Free Will Mix

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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chaz wyman wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote: It was no invitation, just a parting wisdom, something to take with you, that you may want to consider, maybe not. Unless you're leaving the forum, otherwise I'm sure we'll bump into each other again. But I have to wonder why you were compelled to respond, if in fact you meant as you say, as you owe me nothing! Or maybe you feel otherwise!
Wisdom?? That's a joke!!! :D
To a, fool; a relatively skeptical egomaniac! :lol:
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote: It was no invitation, just a parting wisdom, something to take with you, that you may want to consider, maybe not. Unless you're leaving the forum, otherwise I'm sure we'll bump into each other again. But I have to wonder why you were compelled to respond, if in fact you meant as you say, as you owe me nothing! Or maybe you feel otherwise!
Wisdom?? That's a joke!!! :D
To a, fool; a relatively skeptical egomaniac! :lol:
You have misused the comma and the semi-colon. Have you ever been to school?
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SpheresOfBalance wrote: It was no invitation, just a parting wisdom, something to take with you, that you may want to consider, maybe not. Unless you're leaving the forum, otherwise I'm sure we'll bump into each other again. But I have to wonder why you were compelled to respond, if in fact you meant as you say, as you owe me nothing! Or maybe you feel otherwise!
chaz wyman wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:Wisdom?? That's a joke!!! :D
To a, fool; a relatively skeptical egomaniac! :lol:
You have misused the comma and the semi-colon. Have you ever been to school?
Incorrect, my prof said as to commas, creative license, and those that resort to such trivial points are usually at a loss for words.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Kim (afraid to stand up and be counted for what you are), ...
And what pray tell is that? But don't bother if you mean your gender 'intuition' as I'd book that in for repair as its badly in need of a refit.
I have already apologized for going too far and thus owe you no more. ...
Pardon!? Who asked you for any more? As I told you, save your pointless platitudes and apologies for yourself and those stupid enough to think you sincere about such things.
You are a liar here in a forum of truth and knowledge, your deception is more about winning in argument and your own self esteem than it is about truth and real knowledge, which is really just a weapon, in your mind, though a feeble one, as you merely try and tire people. ...
What are you drivelling about now? "Tire" people!? Its a philosophy forum numbnuts, as such I'd have thought conversation as food and sustenance.

You are truly a paranoid and are full of psycho-babble but show me where and what I lie about?
Therefore I have placed you on ignore, as your words mean nothing of importance to me, and just take up my time needlessly. However I shall pop in to your other conversations, from time to time to see how you’re doing with others and may comment on your flawed logic. ...
LMFAO! So not actually ignore then. but thats mighty big of you but please don't bother as you've yet to understand logic as far as I can see.
Anything you say to me shall go unseen, unchallenged and unanswered, so fire away, so as to hear yourself, which is all you’re really any good at! ...
Whilst I do hold and prefer one-to-one conversations in this format you think I don't also write for others? So really I give not a toss about the above as it just demonstrates what a pretentious prat you are and how full of yourself you truly are. Good job you're not reading this. :lol:
Even though you are a queen of misconception and thus don’t really deserve the above, I still hold you accountable, because you’ve been told, and refuse to heed and correct. ...
Piss-off you knob! Your account means nothing to me, nor does your pathetic patriarchal tone, might work with the stupid bimbos you meet but here it shows you for the twat you are.
P.S. We each have free will, only to the extent of our own bubbles of knowledge and understanding, within the realm of possibilities, as presented by the reality of existence. To consider free will outside of these constraints as a means to argue is only done by those of superstitions, those that actually believe in magic.
You might think by adding your little posies that you've said something here but you haven't. All you've done is said we have 'free will' but only within determinism which apparently are these 'bubbles','realms' and 'reality'. As such you are contradicting your idea of a 'free will' as its not 'free' is it. Why not just drop this 'free' part and say, as philosophers already have, that its Will. Even then I disagree as you've not said what this determinism actually consists of and personally whilst I think there are constraints upon the will I think the fact that we have imagination and creativity makes most of them non-applicable when it comes to pretty much all thought and behaviour.

That you once again make a little dig at something you've not read just because you have a pre-concieved idea of what the word "magic" applies to in this case shows how badly you apply Socrates idea that 'I know nothing', as you appear to make a lot of judgements about things you don't know. Personally I think those that actually believe that they have some special 'intuition' are the superstitious ones.

I also think that you will be in therapy for a long time and think you actually like it this way as I suspect you are one of those who thinks they are cleverer than the shrink and actually only go to reinforce your beliefs rather than to change what ails you. Hence you shop around the shrink market picking and choosing what suits you. I hope you find a truly good therapist, or even better an NLP trained one, who will get you to state your outcomes in the positive and then get you to examine what is actually stopping you from changing and achieving the outcome you want.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Incorrect, my prof said as to commas, creative license, and those that resort to such trivial points are usually at a loss for words.
Creative bullshit.
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chaz wyman wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Incorrect, my prof said as to commas, creative license, and those that resort to such trivial points are usually at a loss for words.
Creative bullshit.
Please excuse me if I take the word of a PhD in English over a tired old cranky p****, that could never effectively teach due to the stick up his arse. :lol:
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Please excuse me if I take the word of a PhD in English over a tired old cranky p****, that could never effectively teach due to the stick up his arse. :lol:
I thought SOB said that he did an Art History course(degree?)? Do Profs of English teach this subject?
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Incorrect, my prof said as to commas, creative license, and those that resort to such trivial points are usually at a loss for words.
Creative bullshit.
Please excuse me if I take the word of a PhD in English over a tired old cranky p****, that could never effectively teach due to the stick up his arse. :lol:
You are a 22carat idiot if you think that anyone who has studied English beyond the age of 8 would ever parse "To a, fool; a relatively skeptical egomaniac!" as grammatical.
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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Please excuse me if I take the word of a PhD in English over a tired old cranky p****, that could never effectively teach due to the stick up his arse. :lol:
I thought SOB said that he did an Art History course(degree?)? Do Profs of English teach this subject?
Art studies!! That says it all.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Incorrect, my prof said as to commas, creative license, and those that resort to such trivial points are usually at a loss for words.
chaz wyman wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:Creative bullshit.
Please excuse me if I take the word of a PhD in English over a tired old cranky p****, that could never effectively teach due to the stick up his arse. :lol:
You are a 22carat idiot if you think that anyone who has studied English beyond the age of 8 would ever parse "To a, fool; a relatively skeptical egomaniac!" as grammatical.
You are desperate, aren't you boy?
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chaz wyman wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Please excuse me if I take the word of a PhD in English over a tired old cranky p****, that could never effectively teach due to the stick up his arse. :lol:
I thought SOB said that he did an Art History course(degree?)? Do Profs of English teach this subject?
Art studies!! That says it all.
Some of you people here are truly idiots.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Some of you people here are truly idiots.
Hold on! You said you did not complete your Philosophy course and took an Art History course and now say you had an English Professor. I was just wondering what the actual truth of the matter was?
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I don't know that she, Kim (Arising_uk) has, as she has been ignored by me, but it would seem as possible, due to the circumstantial evidence of her following me, and her Insatiable need to beat people in her own mind, to prove she is something.

Keep in mind that she has been proven to be a LIAR, afraid to stand up and be counted for what she is. She is a back stabber one that would kick someone while they are on the ground. She has no sense of whats right. Her win, as she sees it, is all she cares about.

I, on the other hand have been nothing but honest and truthful to the point of even laying my most private truths out their for all to see, I am self deprecating, and willing to apologize if I feel I was short sighted as to someones intent.

Many of her assertions are based upon her assumptions which she is quick to jump to, such that many of them are unfounded, born of her need to prove herself worthy as a female, that which she has in the past been afraid to own up too.

So don't take too much stock in her words as she is bitter because I outed that part of her that she is obviously ashamed of, merely the trivial fact that she is a she, or there would have been no need for her to LIE so adamantly about it.

From this day forward anytime she follows me I shall post this to remind people of her nature. Her assertions almost always have been misinformed as she fails to understand, another's points and merely supplies her own in their stead, such as to effectively, merely argue with herself.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:I don't know that she, Kim (Arising_uk) has, as she has been ignored by me, but it would seem as possible, due to the circumstantial evidence of her following me, and her Insatiable need to beat people in her own mind, to prove she is something. ...
Anyone got a clue what this is supposed to mean?
Keep in mind that she has been proven to be a LIAR, afraid to stand up and be counted for what she is. She is a back stabber one that would kick someone while they are on the ground. She has no sense of whats right. Her win, as she sees it, is all she cares about.
Save your psycho-babble for yourself and your shrinks.

But show me where I've lied?
I, on the other hand ...
See my reply to this guff elsewhere.
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I don't know that she, Kim (Arising_uk) has, as she has been ignored by me, but it would seem as possible, due to the circumstantial evidence of her following me, and her Insatiable need to beat people in her own mind, to prove she is something.

Keep in mind that she has been proven to be a LIAR, afraid to stand up and be counted for what she is. She is a back stabber one that would kick someone while they are on the ground. She has no sense of whats right. Her win, as she sees it, is all she cares about.

I, on the other hand have been nothing but honest and truthful to the point of even laying my most private truths out their for all to see, I am self deprecating, and willing to apologize if I feel I was short sighted as to someones intent.

Many of her assertions are based upon her assumptions which she is quick to jump to, such that many of them are unfounded, born of her need to prove herself worthy as a female, that which she has in the past been afraid to own up too.

So don't take too much stock in her words as she is bitter because I outed that part of her that she is obviously ashamed of, merely the trivial fact that she is a she, or there would have been no need for her to LIE so adamantly about it.

From this day forward anytime she follows me I shall post this to remind people of her nature. Her assertions almost always have been misinformed as she fails to understand, another's points and merely supplies her own in their stead, such as to effectively, merely argue with herself.
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