sushil_yadav wrote:I know this........I know this.......This is what your ancestors were doing in my country........This is what your ancestors were doing in the continents of Asia, Africa and America for centuries during the era of colonization.........decimating the native population......and much more......looting, plundering and exploiting the natural resources......destroying local cultures.SpheresOfBalance wrote: I know for a fact, that in my defense, that you and I, at any given age, hand to hand, man to man, would end with you laying flat on your back, no I don't believe in killing, just a good ass whipping for those that try and wield offense.
That's funny, how could you possibly know of my ancestors, while I don't. Plus how could I possibly be responsible for their actions, of course, I'm not even sure what they were. You sound like a nut job, I've never done anything to you or anyone else, you are deluded.
That is why I asked you to try your luck in Afghanistan.........Those people are not as docile as Indians or Red Indians.
I'm not responsible for my ancestors actions just like you're not. Each man is only accountable for their own actions. I am on the side of ALL oppressed or conquered peoples. You must have me confused with your reflection.
Your profile says you are a "seeker of truth".........What a joke!.......Your expletive laden posts are proof of your truth seeking.
I am a seeker of truth, which has absolutely nothing to do with my foul language because of my bad, frustration laden days. I may sometimes have the mouth of a sailor, but I always have a heart of gold.
I don't know what has troubled you, but it sure the hell wasn't me. I love all good people of the world, and I hate those that hate, unless they have a change of heart.
Population is killing Mother Earth just as much as waste products from industrialization is, because of 'Demand' and Supply!
For your information, shit bird, I was devastated when I found out that Union Carbide had a plant in India that exploded and leaked HazMat that killed the people in that vicinity, what was that, like in the 70's or 80's. It pissed me off that Britain occupied India, just like it pissed me off that the American Indians were killed when the USA was being settled. It pissed me off when the UK tested their nuclear bombs, on a supposed uninhabited site in Australia, killing native aborigines. You have the wrong man, my fool. I'm your best friend when it comes to what's right and what's wrong. But don't ask me to kill anyone, because that shall never happen, unless of course, in my defense, I have no other choice.
Grow up, my son, your thinking seems to be convoluted.
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SpheresOfBalance,
I never asked you to kill anyone.........You can check my previous posts.
I only asked you to give some advice to "Coalition of the Willing" which has been unable to find a solution for 10 years.
It was you who started talking about having a fight with me.
I never asked you to kill anyone.........You can check my previous posts.
I only asked you to give some advice to "Coalition of the Willing" which has been unable to find a solution for 10 years.
It was you who started talking about having a fight with me.
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Wrong, it was you that threatened me via inference by saying that I should engage in war with the Afghans and that they would teach me, and I quote:sushil_yadav wrote:SpheresOfBalance,
I never asked you to kill anyone.........You can check my previous posts.
I only asked you to give some advice to "Coalition of the Willing" which has been unable to find a solution for 10 years.
It was you who started talking about having a fight with me.
So then my example was that I was only of a defensive stance, and that between you and I, I would just stand there until you offended (attacked) me. It was not real but rather to show you what kind of man I am, as you had seriously misjudged me, and placed me in harms way, as if I actually deserved such treatment. I thought your words, too bold, for not knowing me, and decided to up the ante. so as to show you, through example, my true nature.sushil_yadav wrote:Why don't you go to Afghanistan and help out the "Coalition of the Willing" / "Coalition of the Stupid".....They would welcome your advice.
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Environment cannot be saved by planting trees.......Environment can only be saved by not cutting trees.
Environment cannot be saved by planting trees.......Environment can only be saved by stopping Industrial Activity for production of consumer goods and services.
What is the point of planting millions of trees when Industrial Activity is cutting down billions of trees?????
You cut down forests resulting in killing of fully grown trees........ then you plant a few saplings and call it replacement????????
You cut down forests resulting in killing/ decimation of millions of species of plants, trees, animals, birds and insects that lived in the forests and developed over millions of years..........then you plant a few saplings and call it replacement????????
And where is man pretending to be planting trees.......When forests are destroyed the forest land is acquired for agriculture, ever expanding towns and cities, setting up of industrial zones and for millions of kilometers of rail and road network........ So where are new forests coming up.......On cement, concrete and asphalt????........In cities, towns and industrial zones???????
Nature does the work of planting trees millions of times better than man.........The forests of this world were not created by man, they were created by nature over millions of years........If you leave nature undisturbed it will grow billions of trees by itself every year.
Destruction of Trees / Forests is only one part of environmental destruction.
Environmental Destruction is much bigger than destruction of trees / forests.
How is tree planting going to save environment that is being destroyed by Energy Generation Industry, Mining Industry, Logging Industry, Manufacturing Industry, Construction Industry, Oil Drilling Industry, Oil Refining Industry, Transportation Industry, Millions of kilometers of Rail and Road Network, Millions of kilometers of Air Routes and Shipping Lanes????????
How is tree planting going to save environment that is being destroyed by Industrial Activity that is producing Trillions of tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic Waste, Chemical Waste, Gaseous Waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste that has contaminated and poisoned the entire planet????????
Height of Insanity, Abnormality and Criminality.
Hunter_Gatherer Society did not save environment by planting trees......It saved environment by not indulging in Industrial Activity.
Agrarian Society did not save environment by planting trees..........It saved environment by not indulging in Industrial Activity.
You cannot save a person after killing him......You can only save him by not killing him.
You cannot save environment after it has been killed by Industrial Activity........You can only save it by stopping Industrial Activity.
Food, clothing and shelter......these are the maximum number of things this planet can provide to humans.
For millions of years the list of things that destroyed environment never exceeded food, clothing and shelter.
A pure non-industrial society is not possible now because Industrialization has increased world population to 7 billion.......World population increased from 1 billion in 1800 to 7 billion in just about 200 years after industrialization.......In the absence of industrialization world population would have been only a small fraction of 7 billion today.
If we want to save the remaining environment we must minimize the things that are destroying environment.
At present we are destroying environment for Food, Clothing, Shelter plus Thousands of Industrial consumer goods and services.
We must eliminate the things that were added last to the list......which means Thousands of consumer goods and services, most of which have existed for only about 100 years out of Hundreds of Thousands of years of Total Human Existence on earth .........these have to be eliminated or minimized.
We are approaching Environmental Apocalypse.......The only way to save the remaining environment is by stopping Industrial Activity for production of consumer goods and services immediately........Industrial Activity must be limited to food, clothing and shelter.......and even in these three fields production and consumption must be kept to the minimum.
Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment
Environment cannot be saved by planting trees.......Environment can only be saved by stopping Industrial Activity for production of consumer goods and services.
What is the point of planting millions of trees when Industrial Activity is cutting down billions of trees?????
You cut down forests resulting in killing of fully grown trees........ then you plant a few saplings and call it replacement????????
You cut down forests resulting in killing/ decimation of millions of species of plants, trees, animals, birds and insects that lived in the forests and developed over millions of years..........then you plant a few saplings and call it replacement????????
And where is man pretending to be planting trees.......When forests are destroyed the forest land is acquired for agriculture, ever expanding towns and cities, setting up of industrial zones and for millions of kilometers of rail and road network........ So where are new forests coming up.......On cement, concrete and asphalt????........In cities, towns and industrial zones???????
Nature does the work of planting trees millions of times better than man.........The forests of this world were not created by man, they were created by nature over millions of years........If you leave nature undisturbed it will grow billions of trees by itself every year.
Destruction of Trees / Forests is only one part of environmental destruction.
Environmental Destruction is much bigger than destruction of trees / forests.
How is tree planting going to save environment that is being destroyed by Energy Generation Industry, Mining Industry, Logging Industry, Manufacturing Industry, Construction Industry, Oil Drilling Industry, Oil Refining Industry, Transportation Industry, Millions of kilometers of Rail and Road Network, Millions of kilometers of Air Routes and Shipping Lanes????????
How is tree planting going to save environment that is being destroyed by Industrial Activity that is producing Trillions of tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic Waste, Chemical Waste, Gaseous Waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste that has contaminated and poisoned the entire planet????????
Height of Insanity, Abnormality and Criminality.
Hunter_Gatherer Society did not save environment by planting trees......It saved environment by not indulging in Industrial Activity.
Agrarian Society did not save environment by planting trees..........It saved environment by not indulging in Industrial Activity.
You cannot save a person after killing him......You can only save him by not killing him.
You cannot save environment after it has been killed by Industrial Activity........You can only save it by stopping Industrial Activity.
Food, clothing and shelter......these are the maximum number of things this planet can provide to humans.
For millions of years the list of things that destroyed environment never exceeded food, clothing and shelter.
A pure non-industrial society is not possible now because Industrialization has increased world population to 7 billion.......World population increased from 1 billion in 1800 to 7 billion in just about 200 years after industrialization.......In the absence of industrialization world population would have been only a small fraction of 7 billion today.
If we want to save the remaining environment we must minimize the things that are destroying environment.
At present we are destroying environment for Food, Clothing, Shelter plus Thousands of Industrial consumer goods and services.
We must eliminate the things that were added last to the list......which means Thousands of consumer goods and services, most of which have existed for only about 100 years out of Hundreds of Thousands of years of Total Human Existence on earth .........these have to be eliminated or minimized.
We are approaching Environmental Apocalypse.......The only way to save the remaining environment is by stopping Industrial Activity for production of consumer goods and services immediately........Industrial Activity must be limited to food, clothing and shelter.......and even in these three fields production and consumption must be kept to the minimum.
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He types on his industrially made computer.sushil_yadav wrote:Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment
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yes dear, u are very right, i love u,,,, lets pray and produce rays of our souls so that all the machinery, industrialization, computers including satellites and space crafts become the part of the same earth planet after meshing, simultaneously the producers of these things should be faced like machines, and let them the part of same earth so that they may produce as such animals, plants, jungles, birds and what sort of life they have destroyed. mankind (dirty man animal) killed environment, animals, jungles, birds, fishes, now its time to fill the blanks, let effected one to take its time. we are with u o our great jungles, animals, fishes, we hate dirty humans. which now only know to destroy, not produce life.
my red salutes to the author of "Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment", may red flowers hurt u, i know u like the hurt of flowers more then the hurt of guns... and after that i m praying for ur life full of the functions which eat industry, industrialists, and produce jungles, animals, fishes, clouds, a life full earth planet.
my red salutes to the author of "Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment", may red flowers hurt u, i know u like the hurt of flowers more then the hurt of guns... and after that i m praying for ur life full of the functions which eat industry, industrialists, and produce jungles, animals, fishes, clouds, a life full earth planet.
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to kill industrialist we first mesh its weapons like computers
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There were two major switch-overs in human history.........Hunter_Gatherer Stage to Agrarian Stage........And Agrarian Stage to Industrial Stage.fahad hussain wrote:,,,, lets pray and produce rays of our souls so that all the machinery, industrialization, computers including satellites and space crafts become the part of the same earth planet after meshing, ....... we are with u o our great jungles, animals, fishes, we hate dirty humans. which now only know to destroy, not produce life.
Hunter_Gatherer Society was least destructive.......Agrarian Society was hundreds/ thousands times more destructive.......Industrial Society is millions of times more destructive.
The first switchover may very well be excused but not the second one.......When man switched over from Hunter_Gatherer Stage to Agrarian Stage he was not aware of the small size of our planet and the limited resources it contained........But when man switched over from Agrarian Stage to Industrial Stage it was sheer lunacy of people who started and promoted Industrial Activity all over the world despite having a fair knowledge of the small size of planet and the limited natural resources.
This planet is just 40,000 km in circumference.......It is very small......It can sustain a Hunter_Gatherer Society or Agrarian Society...... Not an Industrial Society.
Hunter_Gatherer Society destroyed environment only for food.......Agrarian Society destroyed environment primarily for food, clothing and shelter........That is the limit on this planet......This planet cannot sustain an Industrial Society which destroys environment for "thousands of consumer goods and services" in addition to food, clothing and shelter.
Industrial Activity for production of "thousands of consumer goods and services" must stop immediately.
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Story of Pseudo Environmentalism in Industrial Society.
A Serial Killer with endless supply of ammunition goes on the rampage in the city.....The Police are informed.....They arrive on the scene.....They do not try to stop or capture the shooter.....They do not try to kill or incapacitate the shooter.....They allow him to continue shooting......They give him full liberty to move around all over the city.
The Police focus on the victims of shooting.....They take them to Hospitals and try to save them with the help of best Technology / Health Care.....The Government sets up thousands of Organizations to do research on how the Whites can be saved, How the Blacks can be saved, How the Asians can be saved, How the Young can be saved, How the Elderly can be saved.....The Government gives Billions of Dollars of Grant to "Think Tanks" and NGO's to find out how the victims can be saved.....People of the city engage in Billions of pages of Discussion, Debate and Argument to find a solution to the problem.
This is not the story of the Mass Shooter.....This is the story of Environmentalism in Industrial Society.
Environment is being destroyed by Industrial Activity........Environmental Activists and Organizations are trying to save environment without stopping Industrial Activity
One group is trying to save Forests......The second group is trying to save Rivers......The third group is trying to save Oceans......The fourth group is trying to make the Air clean......The fifth group is trying to save Tigers and Elephants......The sixth group is trying to save Whales and Dolphins.
Industrial Technology has destroyed environment........Industrial Society is trying to save environment by changing the Technology.
Bring this Technology, Bring that Technology........Bring this Technology, Bring that Technology.
Height of Insanity and Abnormality......This is like trying to save a victim of shooting not by stopping the shooting but by changing the gun.
People who are trying to save environment in Industrial Society without stopping all Industrial Activity deserve the Nobel Prize for Lunacy.
Why don't people realize the futility and absurdity of their efforts......It is impossible to save animals, trees, air, water and land without stopping all Industrial Activity.
What is the point in saving a few Dogs, Cats, Whales, Tigers and Elephants when Industrial Society is killing billions of animals in Industrial Slaughter Houses and billions of Wild Animals in Forests by destroying Forests with Industrial Activities like Mining Industry, Logging Industry, Construction Industry, Energy Generation Industry, Manufacturing Industry, millions of kilometers of Rail and Road Networks and ever expanding Towns and Cities.......Industrial Society is also killing billions of fish in the oceans with Industrial Fishing and through discharge of billions of tonnes of Industrial Waste into oceans which has made them poisonous, acidic, warmer and created oxygen-deprived dead zones in the oceans.
It is impossible to save Air, water and Land without stopping all Industrial Activity because Industrial Activity is killing them with trillions of tonnes of Metal waste, Plastic waste, Gaseous waste, Chemical waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste.......Industrial Activity produces trillions of tonnes of Solid, Liquid and Gaseous Waste and there are only three places on earth where all this waste can go....Air, water and Soil.....There is no fourth place on earth where this waste can go...... It is impossible for Rivers, Oceans, Atmosphere and Soil to be clean in Industrial Society.
This planet can only sustain a Hunter_Gatherer Society or an Agrarian Society......Not an Industrial Society.
All Environmentalism is Pseudo-Environmentalism in Industrial Society.......It is impossible to save environment in an Industrial Society.
People who pretend they are saving environment in Industrial Society are even more insane, abnormal and criminal than people who are destroying the environment.
It is impossible to save environment in Industrial Society because Industrialization itself is the cause of environmental destruction.........In a non-industrial society environmentalism was not even needed.......In the absence of Industrial Activity environment got saved automatically because only limited destruction of environment was possible without Industrial Machines.
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Environment has been destroyed by Industrial Activity........Trying to save environment without stopping Industrial Activity is like ..
Trying to save a victim of shooting by shooting him even more.
Trying to save a victim of stabbing by stabbing him even more.
Trying to save a victim of poisoning by giving him even more poison.
Height of Insanity, Abnormality and Criminality.......You cannot save environment by destroying more of it.
Industrial Society has been destroying Extra environment for 250 years........It has been destroying environment for "thousands of consumer goods and services" in addition to food, clothing and shelter.
You cannot save a person after killing him.......You cannot save environment after it has been killed by Industrial Activity.
The entire Industrial Society deserves the Nobel Prize for Lunacy for pretending that environment is getting saved when the reality is that Industrial Society has been destroying extra environment after industrialization and has destroyed so much extra environment in 250 years that there is hardly any environment left to save.
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What is the Result of 50 years of Environmentalism/ Pseudo Environmentalism in Industrial Society???
Industrial Society has been killing millions of times more Animals, Trees, Air, Water and Land than Pre-Industrial Society every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing millions of acres of Forests with Industrial Activity every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing Billions of Animals in Industrial Slaughter Houses every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing millions of Wild Animals by destroying the Forests where they live with Industrial Activity every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing Air, Water and Soil with billions of tonnes of Solid, Liquid and Gaseous Industrial Waste every day for several decades.....Industrial Society has been killing Rivers, Oceans, Air/ Atmosphere and Soil/ Land with Billions of Tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic waste, Gaseous waste, Chemical Waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing Millions of Acres of Fertile Soil with Cement, Concrete and Asphalt every day for several decades.
All this Killing / Destruction was absent in Pre-Industrial Society without any Environmentalism.
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All Environmentalism in Industrial Society is Pseudo Environmentalism.
No environment is getting saved in Industrial Society.....Not an iota of environment is getting saved.
How can environment ever be saved in Industrial Society when Industrial Activity itself is the cause of environmental destruction....Environment can only be saved in a Non-Industrial Society.
Industrial Society has created hundreds of unnecessary / futile occupations to solve the problems created by Industrialization.....Environmental Activism is one of them.....If thousands of organizations and millions of activists are trying to save environment in Industrial Society it does not mean that environment is getting saved…..There have been three human societies on earth .....Hunter_Gatherer, Agrarian and Industrial.....In Hunter_Gatherer Society there was no Urban Population, entire population was engaged in searching for food.....In Agrarian Society less than 2% of population was Urban, Most of the population was engaged in producing food.....In Industrial Society 50% of world population is producing food for entire population , the remaining 50% population is Urban which has created hundreds of unnecessary occupations to keep itself occupied..... People would go crazy without work…. Environmentalism / Environmental Activism is one such profession [occupation]......[Other unnecessary and destructive professions in Industrial Society include Manufacturing and Marketing of thousands of consumer goods and services, Jobs in Tourism Industry, Entertainment Industry, Sports Industry, Military Industrial Complex and several other jobs]....No Environmentalism was needed in Hunter_Gatherer and Agrarian Societies because in the absence of Industrial Activity only limited destruction of environment was possible, so environment got saved automatically.
If billions of pages of environmental discussion is taking place in Industrial Society it does not mean that environment is getting saved......Endless Discussion, Debate and Argument is a Disease and Insanity of Industrial Society that invented the Printing Press, Radio, Television and Internet.....Animal Species and Hunter_Gatherer Society did not save environment through discussion.....They didn't even have a language for discussion…..Billions of pages of Discussion, Debate and Argument is another harmful waste of Industrial Society just like Billions of Tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic Waste, Chemical waste, Gaseous Waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste.
All Environmentalism in Industrial Society is Pseudo Environmentalism.
No environment is getting saved in Industrial Society.....Not an iota of environment is getting saved.
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The one and only cause of environmental destruction is Industrialization.
Overpopulation and Overconsumerism are consequences / by-products of Industrialization.
Without Industrialization there would be no overpopulation and no overconsumerism.
Industrialization, Overpopulation and Overconsumerism happen together.......Industrialization, Overpopulation and Overconsumerism happen at the same time.
It is Industrialization that has led to a population of 7 billion.....Not overbreeding.
The entire world was overbreeding before Industrialization.....The entire world is underbreeding after Industrialization.
There used to be 5 - 15 children per family all over the world before Industrialization and yet world population reached only 1 billion till 1800 AD......After Industrialization the family size reduced drastically, most families are now having 1 - 4 children and yet world population jumped from 1 billion to 7 billion in just about 200 years.
If Industrialization had not happened world population would be less than 2 billion today.
India and China have large populations today because they started with larger populations thousands of years ago since ancient civilizations thrived in these regions.....What was the population of Europe and America 2000 years ago????.....Was it comparable with the population of India and China???? .....And once again, In the absence of Industrialization India and China would not be having large populations today.
If Industrialization had not happened, High death rate would have kept population of the world under control....Diseases caused by virus and bacteria would have kept population under control.....Feeding capacity of soil would have kept population under control....Shortage of food and water would have kept population under control.....Harsh Climatic Conditions would have kept population under control - People would not have been able to live in regions that are too hot or too cold.
If Industrialization had not happened this planet would have been in very good condition today.....There would be no overpopulation, no overconsumerism and only limited urbanization.
A Non-Industrial Society would have destroyed some ecosystems on the land [Forests] but Marine Ecology [Oceans] would have been almost 100% safe today......Forest Cover would be much greater than what it is now....Millions of species on the land and in the sea would not have been decimated and would be thriving with very healthy populations......This planet would be free of Billions of Tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic Waste, Chemical waste, Gaseous Waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste.....The Oceans wouldn't have become Acidic, Warmer and Oxygen Deprived because of Industrial Waste.
It is consumerism that destroys environment, Not population.
A Hunter_Gatherer Society of 7 billion would have destroyed very little environment...... because it would have destroyed environment only for food......not for thousands of consumer goods and services.
An Agrarian Society of 7 billion would have destroyed very little environment [compared to an Industrial Society of 7 billion]...... because it would have destroyed environment only for food, clothing and shelter.......not for thousands of consumer goods and services.
[By the way, A Hunter_Gatherer Society would have never reached a population of 7 billion......An Agrarian Society would have never reached a population of 7 billion]
Environment has been destroyed by Industrialization/ Consumerism…….Not by Population/ Overpopulation.
Total World Population has not increased ……It has decreased……In fact total world population has been decimated.
When we talk about population we should take into account population of all animal species on earth, not just human population.
Industrial Society has decimated millions of Animal Species……Increase in human population has coincided with decrease/ decimation of millions of animal species.... The total burden of population on this planet has not increased…..It has decreased.
Industrial Society has decimated millions of other species......There was a time when the combined population of other animal species was much greater than present human population.....and we don't even need to include smaller animals in this count.....The combined population of big animals alone whose size and weight was equivalent to or greater than man was much greater than current human population of 7 billion.
The amount of food this animal population was eating was much greater than the food consumed by humans today.......Yet millions of animal species did not destroy environment and lived sustainably on earth for millions of years......because they destroyed environment only for food and not for thousands of consumer goods and services.
If animals had started a consumerist "Industrial Society" millions of years ago they would have destroyed all ecosystems millions of years ago.
The entire world has been trying to control human population for 50 years and these efforts should / will continue in future.....so where is the problem with population?????
It is so ridiculous of Industrial Society to complain about overpopulation when it itself is the cause of overpopulation......It is so ridiculous of Industrial Society to make attempts to control population while promoting Consumerism, Growth Rate, Economy Rate and GDP exponentially.
This planet can only sustain a Non-Industrial Society.
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If Urban Society stops all its supplies to Villages......Electricity, Oil, Machinery and Equipment, Villagers will survive forever.
If Villages stop all their supplies to Cities......Food Grains and Vegetables, Urban Population will die within a month.
[ Villagers need Electricity, Oil, Machinery and Equipment to produce food for the Urban Population , They would not need these things to produce food for themselves]
Urban Population is engaged in Unnecessary Work, Meaningless Work, Futile Work and Destructive Work which has led to destruction of most of the Biodiversity and Ecosystems on earth.
For millions of years "Searching For Food" / "Producing Food" were the primary occupations of almost the entire human population in Hunter_Gatherer and Agrarian Society.
There is Zero chance of saving the little environment that is left without fixing the problem of "Urban Population".
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Animal Species had Zero Percent Urban Population.......Hunter_Gatherer Society had Zero Percent Urban Population.......Agrarian Society had less than Two Percent Urban Population.......All these societies sustained for millions of years collectively.
The current Industrial Society which has 50% Urban Population worldwide has destroyed most of the Biodiversity and Ecosystems in just 250 years after Industrial Revolution.......Industrial Activity has been promoted by Urban Population......Industrial Activity has been promoted by people who do not produce food.
This planet can sustain Animal Species.....It can sustain Hunter_Gatherer Human Society......It can sustain Agrarian Human Society......It cannot sustain Industrial Human Society.
This planet can only sustain food producing societies where almost the entire population is engaged in food production......It cannot sustain an Industrial Society where 50% of world population is growing food for entire population and the remaining 50% living in cities is promoting Industrial Activity.
Animals saved environment for millions of years because they destroyed it only for food.....Hunter_Gatherer Society saved environment because it destroyed environment only for food.....Agrarian Society saved environment because it destroyed environment only for food, clothing and shelter.
Industrial Society has destroyed most of the Biodiversity and Ecosystems because it destroyed environment for "Thousands of consumer goods and services" in addition to food, clothing and shelter.
In the Animal Kingdom, Hunter_Gatherer Society and Agrarian Society almost the entire population was engaged in "Searching for Food" / "Growing Food".
It is the Urban Population that is engaged in and promoting Industrial Activity ......Mining Industry, Logging Industry, Energy Generation Industry, Manufacturing Industry, Transportation Industry, Construction Industry, Recycling Industry, Oil Drilling, Oil Refining, Millions of kilometers of Rail & Road network, Air Routes and Shipping Lanes…..They all destroy environment......All Industrial Activity must be stopped.
Food, clothing and shelter......These are the maximum number of things this planet can provide to humans......The only way to save the remaining environment is by reorganizing the entire population so that food production remains the only primary activity just like it was for millions of years before Industrialization.
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This planet cannot sustain an Industrial / Urban Society......The problem is not Capitalism, The problem is Industrialization / Urbanization.......The solution is not Communism or Socialism, The solution is Non-Industrial / Non-Urban Society.
Capitalism, Communism or Socialism does not matter at all........What matters is percentage of Urban Population......A Socialist Industrial Society with 80% Urban Population will be as Harmful, Destructive and Evil as a Capitalist Industrial Society with 80% Urban Population...... A Communist Industrial Society with 80% Urban Population will be as Harmful, Destructive and Evil as a Capitalist Industrial Society with 80% Urban Population.
Urban Population is responsible for consumerism.......Urban Population does not produce Food.....It produces thousands of Consumer Goods and Services.
Consumerism is directly proportional to Percentage of Urban Population.
Saving environment in Industrial Society is an impossibility......No Industrial Society can save environment.......Communist or Socialist Industrial Societies cannot be less destructive than Capitalist Industrial Societies.
There cannot be any sustainable Industrial Society........The fault does not lie in Capitalism.....The fault lies in Industrialization.....All Industrial Societies are the same.....All Industrial Societies are equally harmful, destructive and evil.
Destruction of environment is guaranteed in Industrial Society......The debate over Capitalism, Communism and Socialism in the context of Environmental Crisis is meaningless and absurd.
Industrialization , Urbanization and Consumerism go hand in hand......They happen together.
Today 50% of world population is Urban, living in cities...... 50% of world population is producing food for entire population and the remaining 50% population living in Cities is primarily engaged in production and marketing of thousands of consumer goods and services........Urban population is not producing food, it is producing consumer goods and services.......Even if the entire world is made Communist or Socialist it is not going to bring about any change in consumerism because the percentage of Urban Population will remain the same and it will continue producing and marketing thousands of consumer goods and services.
In America 90 - 95% of population is Urban......That is why consumerism is so rampant in the US......Even if America is made Communist or Socialist it is not going to reduce consumerism because the percentage of Urban Population would still remain the same.
In Europe 80 - 90% of population is Urban.
In China and India consumerism has risen exponentially with the increase in percentage of Urban Population.
Capitalism, Communism or Socialism does not matter.......What matters is Industrialization and Urbanization which results in Consumerism.
This planet cannot sustain Industrial Urban Population.......This planet cannot sustain a society that does not produce its own food.
This planet can sustain a Hunter_Gatherer Society or an Agrarian Society where almost the entire population is engaged in "searching for food" / producing food......This planet cannot sustain an Industrial Society where 50% of population is producing food for entire population and the remaining 50% population is producing thousands of consumer goods and services.
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Industrial Society has existed for barely 250 years which comes to almost Zero Percent of Total Human Existence on earth....Humans have spent more than 99.99% of their time on earth in Non-Industrial Societies [Hunter_Gatherer and Agrarian].....Industrial Society is an Anomaly....Only Non-Industrial Societies are sustainable.
A pure non-industrial society is not possible now because Industrialization has increased world population to 7 billion.......World population increased from 1 billion in 1800 to 7 billion in just about 200 years after industrialization.......In the absence of industrialization world population would have been less than 2 billion today.
If we want to save the remaining environment we must minimize the things that are destroying environment.
At present we are destroying environment for Food, Clothing, Shelter plus Thousands of Industrial consumer goods and services.
We must eliminate the things that were added last to the list......which means Thousands of consumer goods and services, most of which have existed for only about 100 years out of Hundreds of Thousands of years of Total Human Existence on earth .........these have to be eliminated or minimized.
We are approaching Environmental Apocalypse.......The only way to save the remaining environment is by stopping Industrial Activity for production of consumer goods and services immediately........Industrial Activity must be primarily limited to food, clothing and shelter.......and even in these three fields production and consumption must be kept to the minimum.
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A Serial Killer with endless supply of ammunition goes on the rampage in the city.....The Police are informed.....They arrive on the scene.....They do not try to stop or capture the shooter.....They do not try to kill or incapacitate the shooter.....They allow him to continue shooting......They give him full liberty to move around all over the city.
The Police focus on the victims of shooting.....They take them to Hospitals and try to save them with the help of best Technology / Health Care.....The Government sets up thousands of Organizations to do research on how the Whites can be saved, How the Blacks can be saved, How the Asians can be saved, How the Young can be saved, How the Elderly can be saved.....The Government gives Billions of Dollars of Grant to "Think Tanks" and NGO's to find out how the victims can be saved.....People of the city engage in Billions of pages of Discussion, Debate and Argument to find a solution to the problem.
This is not the story of the Mass Shooter.....This is the story of Environmentalism in Industrial Society.
Environment is being destroyed by Industrial Activity........Environmental Activists and Organizations are trying to save environment without stopping Industrial Activity
One group is trying to save Forests......The second group is trying to save Rivers......The third group is trying to save Oceans......The fourth group is trying to make the Air clean......The fifth group is trying to save Tigers and Elephants......The sixth group is trying to save Whales and Dolphins.
Industrial Technology has destroyed environment........Industrial Society is trying to save environment by changing the Technology.
Bring this Technology, Bring that Technology........Bring this Technology, Bring that Technology.
Height of Insanity and Abnormality......This is like trying to save a victim of shooting not by stopping the shooting but by changing the gun.
People who are trying to save environment in Industrial Society without stopping all Industrial Activity deserve the Nobel Prize for Lunacy.
Why don't people realize the futility and absurdity of their efforts......It is impossible to save animals, trees, air, water and land without stopping all Industrial Activity.
What is the point in saving a few Dogs, Cats, Whales, Tigers and Elephants when Industrial Society is killing billions of animals in Industrial Slaughter Houses and billions of Wild Animals in Forests by destroying Forests with Industrial Activities like Mining Industry, Logging Industry, Construction Industry, Energy Generation Industry, Manufacturing Industry, millions of kilometers of Rail and Road Networks and ever expanding Towns and Cities.......Industrial Society is also killing billions of fish in the oceans with Industrial Fishing and through discharge of billions of tonnes of Industrial Waste into oceans which has made them poisonous, acidic, warmer and created oxygen-deprived dead zones in the oceans.
It is impossible to save Air, water and Land without stopping all Industrial Activity because Industrial Activity is killing them with trillions of tonnes of Metal waste, Plastic waste, Gaseous waste, Chemical waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste.......Industrial Activity produces trillions of tonnes of Solid, Liquid and Gaseous Waste and there are only three places on earth where all this waste can go....Air, water and Soil.....There is no fourth place on earth where this waste can go...... It is impossible for Rivers, Oceans, Atmosphere and Soil to be clean in Industrial Society.
This planet can only sustain a Hunter_Gatherer Society or an Agrarian Society......Not an Industrial Society.
All Environmentalism is Pseudo-Environmentalism in Industrial Society.......It is impossible to save environment in an Industrial Society.
People who pretend they are saving environment in Industrial Society are even more insane, abnormal and criminal than people who are destroying the environment.
It is impossible to save environment in Industrial Society because Industrialization itself is the cause of environmental destruction.........In a non-industrial society environmentalism was not even needed.......In the absence of Industrial Activity environment got saved automatically because only limited destruction of environment was possible without Industrial Machines.
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Environment has been destroyed by Industrial Activity........Trying to save environment without stopping Industrial Activity is like ..
Trying to save a victim of shooting by shooting him even more.
Trying to save a victim of stabbing by stabbing him even more.
Trying to save a victim of poisoning by giving him even more poison.
Height of Insanity, Abnormality and Criminality.......You cannot save environment by destroying more of it.
Industrial Society has been destroying Extra environment for 250 years........It has been destroying environment for "thousands of consumer goods and services" in addition to food, clothing and shelter.
You cannot save a person after killing him.......You cannot save environment after it has been killed by Industrial Activity.
The entire Industrial Society deserves the Nobel Prize for Lunacy for pretending that environment is getting saved when the reality is that Industrial Society has been destroying extra environment after industrialization and has destroyed so much extra environment in 250 years that there is hardly any environment left to save.
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What is the Result of 50 years of Environmentalism/ Pseudo Environmentalism in Industrial Society???
Industrial Society has been killing millions of times more Animals, Trees, Air, Water and Land than Pre-Industrial Society every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing millions of acres of Forests with Industrial Activity every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing Billions of Animals in Industrial Slaughter Houses every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing millions of Wild Animals by destroying the Forests where they live with Industrial Activity every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing Air, Water and Soil with billions of tonnes of Solid, Liquid and Gaseous Industrial Waste every day for several decades.....Industrial Society has been killing Rivers, Oceans, Air/ Atmosphere and Soil/ Land with Billions of Tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic waste, Gaseous waste, Chemical Waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste every day for several decades.
Industrial Society has been killing Millions of Acres of Fertile Soil with Cement, Concrete and Asphalt every day for several decades.
All this Killing / Destruction was absent in Pre-Industrial Society without any Environmentalism.
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All Environmentalism in Industrial Society is Pseudo Environmentalism.
No environment is getting saved in Industrial Society.....Not an iota of environment is getting saved.
How can environment ever be saved in Industrial Society when Industrial Activity itself is the cause of environmental destruction....Environment can only be saved in a Non-Industrial Society.
Industrial Society has created hundreds of unnecessary / futile occupations to solve the problems created by Industrialization.....Environmental Activism is one of them.....If thousands of organizations and millions of activists are trying to save environment in Industrial Society it does not mean that environment is getting saved…..There have been three human societies on earth .....Hunter_Gatherer, Agrarian and Industrial.....In Hunter_Gatherer Society there was no Urban Population, entire population was engaged in searching for food.....In Agrarian Society less than 2% of population was Urban, Most of the population was engaged in producing food.....In Industrial Society 50% of world population is producing food for entire population , the remaining 50% population is Urban which has created hundreds of unnecessary occupations to keep itself occupied..... People would go crazy without work…. Environmentalism / Environmental Activism is one such profession [occupation]......[Other unnecessary and destructive professions in Industrial Society include Manufacturing and Marketing of thousands of consumer goods and services, Jobs in Tourism Industry, Entertainment Industry, Sports Industry, Military Industrial Complex and several other jobs]....No Environmentalism was needed in Hunter_Gatherer and Agrarian Societies because in the absence of Industrial Activity only limited destruction of environment was possible, so environment got saved automatically.
If billions of pages of environmental discussion is taking place in Industrial Society it does not mean that environment is getting saved......Endless Discussion, Debate and Argument is a Disease and Insanity of Industrial Society that invented the Printing Press, Radio, Television and Internet.....Animal Species and Hunter_Gatherer Society did not save environment through discussion.....They didn't even have a language for discussion…..Billions of pages of Discussion, Debate and Argument is another harmful waste of Industrial Society just like Billions of Tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic Waste, Chemical waste, Gaseous Waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste.
All Environmentalism in Industrial Society is Pseudo Environmentalism.
No environment is getting saved in Industrial Society.....Not an iota of environment is getting saved.
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The one and only cause of environmental destruction is Industrialization.
Overpopulation and Overconsumerism are consequences / by-products of Industrialization.
Without Industrialization there would be no overpopulation and no overconsumerism.
Industrialization, Overpopulation and Overconsumerism happen together.......Industrialization, Overpopulation and Overconsumerism happen at the same time.
It is Industrialization that has led to a population of 7 billion.....Not overbreeding.
The entire world was overbreeding before Industrialization.....The entire world is underbreeding after Industrialization.
There used to be 5 - 15 children per family all over the world before Industrialization and yet world population reached only 1 billion till 1800 AD......After Industrialization the family size reduced drastically, most families are now having 1 - 4 children and yet world population jumped from 1 billion to 7 billion in just about 200 years.
If Industrialization had not happened world population would be less than 2 billion today.
India and China have large populations today because they started with larger populations thousands of years ago since ancient civilizations thrived in these regions.....What was the population of Europe and America 2000 years ago????.....Was it comparable with the population of India and China???? .....And once again, In the absence of Industrialization India and China would not be having large populations today.
If Industrialization had not happened, High death rate would have kept population of the world under control....Diseases caused by virus and bacteria would have kept population under control.....Feeding capacity of soil would have kept population under control....Shortage of food and water would have kept population under control.....Harsh Climatic Conditions would have kept population under control - People would not have been able to live in regions that are too hot or too cold.
If Industrialization had not happened this planet would have been in very good condition today.....There would be no overpopulation, no overconsumerism and only limited urbanization.
A Non-Industrial Society would have destroyed some ecosystems on the land [Forests] but Marine Ecology [Oceans] would have been almost 100% safe today......Forest Cover would be much greater than what it is now....Millions of species on the land and in the sea would not have been decimated and would be thriving with very healthy populations......This planet would be free of Billions of Tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic Waste, Chemical waste, Gaseous Waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste.....The Oceans wouldn't have become Acidic, Warmer and Oxygen Deprived because of Industrial Waste.
It is consumerism that destroys environment, Not population.
A Hunter_Gatherer Society of 7 billion would have destroyed very little environment...... because it would have destroyed environment only for food......not for thousands of consumer goods and services.
An Agrarian Society of 7 billion would have destroyed very little environment [compared to an Industrial Society of 7 billion]...... because it would have destroyed environment only for food, clothing and shelter.......not for thousands of consumer goods and services.
[By the way, A Hunter_Gatherer Society would have never reached a population of 7 billion......An Agrarian Society would have never reached a population of 7 billion]
Environment has been destroyed by Industrialization/ Consumerism…….Not by Population/ Overpopulation.
Total World Population has not increased ……It has decreased……In fact total world population has been decimated.
When we talk about population we should take into account population of all animal species on earth, not just human population.
Industrial Society has decimated millions of Animal Species……Increase in human population has coincided with decrease/ decimation of millions of animal species.... The total burden of population on this planet has not increased…..It has decreased.
Industrial Society has decimated millions of other species......There was a time when the combined population of other animal species was much greater than present human population.....and we don't even need to include smaller animals in this count.....The combined population of big animals alone whose size and weight was equivalent to or greater than man was much greater than current human population of 7 billion.
The amount of food this animal population was eating was much greater than the food consumed by humans today.......Yet millions of animal species did not destroy environment and lived sustainably on earth for millions of years......because they destroyed environment only for food and not for thousands of consumer goods and services.
If animals had started a consumerist "Industrial Society" millions of years ago they would have destroyed all ecosystems millions of years ago.
The entire world has been trying to control human population for 50 years and these efforts should / will continue in future.....so where is the problem with population?????
It is so ridiculous of Industrial Society to complain about overpopulation when it itself is the cause of overpopulation......It is so ridiculous of Industrial Society to make attempts to control population while promoting Consumerism, Growth Rate, Economy Rate and GDP exponentially.
This planet can only sustain a Non-Industrial Society.
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If Urban Society stops all its supplies to Villages......Electricity, Oil, Machinery and Equipment, Villagers will survive forever.
If Villages stop all their supplies to Cities......Food Grains and Vegetables, Urban Population will die within a month.
[ Villagers need Electricity, Oil, Machinery and Equipment to produce food for the Urban Population , They would not need these things to produce food for themselves]
Urban Population is engaged in Unnecessary Work, Meaningless Work, Futile Work and Destructive Work which has led to destruction of most of the Biodiversity and Ecosystems on earth.
For millions of years "Searching For Food" / "Producing Food" were the primary occupations of almost the entire human population in Hunter_Gatherer and Agrarian Society.
There is Zero chance of saving the little environment that is left without fixing the problem of "Urban Population".
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Animal Species had Zero Percent Urban Population.......Hunter_Gatherer Society had Zero Percent Urban Population.......Agrarian Society had less than Two Percent Urban Population.......All these societies sustained for millions of years collectively.
The current Industrial Society which has 50% Urban Population worldwide has destroyed most of the Biodiversity and Ecosystems in just 250 years after Industrial Revolution.......Industrial Activity has been promoted by Urban Population......Industrial Activity has been promoted by people who do not produce food.
This planet can sustain Animal Species.....It can sustain Hunter_Gatherer Human Society......It can sustain Agrarian Human Society......It cannot sustain Industrial Human Society.
This planet can only sustain food producing societies where almost the entire population is engaged in food production......It cannot sustain an Industrial Society where 50% of world population is growing food for entire population and the remaining 50% living in cities is promoting Industrial Activity.
Animals saved environment for millions of years because they destroyed it only for food.....Hunter_Gatherer Society saved environment because it destroyed environment only for food.....Agrarian Society saved environment because it destroyed environment only for food, clothing and shelter.
Industrial Society has destroyed most of the Biodiversity and Ecosystems because it destroyed environment for "Thousands of consumer goods and services" in addition to food, clothing and shelter.
In the Animal Kingdom, Hunter_Gatherer Society and Agrarian Society almost the entire population was engaged in "Searching for Food" / "Growing Food".
It is the Urban Population that is engaged in and promoting Industrial Activity ......Mining Industry, Logging Industry, Energy Generation Industry, Manufacturing Industry, Transportation Industry, Construction Industry, Recycling Industry, Oil Drilling, Oil Refining, Millions of kilometers of Rail & Road network, Air Routes and Shipping Lanes…..They all destroy environment......All Industrial Activity must be stopped.
Food, clothing and shelter......These are the maximum number of things this planet can provide to humans......The only way to save the remaining environment is by reorganizing the entire population so that food production remains the only primary activity just like it was for millions of years before Industrialization.
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This planet cannot sustain an Industrial / Urban Society......The problem is not Capitalism, The problem is Industrialization / Urbanization.......The solution is not Communism or Socialism, The solution is Non-Industrial / Non-Urban Society.
Capitalism, Communism or Socialism does not matter at all........What matters is percentage of Urban Population......A Socialist Industrial Society with 80% Urban Population will be as Harmful, Destructive and Evil as a Capitalist Industrial Society with 80% Urban Population...... A Communist Industrial Society with 80% Urban Population will be as Harmful, Destructive and Evil as a Capitalist Industrial Society with 80% Urban Population.
Urban Population is responsible for consumerism.......Urban Population does not produce Food.....It produces thousands of Consumer Goods and Services.
Consumerism is directly proportional to Percentage of Urban Population.
Saving environment in Industrial Society is an impossibility......No Industrial Society can save environment.......Communist or Socialist Industrial Societies cannot be less destructive than Capitalist Industrial Societies.
There cannot be any sustainable Industrial Society........The fault does not lie in Capitalism.....The fault lies in Industrialization.....All Industrial Societies are the same.....All Industrial Societies are equally harmful, destructive and evil.
Destruction of environment is guaranteed in Industrial Society......The debate over Capitalism, Communism and Socialism in the context of Environmental Crisis is meaningless and absurd.
Industrialization , Urbanization and Consumerism go hand in hand......They happen together.
Today 50% of world population is Urban, living in cities...... 50% of world population is producing food for entire population and the remaining 50% population living in Cities is primarily engaged in production and marketing of thousands of consumer goods and services........Urban population is not producing food, it is producing consumer goods and services.......Even if the entire world is made Communist or Socialist it is not going to bring about any change in consumerism because the percentage of Urban Population will remain the same and it will continue producing and marketing thousands of consumer goods and services.
In America 90 - 95% of population is Urban......That is why consumerism is so rampant in the US......Even if America is made Communist or Socialist it is not going to reduce consumerism because the percentage of Urban Population would still remain the same.
In Europe 80 - 90% of population is Urban.
In China and India consumerism has risen exponentially with the increase in percentage of Urban Population.
Capitalism, Communism or Socialism does not matter.......What matters is Industrialization and Urbanization which results in Consumerism.
This planet cannot sustain Industrial Urban Population.......This planet cannot sustain a society that does not produce its own food.
This planet can sustain a Hunter_Gatherer Society or an Agrarian Society where almost the entire population is engaged in "searching for food" / producing food......This planet cannot sustain an Industrial Society where 50% of population is producing food for entire population and the remaining 50% population is producing thousands of consumer goods and services.
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Industrial Society has existed for barely 250 years which comes to almost Zero Percent of Total Human Existence on earth....Humans have spent more than 99.99% of their time on earth in Non-Industrial Societies [Hunter_Gatherer and Agrarian].....Industrial Society is an Anomaly....Only Non-Industrial Societies are sustainable.
A pure non-industrial society is not possible now because Industrialization has increased world population to 7 billion.......World population increased from 1 billion in 1800 to 7 billion in just about 200 years after industrialization.......In the absence of industrialization world population would have been less than 2 billion today.
If we want to save the remaining environment we must minimize the things that are destroying environment.
At present we are destroying environment for Food, Clothing, Shelter plus Thousands of Industrial consumer goods and services.
We must eliminate the things that were added last to the list......which means Thousands of consumer goods and services, most of which have existed for only about 100 years out of Hundreds of Thousands of years of Total Human Existence on earth .........these have to be eliminated or minimized.
We are approaching Environmental Apocalypse.......The only way to save the remaining environment is by stopping Industrial Activity for production of consumer goods and services immediately........Industrial Activity must be primarily limited to food, clothing and shelter.......and even in these three fields production and consumption must be kept to the minimum.
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What do you suggest. In twenty words or less.
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The solution / answer has been known for millions of years.
You save environment the way it was saved for millions of years .......For millions of years the list of things that destroyed environment never exceeded food, clothing and shelter......Production of thousands of consumer goods and services must stop immediately.
You save environment the way it was saved for millions of years .......For millions of years the list of things that destroyed environment never exceeded food, clothing and shelter......Production of thousands of consumer goods and services must stop immediately.
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Can you give me some specific examples of what must be stopped?sushil_yadav wrote:The solution / answer has been known for millions of years.
You save environment the way it was saved for millions of years .......For millions of years the list of things that destroyed environment never exceeded food, clothing and shelter......Production of thousands of consumer goods and services must stop immediately.
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All problems of Industrial Society are unsolvable because Industrialization itself is the cause of problems.....Exponential increase in environmental destruction, incidence of cancer, obesity and war/ violence.......Industrialization is the cause of all these problems.
It is important to understand why millions of people are trying to solve all these problems when they can never be solved.
Here is the answer - Billions of people who are not producing food in Industrial Society have to be kept engaged in some work or activity....People would go crazy without work....Therefore unnecessary, meaningless, futile and destructive jobs and professions are created by Industrial Society to keep the Urban Population occupied.
In Hunter_Gatherer Society the entire population was engaged in searching for food.....In Agrarian Society almost the entire population was engaged in producing food [hardly 1 - 2% of population was not producing food].
In Industrial Society 50% of world population is growing food for entire population.....The remaining 50% population is engaged in extra, destructive and unnecessary work....[In America only 5% of population is producing food, That is why America is the Mother of all unnecessary and destructive work in this world].
The population that does not produce food is engaged in Production and Marketing of thousands of consumer goods and services, Tourism Industry, Entertainment Industry, Sports Industry, Military Industrial Complex and All kinds of unnecessary research.
Millions of people are doing unnecessary, meaningless and futile research in Industrial Society in hundreds of fields.
Millions of people in Industrial Society are trying to save Environment which is not possible because Industrial Activity itself is the cause of large scale environmental destruction.
Millions of people in Industrial Society are trying to cure Obesity which is impossible because Obesity is a result of Industrialization.....A result of the switch over from physical work to mental work and easy availability of billions of tonnes of ready-made food.
Millions of people in Industrial Society are trying to cure Cancer which is not possible because Industrialization itself is the cause of cancer.....Industrial Activity has contaminated air, water and soil with billions of tonnes of solid, liquid and gaseous carcinogens.
Millions of people in Industrial Society are working with Peace Organizations trying to make the world peaceful.....This is an impossibility because Military Industrial Complex is promoting war and violence by producing and selling billions of tonnes of weapons all over the world.
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Hundreds of professions and millions of jobs have been created in the name of solving the problems of Industrial Society.
The solutions will of course never come because Industrialization itself is the cause of problems.
Millions of people are happy because they are getting jobs and salaries......Governments are happy because they can claim they are doing all they can to solve global problems.
Meanwhile the problems continue getting bigger and bigger day by day, moment by moment.
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Industrial Society has destroyed most of the biodiversity and ecosystems on earth.
Industrialization was the biggest crime on earth....The biggest act of killing, murder and terrorism on earth.
This planet can only sustain "Food Searching" or "Food Producing" Societies.
Hunter_Gatherer Society was sustainable.....Agrarian Society was sustainable.....The question of Industrial Society being sustainable doesn't arise.
We cannot save environment by destroying more of it.....We cannot save environment by destroying it for thousands of consumer goods and services in addition to food, clothing and shelter.
Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment
It is important to understand why millions of people are trying to solve all these problems when they can never be solved.
Here is the answer - Billions of people who are not producing food in Industrial Society have to be kept engaged in some work or activity....People would go crazy without work....Therefore unnecessary, meaningless, futile and destructive jobs and professions are created by Industrial Society to keep the Urban Population occupied.
In Hunter_Gatherer Society the entire population was engaged in searching for food.....In Agrarian Society almost the entire population was engaged in producing food [hardly 1 - 2% of population was not producing food].
In Industrial Society 50% of world population is growing food for entire population.....The remaining 50% population is engaged in extra, destructive and unnecessary work....[In America only 5% of population is producing food, That is why America is the Mother of all unnecessary and destructive work in this world].
The population that does not produce food is engaged in Production and Marketing of thousands of consumer goods and services, Tourism Industry, Entertainment Industry, Sports Industry, Military Industrial Complex and All kinds of unnecessary research.
Millions of people are doing unnecessary, meaningless and futile research in Industrial Society in hundreds of fields.
Millions of people in Industrial Society are trying to save Environment which is not possible because Industrial Activity itself is the cause of large scale environmental destruction.
Millions of people in Industrial Society are trying to cure Obesity which is impossible because Obesity is a result of Industrialization.....A result of the switch over from physical work to mental work and easy availability of billions of tonnes of ready-made food.
Millions of people in Industrial Society are trying to cure Cancer which is not possible because Industrialization itself is the cause of cancer.....Industrial Activity has contaminated air, water and soil with billions of tonnes of solid, liquid and gaseous carcinogens.
Millions of people in Industrial Society are working with Peace Organizations trying to make the world peaceful.....This is an impossibility because Military Industrial Complex is promoting war and violence by producing and selling billions of tonnes of weapons all over the world.
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Hundreds of professions and millions of jobs have been created in the name of solving the problems of Industrial Society.
The solutions will of course never come because Industrialization itself is the cause of problems.
Millions of people are happy because they are getting jobs and salaries......Governments are happy because they can claim they are doing all they can to solve global problems.
Meanwhile the problems continue getting bigger and bigger day by day, moment by moment.
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Industrial Society has destroyed most of the biodiversity and ecosystems on earth.
Industrialization was the biggest crime on earth....The biggest act of killing, murder and terrorism on earth.
This planet can only sustain "Food Searching" or "Food Producing" Societies.
Hunter_Gatherer Society was sustainable.....Agrarian Society was sustainable.....The question of Industrial Society being sustainable doesn't arise.
We cannot save environment by destroying more of it.....We cannot save environment by destroying it for thousands of consumer goods and services in addition to food, clothing and shelter.
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Industrial society gives people the things it wants beyond a subsistence level of living. Good luck trying to get back to the dust bin of history, my friend.
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Man is not the only inhabitant of this planet......This planet is home to millions of other species too.....It is not the play ground of the human species which can do anything it wants.....Welfare of millions of other species has to be kept in mind.
Industrial Society has destroyed most of the biodiversity and ecosystems on earth.
Industrialization was the biggest crime on earth....The biggest act of killing, murder and terrorism on earth.
This planet can only sustain "Food Searching" or "Food Producing" Societies.
Hunter_Gatherer Society was sustainable.....Agrarian Society was sustainable.....The question of Industrial Society being sustainable doesn't arise.
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Millions of other species destroy environment only for food.
Human species is the only lunatic species that has destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter and thousands of consumer goods and services.
One does not need to do research for 10,000 years to know what is wrong with human lifestyle.....It is so very obvious and crystal clear.
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Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment
Industrial Society has destroyed most of the biodiversity and ecosystems on earth.
Industrialization was the biggest crime on earth....The biggest act of killing, murder and terrorism on earth.
This planet can only sustain "Food Searching" or "Food Producing" Societies.
Hunter_Gatherer Society was sustainable.....Agrarian Society was sustainable.....The question of Industrial Society being sustainable doesn't arise.
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Millions of other species destroy environment only for food.
Human species is the only lunatic species that has destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter and thousands of consumer goods and services.
One does not need to do research for 10,000 years to know what is wrong with human lifestyle.....It is so very obvious and crystal clear.
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Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment