how does one lie with a man as one does with a woman

[Arising_uk]

But after you spend your last breaths in this short worldly life , you will find the shocking truth . LIFE IS NOT COINCIDENCE NOR MEANINGLESS . And the stupor of death will bring Truth (before your eyes): "This was the thing which you were trying to escape! you were heedless of this; now have We removed your veil, and sharp is your sight this Day!"

You think the atheist repents upon his death? Think again.

When you are dying keep in mind that you won't be going anywhere, won't be meeting those who died before you and certainly won't be meeting or be judged by a 'God'. You'll be dead and gone. How will you live your life now?

The judgement day is our date you arrogant bastard . Then shall anyone who has done an atom's weight of good, see it! And anyone who has done an atom's weight of evil, shall see it. And the Companions of the Garden will call out to the Companions of the Fire: "We have indeed found the promises of our Lord to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?" They shall say, "Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them: "The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers;- "Those who would hinder (men) from the path of Allah and would seek in it something crooked: they were those who denied the Hereafter.

You are told this so you will behave because they think you to stupid to do so without threats and bribes. Try living without your 'God' for a while and see if you behave then you can return and face 'it' with a clear conscience.

[Khalid]

How does this,

Your 'prophet' appears to have a qualified kind of 'mercy and compassion'? So only towards those who believe as you do appears to be the rule of your thoughts Khalid.

You talk much about what your 'prophet' taught you but many many Muslims appear to not follow him, as they are killing Muslims and preaching hate, you included with your hate for those who are different from you sexually.

firstly I said I hate homosexuality not I hate homosexuals . In the two phrases I said homosexuality (the action) trying to be careful and not be gross . Second , for God sake stop talking about criminal individuals who exist everywhere . A friend of mine from Manchester told me that , 2 catholic priests were accused of making pederasty with children , should I say all catholic people are like that ?

What matters it to you what the homosexual does?

Disgusting for me , why don't we consider that freedom of speaking a personal opinion ?

I think its because you are scared that its catching and I'm not surprised as in a culture like yours where women are pretty much excluded from public

The stereotyped bullshit . Most of women here at-least in my country are workers , participators in elections and ministers .

and male life I would suspect that homosexuality or at least pederasty is rife. I make a difference because the pederast is not the homosexual that we have in our society and is more likely to thrive in the type of patriarchal society you support.

Have you got statistics ? If not let me tell you assure that I'm proud of my country and it's people in that matter .
I'm not supporting a religious state or society . I'm supporting a liberal society caring for our eastern culture , nature , values and our Islamic background .

When you are dying keep in mind that you won't be going anywhere, won't be meeting those who died before you and certainly won't be meeting or be judged by a 'God'. You'll be dead and gone. How will you live your life now?

1 . I do call to witness the Resurrection Day;
2 . And I do call to witness the self-reproaching spirit: (Eschew Evil).
3 . Does man think that We cannot assemble his bones?
4 . Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.
5 . But man wishes to do wrong (even) in the time in front of him.
6 . He questions: "When is the Day of Resurrection?"

[chaz wyman]

Allah shall not strike you down now , you are nothing to him .

Ah what privalege to know the mind of God. You must feel really exhalted!!!

No I'm not exalted and I don't claim to know the mind of God but I stated two facts : 1- That you are nothing to him , you are just a tiny minded insect in his universe . 2- you are given the freedom of will in this life just like any other bug, even those who are more criminal than you .

Your life is meaningless.

And you who know the mind of god - you are not arrogant!! You funny man.

All what I wrote were Koranic words you idiot . I shall not have the right to speak on his behalf and say words or describe things he didn't say . your ignorance is more funny .

It's a shame you are throwing your life away like this.

All my whole entire life is from , by , to , for and completely owned by God , the most gracious and beauty creator .

Exactly!

But I suppose it gives you a sense of power to know what God is thinking, and to harbour all that hate for so many people.

I have no hate for anybody ..Except gays, jews and Christians, just like your sillty book tells you. people like you shouldn't even speak about hate .
There you go telling people what to do and how to live their lives.
You insulted me and my faith several times and I never insulted anybody here or anywhere .
You have insulted me personally, and the entire gay community. Your faith insults everyone that is not a Muslim.
You don't know the word love . Prophet Muhammed taught us to be just and kind , and to feel the poor and hungry .
ONLY IF THEY ARE Muslims - for the rest get to burn in everlasting fire. That is HATE.
Help the wayfarer and the orphan child . And to not be cruel and miserly, his speech was soft and gentle, like a mother stroking her child, his mercy and compassion, were most radiant when he smiled . Mercy upon mankind . The most horrible man ever lived . The most evil warmongering killer and rapist that ever lived.

So fuck off and go and hate who you will. You are nothing to me, and your creed will die in the light of reason, either that or you will kill yourselves.

I shall not kill myself The Shia will kill the Sunni and the Sunni will kill the Ahmadiyya who will kill the Shia, and so it goes hate upon hate, stupidity upon stupidity.
that would be a big mistake and idiocy cause I don't own my life . DUH If you are really certain of your reasons , you kill yourself . No thanks, there are too many people like you that have already declared themselves the enemy of humanity.

[chaz wyman]

Here is Khalid 'never insulting anyone".

I fuckin hate homosexuality to death

don't know what the word , is so fuckin gay, disgusting , inhuman and unnatural

Homosexuality is so fuckin gay, disgusting , inhuman and unnatural (to me)

Here is what he thinks of god's creations.

[SpheresOfBalance]

God, are you some kind of dimwit? Do you actually think that in all cases it's a choice? Do you even know what I hermaphrodite is?

I heard that there are treatment for hermaphrodite by surgery and hormones . Anyway hermaphrodite is a sick person for me. I don't how to deal with this condition .
And what if someone does not care to go under knife? That is a choice not a mandate. They are not sick, a physical abnormality that one is born with is not a sickness, it may be considered a deformity, as to the current accepted nature of the human animal, which could be under revision. The truth is, they were created that way, what ever the reason.

Before making decisions as to any particular subject, I'd suggest getting all the facts first! Are you responsible for being brain dead? Should you then be stoned to death? As if so, in my realm of wisdom, you'd be at the bottom of a quarry!

I'm against homosexuality . I'm not gonna start a debate about the reasons ,. All what I know I was created (+) and I should have sex with the (-) .. (+) and (+) or (-) and (-) is so fuckin .. , don't know what the word , is so fuckin gay, disgusting , inhuman and unnatural .. it's the same way the majority of normal people feel about homo .
Who the hell are you to concern yourself with another's life journey? Well I'm against ragheads that are against homosexuality!! Do you see where this shallowness is heading? The only solution is acceptance of another's life journey, especially if it's merely a factor of what life has dealt them, that is beyond their ability to control. For instance, without your need of lobotomy.

I don't give a shit about your realm of wisdom or your quarry . Even if that could be considered as retroactive or uncivilized , I'm proud of that .
Apparently this went over your head, I was not threatening you.

[bobevenson]

See, I told you that Chaz is an idiot.

Says another loony godbotherer.

If you took the non-word "godbotherer" out of your so-called language, you wouldn't have a fucking thing to say, would you?

[chaz wyman]

See, I told you that Chaz is an idiot.

Says another loony godbotherer.

If you took the non-word "godbotherer" out of your so-called language, you wouldn't have a fucking thing to say, would you?

Actually had he done that, he would have said you were a loony - to which I fully concur.

Oh yeah, and you are a god-botherer too.

[lennartack]

Because he does not exist you nut-job.

None of those billions believe the same thing. None of them have a coherent picture of a creator. The notion is self-contradictory and basically stupid.
Your mental lameness is very regrettable.

Alright , let's try to solve your atheist equation , you basically deny God's existence because you don't see him ? . Well , Mankind didn't know about viruses and microbes existence before telescope was invented . And I think the ultimate or final logical equation about the existence or about life for me on 100% mental basis , is that there shouldn't be something called existence nor life !! What's the meaning of existence ? I mean the nothingness and nonexistence of you , me , all livings and universe is the ultimate mental logic for me . I say God created the universe , you say where did God come from ? I say I nor anybody have the mental ability to know that , but can you answer this , Where did the universe and existence come from ? the big bang happened and earth luckily came into a suitable spot , then things developed or evolute somehow ?. Alright , where did the universe came from before the big bang happens ? I don't know but any mental or scientific equation doesn't seem to make any materialistic logic for my brain .

Let me tell you something , Moses prophet is the only human on earth who spoke directly to God without a messenger , that was in Sinai desert and he asked God to show himself to him .

Note that your arguments apply to Flyingspaghettimonsterism as well.

I do agree with you that if our universe is a temporally finite there should be a necessary being. Why should it be your God though? It could be another universe. Or a flying spaghetti monster.

I agree that you are not received very kindly on this forum. But as pointed out by others you don't seem to be practicing much philosophy, but rather try to push your ideas onto others. Before starting a discussion you should be prepared to change your own views or at least to question your personal views to yourself. You find homosexuality disgusting? Then try to soften your disgust. It may help you to find out if there is really something bad with it or it is just your emotions.

[Arising_uk]

firstly I said I hate homosexuality not I hate homosexuals . In the two phrases I said homosexuality (the action) trying to be careful and not be gross . Second , for God sake stop talking about criminal individuals who exist everywhere . A friend of mine from Manchester told me that , 2 catholic priests were accused of making pederasty with children , should I say all catholic people are like that ?

A fair percentage of catholic priests, yes.

Hate is still hate, something you said that your book teaches you not to do.

Disgusting for me , why don't we consider that freedom of speaking a personal opinion ?

We do but you appear to not wish it when talking about your 'God' or your 'prophet' or your beliefs.

The stereotyped bullshit . Most of women here at-least in my country are workers , participators in elections and ministers .

You've not had any elections until now? Do you think women will do as well in the future as you appear to be talking about the secular dictatordhip of Mubarak.

Have you got statistics ? If not let me tell you assure that I'm proud of my country and it's people in that matter .
I'm not supporting a religious state or society . I'm supporting a liberal society caring for our eastern culture , nature , values and our Islamic background .

Not liberal according to your beliefs about homosexuality? Or are you saying homosexuality is allowed in Egypt?

1 . I do call to witness the Resurrection Day;

Do you? How are you witnessing this event?

2 . And I do call to witness the self-reproaching spirit: (Eschew Evil).

I do.

3 . Does man think that We cannot assemble his bones?

Who's this 'We'?

4 . Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.

Who's this 'We'?

5 . But man wishes to do wrong (even) in the time in front of him.

'We' appear to have made pretty badly then.

6 . He questions: "When is the Day of Resurrection?"

So when is it? Handy that this belief allows no questions.

What will you do if this 'Day of Resurrection' is not true?

[reasonvemotion]

I do agree with you that if our universe is a temporally finite there should be a necessary being. Why should it be your God though? It could be another universe. Or a flying spaghetti monster.

I agree that you are not received very kindly on this forum. But as pointed out by others you don't seem to be practicing much philosophy, but rather try to push your ideas onto others. Before starting a discussion you should be prepared to change your own views or at least to question your personal views to yourself. You find homosexuality disgusting? Then try to soften your disgust. It may help you to find out if there is really something bad with it or it is just your emotions.

Admirably written lennartack

[Khalid]

.Except gays, jews and Christians, just like your sillty book tells you

My book tells me they are different than me and they gone astray for specific reasons like distorting their books and re-writing it into editions and then say "this is from God" , also Christians say Jesus is the son of God . But the word "hate" is so big my friend , and it would be unfair to say that any religion encourages hate. Cause psychologically religions attract people by love , purity and human feelings . In addition the book tells us in some verses to treat the non muslims kindly and justly.

You have insulted me personally, and the entire gay community. Your faith insults everyone that is not a Muslim.

Here is Khalid 'never insulting anyone".

Not only my faith that has made me against homosexuality , it's also my culture and how I was grown up . Guys have you learned the meaning of these words "purity - morals" in school ?
Alright can you dare deny this fact ?


You see the consequences . There is no God , right Chaz ?

ONLY IF THEY ARE Muslims - for the rest get to burn in everlasting fire. That is HATE.

Why is hate? Am the one who is going to burn them in fire ? The one who created them , will judge them according to his wisdom . He knows everybody's life and he knows what you think inside your head .

The Shia will kill the Sunni and the Sunni will kill the Ahmadiyya who will kill the Shia, and so it goes hate upon hate, stupidity upon stupidity.

Shia are averagely 10% of muslims , the majority is Sunni . I don't know how God will judge them or whether will they be in hell or heaven but I never imagine us fighting them , they are our brothers . That's what the U.S masonic government is trying to do and wish happen .

[Kayla]

khalid what fact are you talking about

also you should keep in mind that lesbians have lower STD rates than gay men or straight men or women

does this mean that god approves of lesbianism

[Khalid]

Because he does not exist you nut-job.

None of those billions believe the same thing. None of them have a coherent picture of a creator. The notion is self-contradictory and basically stupid.
Your mental lameness is very regrettable.

Alright , let's try to solve your atheist equation , you basically deny God's existence because you don't see him ? . Well , Mankind didn't know about viruses and microbes existence before telescope was invented . And I think the ultimate or final logical equation about the existence or about life for me on 100% mental basis , is that there shouldn't be something called existence nor life !! What's the meaning of existence ? I mean the nothingness and nonexistence of you , me , all livings and universe is the ultimate mental logic for me . I say God created the universe , you say where did God come from ? I say I nor anybody have the mental ability to know that , but can you answer this , Where did the universe and existence come from ? the big bang happened and earth luckily came into a suitable spot , then things developed or evolute somehow ?. Alright , where did the universe came from before the big bang happens ? I don't know but any mental or scientific equation doesn't seem to make any materialistic logic for my brain .

Let me tell you something , Moses prophet is the only human on earth who spoke directly to God without a messenger , that was in Sinai desert and he asked God to show himself to him .

Note that your arguments apply to Flyingspaghettimonsterism as well.

I do agree with you that if our universe is a temporally finite there should be a necessary being. Why should it be your God though? It could be another universe. Or a flying spaghetti monster.

I don't completely understand your question but let me ask you , Why do I have to suppose how God looks like or suppose that he is another universe ?

You find homosexuality disgusting? Then try to soften your disgust. It may help you to find out if there is really something bad with it or it is just your emotions.

Alright , let's put the matter of bad and good aside , everyone has his culture and beliefs . My emotions are very against homosexuality , I'm free now it's my opinion.

[Khalid]

khalid what fact are you talking about

also you should keep in mind that lesbians have lower STD rates than gay men or straight men or women

does this mean that god approves of lesbianism

No , it doesn't mean so .

[Kayla]

My emotions are very against homosexuality , I'm free now it's my opinion.

ok let me see if i can explain this in terms you can understand

THIS PHILOSOPHY FORUM

EXPRESS ONLY OPINION BAD

JUSTIFY OPINION GOOD

IF KHALID NO JUSTIFY OPINION EVERYONE MAKE FUN OF KHALID