan on Marilyn Manson bit I heard a rumour that a lot of people that listen to his music don't become mass murderers or worship the Devil.

I'm relaxed , it's just my opinion but look at him , he looks like the anti-christ , really horrible .

Osama looks like Mohammed - so what?
Actually he behaved like Mohammed.
MM is just doing a performance, he does not really kill people - we can leave that up to people like Mohammed, Osama and Obama.

[Khalid]

Relax, it's just showbiz. I'm not particularly a fan on Marilyn Manson bit I heard a rumour that a lot of people that listen to his music don't become mass murderers or worship the Devil.

I'm relaxed , it's just my opinion but look at him , he looks like the anti-christ , really horrible .

Osama looks like Mohammed - so what?
Actually he behaved like Mohammed.
MM is just doing a performance, he does not really kill people - we can leave that up to people like Mohammed, Osama and Obama.

When Muhammad won the conclusive battle against dis-believers , the final and biggest victory that made him gain all the power and control , people of the (madina) were waiting for his arrival , he entered the city looking down in humility like any normal man not a leader , he told people to exchange greetings (Al salam Alykoum wa rahmat allah) that means peace and God's mercy be upon , even if I don't know you I should greet you . He told neighbors to help and love each others . All in all , you know nothing but hate and arrogance . And Osama Bin Laden is a CIA agent .

[John]

And Osama Bin Laden is a CIA agent.

Is it just because you're offended that you've said that or do you really think that Bin Laden was a CIA agent?

Do you think all Islamic terrorists are in the pay of the CIA? Do you think that Islamic terrorist attacks are all orchestrated by Western governments to make Islam look bad and provide a pretext for invasion and interference in the region?

Is that really what you believe?

[chaz wyman]

. And Osama Bin Laden is a CIA agent .

You stupid cock

[Khalid]

And Osama Bin Laden is a CIA agent.

Is it just because you're offended that you've said that or do you really think that Bin Laden was a CIA agent?

Do you think all Islamic terrorists are in the pay of the CIA? Do you think that Islamic terrorist attacks are all orchestrated by Western governments to make Islam look bad and provide a pretext for invasion and interference in the region?

Is that really what you believe?

With no doubt , we are not evil , and who gave Osama an authorization to fight in the name of Islam or muslims ? And what part in the Quran gives him the justification to strike a building filled with innocent civilians ? And why the world trade center exactly so ? What about the Novus Ordo Secolurm project and Zionism taking control of the world ? Why hasn't the world uprised against any of Israeli crimes ?

[Arising_uk]

... And Osama Bin Laden is a CIA agent .

No, Osama Bin laden was a Saudi Wahhabi fundamentalist who whilst fighting with the Taliban against the Russians was funded and given training by the CIA. Another example that I bet the Yank now wishes he'd thought about before leaping in against the 'godless' commies. Ho Chi Minh being another.

[Arising_uk]

With no doubt , we are not evil , and who gave Osama an authorization to fight in the name of Islam or muslims ? ...

Does Islam have an organization that one can appeal to in these matters then? I bet not, so like most religions its open to what its believers believe. Although you can see that Osama was only taking Saudi Wahhabism to its logical conclusions and since it is the House of Saud and Saudi who has control of Mecca I guess you'd follow right along if it becomes the mainstream.

And what part in the Quran gives him the justification to strike a building filled with innocent civilians ?

What happens if he does not consider them 'innocents'?

And why the world trade center exactly so ?

Well, the truly conspiratorial in the world think it because the lease was about to run out, rents were falling, and the insurance meant the real-estate could be put to better use. The more sane think it the biggest target in new York and a symbol of all that is Christian Americas love of Mammon, he also targeted the Pentagon and some other place I guess.

What about the Novus Ordo Secolurm project and Zionism taking control of the world ?

What about it? A fantasy by the deluded who wish the world have a meaning rather than being one long cock-up by greedy and venal individuals. Oh! And an unequal distribution of scarce and finite resources.

Why hasn't the world uprised against any of Israeli crimes ?

Because in general they keep it roughly within their borders. Its why no-one has risen-up about China and all the other criminal states and nations. And because there is no 'world' nor 'international community', its either a figment of the deluded idealist or the 'outrage' of those with a political or religious agenda. Try making Egypt a shining example of a peaceful Islamic Democracy, one that has the Rule of Law for all and intends peaceful trading relations with its neighbours and I think then the Israeli might change but until then I think with or without American support you'll not see the Israeli Jew forget the Diaspora, the Pogroms nor the Holocaust.