Black People and Crime

[SpheresOfBalance]

I thought you interested in truths? As such I thought you'd be interested in what the evolutionary biologists are thinking about.
I could care less, about those people.

Once again your emotions gush all over the place and you contradict yourself, you say you came to these conclusions yourself and then mention gathering it through education and then, dear oh dear, 'intuition'.
No just didn't tell the whole story cause it would take to long. Education of various things that I then linked together of my own fruition.

Well I've just given you some more education, whats the issue?
Because I hate it when people's only motive is to take things from me, I did it, god damn it, you nor anyone else has anything to do with it, fuck you! God, it's hard to type when you're laughing! So was I really pissed, or did it help to make my point?

I also thought you'd like to not be promoting and talking nonsense about blood-lines and black forefathers, etc.
It was a point worth making, I could care less how you or NE1 else sees it.

If its only a small percentage to do with our differences what makes the big percentage?
Some more than others, together, big!

[chaz wyman]

... start along side the forefathers of the blacks of today doing as they did through all those thousands of years such that your blood line would be exactly the same as them, ...

Whilst I get your analogy I'd just point out that there is no such thing as a 'blood line' and the forefathers of the blacks are our forefathers as well. Its easier to say that the reason why there is white skin is that their black forefathers lost their melanin content due to natural selection 'selecting' lighter skins for increased vitamin D absorption from the weaker sunlight. But this is just a theory and there are variations including that agriculture was involved as the lack of game meat led to a vitamin deficiency - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people#White_skin

This Vitamin D shit is pure Darwinitis. Fact is that black people don' have any problems with this in cold climate, and black skin distribution is not confined to sunny countries.
It's obvious enough that black people have more protection against the sun, but that does not suggest a positive advantage in less sunny land for white skin. White skin is more probably the result of domestic/sexual selection. Most Indo-European cultures have seen white skin as higher status due to the fact that mainly working/farming types get a tan; white skin is only found on ladies and gentlemen who stay indoors until the evening. This white skin was an obsession throughout ancient times till the 20thC when sun tans were sought after. White skin /blue blood was for the rich. Darkness of skin was seen as plebeian.
There si nothing more powerful for variation than domestic/sexual selection.

The vit D idea is pure teleological fallacy.

[Arising_uk]

I stand corrected as the domestication argument does appear the more likely, that and then just reproduction.

A quick goggle does show that this theory is erroneous as whilst there appears to be millions of pages promoting it I can find little hard evidence of any hard research that could not be explained by a racist bias or agenda.

Damn that wiki!

[Arising_uk]

Because I hate it when people's only motive is to take things from me, I did it, god damn it, you nor anyone else has anything to do with it, fuck you! God, it's hard to type when you're laughing! So was I really pissed, or did it help to make my point?

So why did you do it if you did not think I was taking things from you?

[chaz wyman]

I stand corrected as the domestication argument does appear the more likely, that and then just reproduction.

A quick goggle does show that this theory is erroneous as whilst there appears to be millions of pages promoting it I can find little hard evidence of any hard research that could not be explained by a racist bias or agenda.

Damn that wiki!

There is definitely a tendency to find ANY so-called "selective" advantage and demand that it is THE REASON why a trait is present regardless of research or common sense.
I wonder if you have been following the PN radio podcast?
The Raymond Tallis edition is rather good on Darwinitis and Neuromania.

[Clinias]

Here is a blog that just concentrates on Black on White crime.

The Big Lie on Parade

From there, on its second page is this article:

Media blackout in Michigan on Black gangs beating up whites

I live in Michigan and never heard about this until I read this blog! The list of crimes is horrendous and here you have the media covering it up!

Who is my enemy? White Liberals. Journalism is not about the truth--it is about demogoguery.

[Arising_uk]

LMAO! That these 'liberals' own your media.

[SpheresOfBalance]

The color of human skin is largely to do with exposure to our suns rays, I'm sure it is tied primarily to a specific frequency that of ultraviolet. The colors of skin varies throughout the peoples of the earth from the whitest of white to the blackest of black and everything in between. There are many variables to consider when approaching this, obviously the natives of Africa are some of the darkest because historically they have been the last culture to put cloths on, and many live on or near the equator, where the suns rays are more intense. Some people have a problem with the fact that Eskimos (extreme northern peoples) are brown and see this as a problem, but all one has to realize is that the most reflective color there is, is flat white, which the arctic and antarctic regions is full of. in addition consider that Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis are a result of the earths magnetic field allowing solar radiation to more readily penetrate our atmosphere such the people of extreme north or south would be more exposed to solar radiation.

Here's something from the US FDA (http://www.fda.gov) that I just found.

"Many factors determine how much UV you are exposed to, including:

* Geography
* Altitude
* Time of year
* Time of day
* Weather conditions
* Reflection

Geography
UV rays are strongest in areas close to the equator. Because the sun is directly over the equator, UV rays only travel a short distance through the atmosphere to reach these areas. UV radiation is also the strongest near the equator because ozone15 in these areas is naturally thinner, so there is less to absorb the UV radiation.

UV exposure is lower in areas further from the equator because the sun is farther away. Exposure is also decreased because UV rays must travel a greater distance through ozone-rich portions of the atmosphere to reach the earth’s surface.

UV exposure is also greater in areas of snow, sand, pavement, and water due to the reflective properties of these surfaces.

Altitude
Altitude is another contributing factor to the amount of UV. Higher altitudes have greater UV exposure because there is less atmosphere to absorb UV rays.

Time of Year
The sun’s angle in relation to the Earth varies according to season. During the summer months the sun is in a more direct angle, resulting in a greater amount of UV radiation.

Time of Day
UV is most intense at noon when the sun is at its highest point in the sky, and UV rays have the least distance to travel through the atmosphere. Especially in the hot summer months, it is a good idea to remain indoors during the peak sun hours of 10am and 4pm.

Weather Conditions
Many people believe that you cannot get sunburned on a cloudy day; this is simply not the case. Even under cloud cover it is possible to damage your skin and eyes, and cause long-term damage. It is important that you protect yourself with sunscreen, even in cloudy weather.

Reflection
Some surfaces, such as snow, sand, grass, or water can reflect much of the UV radiation that reaches them. Sunglasses rated for 100% UV protection, a wide-brim hat, and broad-spectrum sunscreen can help protect your eyes and skin from reflected UV rays."

The point is, that there are many variables to consider.

They mention clouds as not being the protector that many think they are, but I'm sure they're not speaking of kumulonimbus or nimbostratus as these varieties are extremely dense, dark and deep (depth of altitude spanned), such that any geographic area at a given altitude and latitude that historically experiences greater than average rainfall would provide more protection than that of a drier climate, and would tend to produce whiter people.

Frequency of being outdoors verses indoors also plays a part. Construction of the homes also plays a part. The amount of electromagnetic energy that is reflected indoors also plays a part. And since communities (cultures) of people tend to construct homes and use them similarly, at any particular latitude, altitude, climate, and that they are typically participants in the same gene pool, one can easily see the likelihood of a particular shade of skin to be predominate, over the longer tern of similar conditions.

Finally, anyone that sees that the basic premise of Darwin's Theory of Evolution as to natural selection, as the truth that it is, and fails to except the differences between us humans, as anything other than environmental, as through the new understanding of epigenetics, does not understand the full truth of Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

Of course there's a lot more that I could say to keep barracuda's such as Arising_UK away from my jugular, but as I know, and she fails to consider, I'm a lazy fuck, and sometimes just don't care to spend all the inordinate amount of time required, to formulate a truly solid argument, I expect you all to be capable of filling in the blanks of knowledge that I've taken for granted, during my assertion, which is usually done on the fly. Of course those that are naturally adversarial and come here more for the argument than they do the sharing, such as Arising_UK, shall be more prone to try and tear my assertion apart, instead of applying their mental prowess to fill in the blanks that my laziness and complacency has afforded. I can't type for crap, and only have so much time to share.

[artisticsolution]

Hi SOB:

Opinion only....and this 'opinion' coming from a person who believes that "dog psychologists" can know what dogs are thinking.

[SpheresOfBalance]

This coming from a person who believes that "dog psychologists" know what dogs are thinking.

Your're an IDIOT!!! There are, "IN FACT" dog psychologists. Do some research dipshit!

I'm often just a messenger, And you're seemingly "ALWAYS" the fool!!!!

P.S. My wife was actually deciding on whether she wanted to become an animal psychologist. I hope she decides not to, although considering the fact that usually only rich people take their pets to see them, I'm not sure whether to support her or not. I guess it has potential to be a money maker if you're a good one.

On wikipedia look up "Comparative psychology" and "Ethology."

Edit: P.S.

[chaz wyman]

LMAO! That these 'liberals' own your media.

One of the great myths of the American continent fostered by Fox News; The Evil Liberal Bias in the Media.
They try that bullshit over here too.
But we all know there is only one paper that is "liberal", and all the live media is either establishment or own by the right wing.

[artisticsolution]

SOB: There are, "IN FACT" dog psychologists. Do some research dipshit!

AS: LOL... I asked my dog about 'dog psychologists' and she told me it offends her that some people think they know what she's thinking. She told me to tell you and your wife that you're bat shit crazy. I said, "Sammy...you mustn't cuss!" She said, " I saw-ee mama."


SOB:P.S. My wife was actually deciding on whether she wanted to become an animal psychologist. I hope she decides not to, although considering the fact that usually only rich people take their pets to see them, I'm not sure whether to support her or not. I guess it has potential to be a money maker if you're a good one.

AS: Yes...there are alot of fools out there who will willingly give money to liars. Good luck with that.

[SpheresOfBalance]

SOB: There are, "IN FACT" dog psychologists. Do some research dipshit!

AS: LOL... I asked my dog about 'dog psychologists' and she told me it offends her that some people think they know what she's thinking. She told me to tell you and your wife that you're bat shit crazy. I said, "Sammy...you mustn't cuss!" She said, " I saw-ee mama."


SOB:P.S. My wife was actually deciding on whether she wanted to become an animal psychologist. I hope she decides not to, although considering the fact that usually only rich people take their pets to see them, I'm not sure whether to support her or not. I guess it has potential to be a money maker if you're a good one.

AS: Yes...there are alot of fools out there who will willingly give money to liars. Good luck with that.

Are you blind as well as dense? But I guess I can expect no more from someone that thinks she carries on a conversation with her dog.

I said, Check out wikipedia and look up "Comparative psychology" and "Ethology." To find out where your ignorance lies!

[artisticsolution]

I said, Check out wikipedia and look up "Comparative psychology" and "Ethology." To find out where your ignorance lies!

Um...okay first of all...I don't give a fuck what wikipedia says...it's all a bunch of crap. I give very little credence to human psychology so what makes you think I would give a crap about "dog psychology."

It is almost impossible to know what makes humans behave the way they do and they can actually tell you! Why the hell do you think you can even begin to understand animal behavior? You need to get off the lala liberal merry-go-round cause your beginning to make us all look like a bunch of assholes.

Jesus....seriously? You are going to believe that bogus bunch of crap? I suppose you believe everything Freud said too!

The gullibility of mankind never ceases to amaze me.

[SpheresOfBalance]

I said, Check out wikipedia and look up "Comparative psychology" and "Ethology." To find out where your ignorance lies!

Um...okay first of all...I don't give a fuck what wikipedia says...it's all a bunch of crap. I give very little credence to human psychology so what makes you think I would give a crap about "dog psychology."

It is almost impossible to know what makes humans behave the way they do and they can actually tell you! Why the hell do you think you can even begin to understand animal behavior? You need to get off the lala liberal merry-go-round cause your beginning to make us all look like a bunch of assholes.
It's called the scientific method, and is the same one used by your geneticists, oh no, suddenly when science supports your argument it's highly respected, What an idiot, that selectively believes in something when it suits her.


Jesus....seriously? You are going to believe that bogus bunch of crap? I suppose you believe everything Freud said too!

The gullibility of mankind never ceases to amaze me.
She says from her ivory tower of bigotry?

All this she says, but who the hell is she? Absolutely nobody!!
At least, of any consequence.

P.S.
And for your edification, by definition:

con·serv·a·tive /kənˈsɜrvətɪv/ [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv]
adjective
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ [lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl]
adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

Thus conservative's would have us believing in antiquated superstitions of the distant past, as in slavery, as history shows us, much like the church controlling literacy for it's own dominance and thus benefit, the bigots that they are, while clearly liberals try and wipe the archaic shit from the eyes of the would be fools, as they know that knowledge, and thus truth, always moves forward in time?

Ever notice how the conservatives always capture the southern uneducated states with all the under par universities and the liberals always capture those states with the top universities thus the more educated populace?
Get off your fat ass, with it's antiquated beliefs, and do some research for a change.

Clearly then, conservatives are steeped in ignorance, while liberals embrace the future enlightenment of truth that shall set us all free. Sorry, 'sweetheart' there are no slaves with the liberal agenda!

It's a crying shame that sometimes people of median color, between that of white and of black, side with the white oppressors, as a means of taking the focus of the white eyes from their median color, instead of saying to hell with race, which is where it truly belongs.