Free Will Mix

[Arising_uk]

As if you could possibly know me!

Do you know yourself?

I know you as much as your words express. If you are saying your words don't express yourself then I guess I don't.

No it's evidence sweetheart. I KNOW that Freudian psychology hits the mark in some areas, as well a Jung, because it's apparent, once you look at it and mankind, side by side. ...

You never did say how you reconciled these two?

Your 'evidence' is what is called confirmation bias.

It's about finding out WHY the problem exists, that you can truly deal with it, your fools simply want to program over top of it, like some kind of patch on an inner tube, where bubblegum is the adhesive. It's like the fools that prescribe drugs for depression, as if it's actually a disease. Depression is the result of understanding the futility and absurdity of mankind's construct, the powers that be want you to forget about it, because your acknowledgment of it can potentially undermine their livelihood, so they drug you, so you'll forget about it, basically brain washing you, just like your NLP shit.The truth is based in the finding, addressing and finally changing the effects of the problem, make it right, not cover it up like a cat buries it's shit in the sand or better yet like that of an ostrich that buries it's head in the sand, as if the problem will disappear. And any Freudian Psychologist that talks about drugs, can also take a running jump, The TRUTH, is ALL that MATTERS! PERIOD!!!!!

LMFAO! Says the man who's not actually read any NLP but apparently knows all about the 'truth' of it.

Your problem is you believe in an absolute truth that is going to make everything all right. Find 'god' instead, got to be better than the psychoanalysts you're seeing as you'll be getting no-where with them. I bet they've not even made you state the outcome you want in the positive.

"Most people think,
Great god will come from the skies,
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high.
But if you know what life is worth,
You will look for yours on earth:
And now you see the light,
You stand up for your rights. jah!"
Bob Nestor Marley

"Lets change the way you think about it," BULLSHIT! Lets think of how we can get rid of you fuckers that want to brain wash us naturalists, instead!

"naturalists", whats one of those when its at home? I thought you said you were a product of your first five years.

Its not about changing the way one thinks, its about knowing how one thinks so one can then change the things that one wants to, if its feasible that is.

Freud is on the mark as to the role of sex in mans deviancy, it's evident in the way man treats this natural part of his animal self, as without it, he would not exist to contemplate it, there is nothing more fundamental to his existence and yet he holds it at arms distance. The man animal has his head up his ass. Show me a group of humans that run around nude, with smiles on their faces, dancing around like children having fun, enjoying life because of life itself, acknowledging their position in the universe for what it really is, and I'll show you the only true normalcy. All the rest are psychologically fucked? Can you say the majority! Mankind is the most unnatural fucked up animal on the planet, and because of this the most self destructive. Mark my words bitch, the only thing in mans future, left unchecked (on his current course) is his annihilation, at his own hands, the fool that he is. The reason you see good in him is because you are ignorant of the true definition of good. Yours is from a selfish perspective, such is the majority of men.

"Bitch" You truly are a Fraudian and have swallowed his cum well and truly if you believe all bollocks you spout above. Your're a self-loathing nihilst and wish the rest of us to be such as you, whereas many of us nihilists have faced this situation and come through to make the meaning of a life. Time for you to do so I think.

I've already told you, 99% of all species that have ever lived are extinct. Why on earth do you think it'll be any different for Man?

Since you've identified what a 'normal' human being should be, I ask you why are you not this then? What is stopping you? I.e. why are you this animal with its head up its arse, given you know what the issue is?

I believe in no ONE THING! Instead like the wise man that I am, I listen to everything because I KNOW beyond a shadow of doubt, that's the only place where truth resides, it's not to be found in any one thing, it's everywhere, to be found in everything, unlike your STUPID ass believes!!! The trick is to find it's relational position, it's associations, and it's not a one dimensional perspective either. It's a multidimensional interconnectedness, not the flat plane of the pages in a book, as a parroted regurgitation of a singular perspective. No man can possibly know it all, as his specialty precludes it. You have to pick the bits as evidenced by other resources so as to arrive at the true picture of it all. The truth of the bits of any one perspective can be found only in the bits of all the other perspectives as they agree. This is where true genius resides.

Which is EXACTLY what Grinder and Bandler did with psychoanalysis numbnuts!

And for your information You're a fucking fool, A BIG TIME FOOL. With your immature boxing and labeling, "Americans this, Americans that, but us British, oh we're so great, like a fucking 5 year old, you are! Ever stop and wonder what the hell you have to constantly pump up your psyche by making your group the best group, you fucking looser, you! You do this infantile crap more that anyone else I've noticed here on the forum. Ever wonder why your self image is so much in the crapper, that you need to pump it up continuously? For you, education is a weapon, to allow you to feel better about yourself, above all others. You're the idiot that placed me in the Freud box, as if you could possibly know what I believe. You falsely place people and ideas into boxes of opposition to 'your' beliefs as a convenience so that you can claim superiority, it's merely a reflection of your own minds eye, thus illusory, as a means of self stroking. Grow up little girly! Everyone can be equals and life is still OK!

LMAO! Of course they can't numbnuts and life could still be okay.

Education for me was and is an overriding interest that keeps my brain and mind amused and hopefully functional.

That you think cultures do not differ and as such affect the individuals opinions and 'self' shows your stupidity. That you think I put the British over the Americans also shows how you hear with Yank ears and eyes. But I take this as a reference to my explanation of our NHS system and think it shows what a Yank you are. I like Americans, hate Yanks as they hear everything as a put-down.

If I had the ability, I'd leave this fucking planet and watch it implode from space, such is mankind's current course, and if you think for a second that I'd take his selfish bullshit off world, so as to taint another garden of Eden, you're sadly mistaken. I'd sacrifice myself before I'd infect another pure planet with mans psychosis. I'm ready for peace with the cosmos, it's you twisted fucks that wield your so called knowledge as a weapon that aren't, and the ones that are, in fact, the problem.

LMFAO! How very peace-loving of you.

"another garden of Eden", "I'm ready for peace with the cosmos", Twat! The Universe is big cold and indifferent to your desires, as such 'it' can take care of 'itself' without your hubris. So not only a nihilist but a solipsistic one to boot!

[SpheresOfBalance]

As if you could possibly know me!

Do you know yourself?
Obviously, better than you do. You slay me with your absurdities.

I know you as much as your words express. If you are saying your words don't express yourself then I guess I don't.
No obviously it's either your comprehension problem, angry oppositional game playing, or ignorance.

No it's evidence sweetheart. I KNOW that Freudian psychology hits the mark in some areas, as well a Jung, because it's apparent, once you look at it and mankind, side by side. ...

You never did say how you reconciled these two?
And you never did say why you discount them.


Your 'evidence' is what is called confirmation bias.
There you go having problems with dictionaries again, seeing those untrustworthy circular references again, I'm sure.. It's got to be a comprehension problem.

It's about finding out WHY the problem exists, that you can truly deal with it, your fools simply want to program over top of it, like some kind of patch on an inner tube, where bubblegum is the adhesive. It's like the fools that prescribe drugs for depression, as if it's actually a disease. Depression is the result of understanding the futility and absurdity of mankind's construct, the powers that be want you to forget about it, because your acknowledgment of it can potentially undermine their livelihood, so they drug you, so you'll forget about it, basically brain washing you, just like your NLP shit.The truth is based in the finding, addressing and finally changing the effects of the problem, make it right, not cover it up like a cat buries it's shit in the sand or better yet like that of an ostrich that buries it's head in the sand, as if the problem will disappear. And any Freudian Psychologist that talks about drugs, can also take a running jump, The TRUTH, is ALL that MATTERS! PERIOD!!!!!

LMFAO! Says the man who's not actually read any NLP but apparently knows all about the 'truth' of it.

Did some research on it after you mentioned it, it would seem mainstream authorities pretty much agree that it's quackery! You're one of the few fools that buys into the money making sham that it is.

Your problem is you believe in an absolute truth that is going to make everything all right. Find 'god' instead, got to be better than the psychoanalysts you're seeing as you'll be getting no-where with them. I bet they've not even made you state the outcome you want in the positive.

Your problem it that because you put in a little bit of time in the institution, you think you know it all, and from the way you wield your potential empty weight around, as if to cut somebody down, it's obvious that you suffer from the conformation bias that you're all to familiar with. It's utterance was merely a reflection of self

"Most people think,
Great god will come from the skies,
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high.
But if you know what life is worth,
You will look for yours on earth:
And now you see the light,
You stand up for your rights. jah!"
Bob Nestor Marley

Great 'Rasta' man!

"Lets change the way you think about it," BULLSHIT! Lets think of how we can get rid of you fuckers that want to brain wash us naturalists, instead!

"naturalists", whats one of those when its at home? I thought you said you were a product of your first five years.
Don't understand your meaning of 'home.' Everyone's psyche is!

Its not about changing the way one thinks, its about knowing how one thinks so one can then change the things that one wants to, if its feasible that is.
It's about coming to terms with the truth of the matter of the programming of the first five years, when we're incapable of fully allowing the adult to regulate the false parental inputs. After many years, In retrospect, it's about the clarity of memory, so its a struggle.

Freud is on the mark as to the role of sex in mans deviancy, it's evident in the way man treats this natural part of his animal self, as without it, he would not exist to contemplate it, there is nothing more fundamental to his existence and yet he holds it at arms distance. The man animal has his head up his ass. Show me a group of humans that run around nude, with smiles on their faces, dancing around like children having fun, enjoying life because of life itself, acknowledging their position in the universe for what it really is, and I'll show you the only true normalcy. All the rest are psychologically fucked? Can you say the majority! Mankind is the most unnatural fucked up animal on the planet, and because of this the most self destructive. Mark my words bitch, the only thing in mans future, left unchecked (on his current course) is his annihilation, at his own hands, the fool that he is. The reason you see good in him is because you are ignorant of the true definition of good. Yours is from a selfish perspective, such is the majority of men.

"Bitch" You truly are a Fraudian and have swallowed his cum well and truly if you believe all bollocks you spout above. Your're a self-loathing nihilst and wish the rest of us to be such as you, whereas many of us nihilists have faced this situation and come through to make the meaning of a life. Time for you to do so I think.
Not quite, but you're a self sucking fool whose lips are swollen red from your cum, and whose vulva is swollen red from your saliva. Since you are incapable of understanding the riddle that is life, you manufacture you own sick and twisted self centered/serving solution that shall yield your own destruction as you're incapable of seeing the life for the self.

I've already told you, 99% of all species that have ever lived are extinct. Why on earth do you think it'll be any different for Man?
Man, you're fucking ignorant! With time, without question, of course, only a true fool would say otherwise, man shall eventually become extinct. It's built into all probabilities within the essence of the universe. But we're not talking about that fool, we're talking about his untimely demise at his own foolish/selfish hands, when it could be otherwise if he only got a clue!


Since you've identified what a 'normal' human being should be, I ask you why are you not this then? What is stopping you? I.e. why are you this animal with its head up its arse, given you know what the issue is?
Again with your obvious stupidity, there is no fucking switch, you can simply flick to turn back time and make it right, man you''re a fucking fool! And you haven't listened either, typical of you dumb shit know-it-alls, so full of your own preconceived ideas, borrowed from text books that some one else wrote that you regurgitate as though it's a reflection of your abilities, the shelter in which you seek refuge, in order to qualify your intellect, so as to beat your chest as the king of all monkeys.

It takes time and must be worked at, there are things in the current construct that preclude it. What? Your dumb ass actually believes, that somewhere on the planet there is actually true freedom that allows for humans to live as they're supposed to???? Where, is this mythical place where I can do any damn thing I want, without being fucked with for dong it, as long as it has no adverse effect on the rest of the population? There is no such place, thanks to the lie that is mankind's current construct, civilization, as the fucks refer to it.

I believe in no ONE THING! Instead like the wise man that I am, I listen to everything because I KNOW beyond a shadow of doubt, that's the only place where truth resides, it's not to be found in any one thing, it's everywhere, to be found in everything, unlike your STUPID ass believes!!! The trick is to find it's relational position, it's associations, and it's not a one dimensional perspective either. It's a multidimensional interconnectedness, not the flat plane of the pages in a book, as a parroted regurgitation of a singular perspective. No man can possibly know it all, as his specialty precludes it. You have to pick the bits as evidenced by other resources so as to arrive at the true picture of it all. The truth of the bits of any one perspective can be found only in the bits of all the other perspectives as they agree. This is where true genius resides.

Which is EXACTLY what Grinder and Bandler did with psychoanalysis numbnuts!
Or so you fucking say, I got your numbnuts, though obviously they're currently in your mouth.

And for your information You're a fucking fool, A BIG TIME FOOL. With your immature boxing and labeling, "Americans this, Americans that, but us British, oh we're so great, like a fucking 5 year old, you are! Ever stop and wonder what the hell you have to constantly pump up your psyche by making your group the best group, you fucking looser, you! You do this infantile crap more that anyone else I've noticed here on the forum. Ever wonder why your self image is so much in the crapper, that you need to pump it up continuously? For you, education is a weapon, to allow you to feel better about yourself, above all others. You're the idiot that placed me in the Freud box, as if you could possibly know what I believe. You falsely place people and ideas into boxes of opposition to 'your' beliefs as a convenience so that you can claim superiority, it's merely a reflection of your own minds eye, thus illusory, as a means of self stroking. Grow up little girly! Everyone can be equals and life is still OK!

LMAO! Of course they can't numbnuts and life could still be okay.
And therein 'lies' your problem! You fail to understand what equal really means. Everything in you life is for you and yours alone.

Education for me was and is an overriding interest that keeps my brain and mind amused and hopefully functional.

That you think cultures do not differ and as such affect the individuals opinions and 'self' shows your stupidity. That you think I put the British over the Americans also shows how you hear with Yank ears and eyes. But I take this as a reference to my explanation of our NHS system and think it shows what a Yank you are. I like Americans, hate Yanks as they hear everything as a put-down.
Grow up girly, and stop trying to hide behind your imaginary vision of self, you're a child that requires someone to feel better than, to qualify your existence.

"We all figure that our homes our homes are set above
Other people than the ones the ones we know and love
... In every place with a name
... They play the same territorial game
... Hiding behind the lines
... Sending up warning signs

The whole wide world
An endless universe
Yet we keep looking through
The eyeglass in reverse
Don't feed the people
But we feed the machines
Can't really feel
What international means
... In different circles
... We keep holding our ground
... Indifferent circles
... We keep spinning round and round and round

...The bosses get talking so tough
... And if that wasn't evil enough
... We get the drunken and the passionate pride
... Of the citzens along for the ride

They shoot without shame
In the name of a piece of dirt
For a change of accent
Or the colour of your shirt
Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"
--Peart--

If I had the ability, I'd leave this fucking planet and watch it implode from space, such is mankind's current course, and if you think for a second that I'd take his selfish bullshit off world, so as to taint another garden of Eden, you're sadly mistaken. I'd sacrifice myself before I'd infect another pure planet with mans psychosis. I'm ready for peace with the cosmos, it's you twisted fucks that wield your so called knowledge as a weapon that aren't, and the ones that are, in fact, the problem.

LMFAO! How very peace-loving of you.
Man you're a fool, You and all your crap is no reflection upon me, you're the fuckwad that won't listen to reason, how long do I have to beat my head against the wall of your indifference, before I get sick and tired of your foolish opposition and throw in the towel on my caring about you all? If you fuckwads want to kill yourselves off, I'd rather watch from space as opposed to being yet another victim of your asinine selfish bullshit.

"another garden of Eden", "I'm ready for peace with the cosmos", Twat! The Universe is big cold and indifferent to your desires, as such 'it' can take care of 'itself' without your hubris. So not only a nihilist but a solipsistic one to boot!
We could fill an multi-volume encyclopedia set, such as Britannica, with the things you don't know due to your parroting misconceptions, preconceptions, and AI programming!

[Arising_uk]

Obviously, better than you do. You slay me with your absurdities.

What do you chat about with these therapists then? How's the angst going?

No obviously it's either your comprehension problem, angry oppositional game playing, or ignorance.

Well, its not the latter and if you check back over the posts I think we can see who's the angry one. So it could be comprehension and since you pretty much never answer questions I think it might be this.

Did you know that synaesthetes and the mentally unbalanced often express their emotions by using coloured writing?

And you never did say why you discount them.

Not going to answer again?

I pretty much discount much of Freud, and especially the Freudians who followed him, as when he wrote his first paper based upon his experience in Paris of working with abused women it was completely panned in his country, as, I guess, no-one could face the reality that their mental conditions were based upon actual events, that he then re-wrote it and created his theory of personality and the sexual complexes with the idea that it was all hysteria upon the womens part and it became a success that has flourished ever since put the cap upon it for me.

Jung I've always liked and agree with his idea, and against Freud, that to explore the psyche we should use subjects trained in the understanding of ones thoughts. I also prefer the idea of sub-consciousnesses rather than the unconsciousness and thought the idea of how synchronicity and meaning relate was interesting although disagreed with some of his explanation for it. And before you think this was some educational course, I read this stuff in my teens for fun.

What're your thoughts?

There you go having problems with dictionaries again, seeing those untrustworthy circular references again, I'm sure.. It's got to be a comprehension problem.

How so? You see the world through a Freudian prism and as such find it as its described by him. Its called confirmation bias and I think it describes the 'evidence' you put forward.

Did some research on it after you mentioned it, it would seem mainstream authorities pretty much agree that it's quackery! You're one of the few fools that buys into the money making sham that it is.

LMFAO! Says the parrot. Try taking a course or reading the actual books I suggested to you.

Your problem it that because you put in a little bit of time in the institution, you think you know it all, and from the way you wield your potential empty weight around, as if to cut somebody down, it's obvious that you suffer from the conformation bias that you're all to familiar with. It's utterance was merely a reflection of self

What institution? Save the psycho-babble for yourself.

Don't understand your meaning of 'home.' Everyone's psyche is!

Everyone's psyche is what? I meant, what is a "naturalist"?

Are you saying that you think you cannot change? That what happened between one and five is forever? I disagree.

It's about coming to terms with the truth of the matter of the programming of the first five years, when we're incapable of fully allowing the adult to regulate the false parental inputs. After many years, In retrospect, it's about the clarity of memory, so its a struggle.

I disagree, experience is not what happened to you, its how you deal with what happened. Memory is not the event, you can, with clarity, revisit such things with the adult perspective you have now and change the way you respond to such things now. I'm not saying you can change what happened but you can certainly change whatever behaviours you are exhibiting now that you think was caused by then.

Not quite, but you're a self sucking fool whose lips are swollen red from your cum, and whose vulva is swollen red from your saliva. Since you are incapable of understanding the riddle that is life, you manufacture you own sick and twisted self centered/serving solution that shall yield your own destruction as you're incapable of seeing the life for the self.

*Yawn* You are repeating your sexual slurs. There is no 'riddle' to life, there pretty much is no such thing as "life", just living things. There is no riddler out there setting you puzzles. You're born, you live and then you die. You appear to want a 'god' to give you an answer to everything to solve your issues, there isn't one, or there is, but its you and you self that has to find the solution. Me, I think NLP is currently a cutting-edge tool to teach people how we think, thought and communicate, how to set and achieve outcomes and goals and how to learn skills very quickly. All things that I think the world could only benefit from.

What do you offer?

Man, you're fucking ignorant! With time, without question, of course, only a true fool would say otherwise, man shall eventually become extinct. It's built into all probabilities within the essence of the universe. But we're not talking about that fool, we're talking about his untimely demise at his own foolish/selfish hands, when it could be otherwise if he only got a clue!

Can you offer any solutions? But LMAO as I actually think, barring catastrophes, that we could last as long as the Universe if we wished. Pray tell what this "essence" is?

Again with your obvious stupidity, there is no fucking switch, you can simply flick to turn back time and make it right, man you''re a fucking fool! And you haven't listened either, typical of you dumb shit know-it-alls, so full of your own preconceived ideas, borrowed from text books that some one else wrote that you regurgitate as though it's a reflection of your abilities, the shelter in which you seek refuge, in order to qualify your intellect, so as to beat your chest as the king of all monkeys.

Nope, based upon experience watching others doing it and doing what I talk about. You live in a construct of the past, there is no memory that is actually the past, we make it-up each and every time as we don't have the stimulus to actually recreate the happening perfectly, only its representations. As such, whilst we can't change what happened we can certainly 'revisit' with the resources we have now and it makes a BIG change to how we behave in the present.

It takes time and must be worked at, there are things in the current construct that preclude it. What? Your dumb ass actually believes, that somewhere on the planet there is actually true freedom that allows for humans to live as they're supposed to???? Where, is this mythical place where I can do any damn thing I want, without being fucked with for dong it, as long as it has no adverse effect on the rest of the population? There is no such place, thanks to the lie that is mankind's current construct, civilization, as the fucks refer to it.

Why "must" it be "worked" at? Why must it take time? Who says these things? What in your current construct is precluding you from changing?

Its you that has the utopian dream, e.g. "for humans to live as they're supposed to"(?) and apparently its so that you can do anything you damn well please. So what is it that you damn well wish to do that pleases you that you can't do now? Give me an example.

Everything about you screams solipsistic nihilistic victimhood to me, its all them, those fucks, everyone else but you.

Or so you fucking say, I got your numbnuts, though obviously they're currently in your mouth.

And yet you accept what others say about it even tho' they've got a vested interest in such things. Read the books and take the courses and make your own mind up. Its what NLP recommends.

And therein 'lies' your problem! You fail to understand what equal really means. Everything in you life is for you and yours alone.

Pray enlighten me as to what equal really means.

I have no problem in the sense you describe, although my life is obviously only mine and mine alone, I also share it with my friends and family and act with goodwill to most that I meet. You can't do much more.

Grow up girly, and stop trying to hide behind your imaginary vision of self, you're a child that requires someone to feel better than, to qualify your existence.

Save your psycho-babble for yourself. Better still, get an education rather than thinking it all a plot to do others down.

...Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"
--Peart--

Interesting poem, given what you've said elsewhere I have you down as Forces or a Forces brat? Is this why you have such a view of things?

What happens if the flag is Internationalist and proposes a utopia that you prescribe to?

We could fill an multi-volume encyclopedia set, such as Britannica, with the things you don't know due to your parroting misconceptions, preconceptions, and AI programming!

So you keep repeating but I've yet to hear anything from you rebutting what I say.

You forgot philosophy and teaching!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Obviously, better than you do. You slay me with your absurdities.

What do you chat about with these therapists then? How's the angst going?
Since I started, I've only seen her 5 times, that would be not quite 5 hours. Actually after the first visit she gave me something that I use to slow me down a bit. And I've combined that with some hypnosis, and together they work pretty well, not that you're really concerned.

No obviously it's either your comprehension problem, angry oppositional game playing, or ignorance.

Well, its not the latter and if you check back over the posts I think we can see who's the angry one. So it could be comprehension and since you pretty much never answer questions I think it might be this.

Actually I believe that you like this teacup is full of your own presumption of the way things are, which you think are universal, when it comes to people, but in fact it's not, and as such you have no room for what it is that I tell you. It's not really your fault as I said before, I don't tell you enough for you to make the proper assumptions. Not that it's intentional, you just have a habit of counting your chickens before they're hatched.

Did you know that synaesthetes and the mentally unbalanced often express their emotions by using coloured writing?

That's nice, Thanks for the info, I'm sure it'll come in handy one day.

And you never did say why you discount them.

Not going to answer again?

I pretty much discount much of Freud, and especially the Freudians who followed him, as when he wrote his first paper based upon his experience in Paris of working with abused women it was completely panned in his country, as, I guess, no-one could face the reality that their mental conditions were based upon actual events, that he then re-wrote it and created his theory of personality and the sexual complexes with the idea that it was all hysteria upon the womens part and it became a success that has flourished ever since put the cap upon it for me.

Jung I've always liked and agree with his idea, and against Freud, that to explore the psyche we should use subjects trained in the understanding of ones thoughts. I also prefer the idea of sub-consciousnesses rather than the unconsciousness and thought the idea of how synchronicity and meaning relate was interesting although disagreed with some of his explanation for it. And before you think this was some educational course, I read this stuff in my teens for fun.

What're your thoughts?

Like I've told you, I don't buy 100% into anything anyone tells me, I realize that there can be both correct and incorrect ideas in everyone's analysis, therefore I pick and choose, only those ideas that I find elsewhere supported, especially if it comes from a totally different subject. I try and find a multidimensional interconnectedness, that I see, as ensuring I've collected the proper bits of data. The only people I tend to shun altogether are those that are somehow related to the killing of innocents, as I believe they are truly incapable of understanding anything worthwhile, or they would have killed themselves instead.

There you go having problems with dictionaries again, seeing those untrustworthy circular references again, I'm sure.. It's got to be a comprehension problem.

How so? You see the world through a Freudian prism and as such find it as its described by him. Its called confirmation bias and I think it describes the 'evidence' you put forward.
That's because you don't know of the evidence I've put forward. Again you see me write things and take them to be complete, without further need of articulation, this is false, but you judge them anyway, as complete. Nothing can be understood for what it truly is, until 100% of it is in clear sight. And even then, there may be aspects that aren't quite obvious to the casual observer.

Did some research on it after you mentioned it, it would seem mainstream authorities pretty much agree that it's quackery! You're one of the few fools that buys into the money making sham that it is.

LMFAO! Says the parrot. Try taking a course or reading the actual books I suggested to you.
Can't you get it through your thick skull, I can barely afford to eat, this is one of the things that pisses me off about talking to you, my need to constantly reiterate, for your re-acquaintance, because it consumes time, and as I've told you, I can't type for shit, your memory sucks! Start eating lots of cinnamon and sage to increase your memory and focus, seriously, it works.

Your problem it that because you put in a little bit of time in the institution, you think you know it all, and from the way you wield your potential empty weight around, as if to cut somebody down, it's obvious that you suffer from the conformation bias that you're all to familiar with. It's utterance was merely a reflection of self

What institution? Save the psycho-babble for yourself.
Education!!! Contextually, what else could it have been?

Don't understand your meaning of 'home.' Everyone's psyche is!

Everyone's psyche is what? I meant, what is a "naturalist"?
Created in the first 5 years. Fair enough, I mean it as one that believes in, and embraces all that is provided by nature. The natural state of things, without being corrupted.

Are you saying that you think you cannot change? That what happened between one and five is forever? I disagree.
Not at all, look, some people had the luxury of having soft and sweet love, understanding and nurturing during the first five, as long as there are not physical defects in the brain, this creates a sound psyche. But unfortunately for some of us, we were abused during this time, unloved, and in my case placed into a mode of believing that they must always be on their toes, as their death is eminent, resulting in angst, because it's programmed in during this very important time of psyche formation, it can be hard to get rid of. If one could remember every instance of the abuse then it would be easy to change, as the adult rational mind could revisit and understand the dynamics of the cause and effect, thus negate their influence more readily. Unfortunately, it's very hard to get in touch with those early years so as to revisit them in order to see and change their effects. I'm lucky that I'm able to remember one of them, I was 4 and I've already come to terms with at least some of it such that I've seen some of it's effects which caused me more pain. Basically I was getting punished for being punished, and I deserved none of it!

It's about coming to terms with the truth of the matter of the programming of the first five years, when we're incapable of fully allowing the adult to regulate the false parental inputs. After many years, In retrospect, it's about the clarity of memory, so its a struggle.

I disagree, experience is not what happened to you, its how you deal with what happened. Memory is not the event, you can, with clarity, revisit such things with the adult perspective you have now and change the way you respond to such things now. I'm not saying you can change what happened but you can certainly change whatever behaviours you are exhibiting now that you think was caused by then.
See above, I said as much. But what you fail to realize is that some of what happened is either forgotten, or has been purposely blocked. And these things can only be reconciled if they are known.

Not quite, but you're a self sucking fool whose lips are swollen red from your cum, and whose vulva is swollen red from your saliva. Since you are incapable of understanding the riddle that is life, you manufacture you own sick and twisted self centered/serving solution that shall yield your own destruction as you're incapable of seeing the life for the self.

*Yawn* You are repeating your sexual slurs.
Hey, you started the ridiculous shit!

There is no 'riddle' to life, there pretty much is no such thing as "life", just living things.
No, life is the living
There is no riddler out there setting you puzzles.
Never said there was.
You're born, you live and then you die.
No shit, Sherlock!
You appear to want a 'god' to give you an answer to everything to solve your issues, there isn't one, or there is, but its you and you self that has to find the solution.
Then your vision is cloudy, as I see that we are born of the universe, and as such it's children, I do not believe in mans god, but I believe that there may be a creator, and then again it could be pure chance, but even then we are the children of the universe.

Me, I think NLP is currently a cutting-edge tool to teach people how we think, thought and communicate, how to set and achieve outcomes and goals and how to learn skills very quickly. All things that I think the world could only benefit from.
Have you found it to work for 'you?'

What do you offer?
That which I have already said, I find it surprising that with our differences, we see some things similarly.

Man, you're fucking ignorant! With time, without question, of course, only a true fool would say otherwise, man shall eventually become extinct. It's built into all probabilities within the essence of the universe. But we're not talking about that fool, we're talking about his untimely demise at his own foolish/selfish hands, when it could be otherwise if he only got a clue!

Can you offer any solutions? But LMAO as I actually think, barring catastrophes, that we could last as long as the Universe if we wished. Pray tell what this "essence" is?
Can you read? I said it could be otherwise, for a time, but for his selfishness. The essence seems to be chaos.

Again with your obvious stupidity, there is no fucking switch, you can simply flick to turn back time and make it right, man you''re a fucking fool! And you haven't listened either, typical of you dumb shit know-it-alls, so full of your own preconceived ideas, borrowed from text books that some one else wrote that you regurgitate as though it's a reflection of your abilities, the shelter in which you seek refuge, in order to qualify your intellect, so as to beat your chest as the king of all monkeys.

Nope, based upon experience watching others doing it and doing what I talk about. You live in a construct of the past, there is no memory that is actually the past, we make it-up each and every time as we don't have the stimulus to actually recreate the happening perfectly, only its representations. As such, whilst we can't change what happened we can certainly 'revisit' with the resources we have now and it makes a BIG change to how we behave in the present.
You seem to be incapable of keeping track of the conversation, you asked why I haven't become my example of a 'normal' human, It's because I can't turn back time, because what I see as normal, is so far removed from that of today, it shall require turning back time, unless I get everyone's cooperation, and there is no way that's going to happen.

It takes time and must be worked at, there are things in the current construct that preclude it. What? Your dumb ass actually believes, that somewhere on the planet there is actually true freedom that allows for humans to live as they're supposed to???? Where, is this mythical place where I can do any damn thing I want, without being fucked with for dong it, as long as it has no adverse effect on the rest of the population? There is no such place, thanks to the lie that is mankind's current construct, civilization, as the fucks refer to it.

Why "must" it be "worked" at? Why must it take time? Who says these things? What in your current construct is precluding you from changing?
Not mine, ours!

I should be walking around naked, can I, without being fucked with? What if I decide it may be fun to copulate in the middle of a field, can I do that, it's natural? I don't want to pay taxes, I don't owe anyone shit, can I get away with that? I may want to smoke pot as I stare at the stars contemplating infinity, can I do that? I want to pick out a piece of fertile land and farm it instead of working for any other fucking human, can I do that? The answer to all is fuck no, I'm a fucking slave to your fucking system that is designed to make you fucking rich. I despise your so called fucking civilization, because it's fucking designed to keep the fucking rich ahead of me, as they fucking stole all the land up centuries ago, saying it was fucking there's just because they were here first and would fucking kill for it. Today they expect you to be civil and not take their example and kill them for it, so they put laws into effect so as to ensure they keep it, god forbid you take it like they did, And I agree!!!! So fucking do the right thing and give up your excess, as it's not really yours to begin with. Can you see my dilemma? I want to live truly free as the natural universe intended, fuck mans laws, save one. The Golden Rule revised by me to compensate for it's flaws pointed out by some philosophers, which I call the "Fundamental Social Axiom" (Gold is uncalled for) which states: Treat others as you would have others treat you, to the extent that all parties knowingly agree at the time."

Its you that has the utopian dream, e.g. "for humans to live as they're supposed to"(?) and apparently its so that you can do anything you damn well please. So what is it that you damn well wish to do that pleases you that you can't do now? Give me an example.
See Above!

Everything about you screams solipsistic nihilistic victimhood to me, its all them, those fucks, everyone else but you.
That's because you've bought into the lie!

Or so you fucking say, I got your numbnuts, though obviously they're currently in your mouth.

And yet you accept what others say about it even tho' they've got a vested interest in such things. Read the books and take the courses and make your own mind up. Its what NLP recommends.

And therein 'lies' your problem! You fail to understand what equal really means. Everything in you life is for you and yours alone.

Pray enlighten me as to what equal really means.
In this context, it means that each and every life has the same right to equally enjoy it's time here without anyone interfering. A particular life's construct is up to it alone as long as it does not harm another, because no one knows the truth of our existence, thus none are subject to another's construct. In other words the only thing we absolutely owe one another is to leave one another alone, as there is no accounting for any particular lifestyles truth.

I have no problem in the sense you describe, although my life is obviously only mine and mine alone, I also share it with my friends and family and act with goodwill to most that I meet. You can't do much more.
Yes, this is true

Grow up girly, and stop trying to hide behind your imaginary vision of self, you're a child that requires someone to feel better than, to qualify your existence.

Save your psycho-babble for yourself. Better still, get an education rather than thinking it all a plot to do others down.
It's not necessarily a plot. I have an education, you should take your own advice!

...Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"
--Peart--

Interesting poem,
It's a song!

given what you've said elsewhere I have you down as Forces or a Forces brat? Is this why you have such a view of things?
No brat here, just a victim of brats.


What happens if the flag is Internationalist and proposes a utopia that you prescribe to?
Did you read it? Note the first half: "Better the pride that resides in a citizen of the world, than the pride that divides when a colorful rag is unfurled" If there is only one people no flag is required!

We could fill an multi-volume encyclopedia set, such as Britannica, with the things you don't know due to your parroting misconceptions, preconceptions, and AI programming!

So you keep repeating but I've yet to hear anything from you rebutting what I say.
I've yet to here you saying anything worth rebutting. Actually I disagree, I've just not done so to your liking.

You forgot philosophy and teaching!
No, I used those Items I thought applied.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Did you know that synaesthetes and the mentally unbalanced often express their emotions by using coloured writing?

This right here is proof that you are a part of the false construct, a parrot if you will. What you said above means absolutely nothing, except that you are an automaton, of the construct (matrix if you will) of falsehood, as it's an attempt to force your views down someones throat, to appease your own selfish will, in not wanting someone to rock your boat, so as to control them much like a marionette. FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK! I'm with George Carlin on this one, 100%, may he rest in peace!

"Just like the pied piper, led rats through the streets, we dance like marionette's, swaying to the symphony, of destruction." --Dave Mustaine--

Well, we all do it to one extent or another, but there are those such as myself that do so kicking and screaming, trying to warn everyone else that we're rapidly approaching the precipice.

[SpheresOfBalance]

As if you could possibly know me!

Do you know yourself?

No one knows themselves completely, how can it be possible for one to subjectively objectify itself? Sure you may know bits and pieces, but your totality shall always be beyond your comprehension. Tell me what happened, what was in your mind on your first day. Of course I expect you to be honest, as I have absolutely no way of knowing the validity of your words. The truth is you can't tell me and thus it's impossible to truly know your self in it's entirety, as your self is the culmination of all your experience, which means you'd have to be able to recite every single cause and effect that you have encountered in your entire life, such that it can be weighed and measured, so as to understand the dynamics, implications and ramifications of each moment since the first.

This idea of knowing your self is designed as assurance of certainty and conviction as to the quality of your knowledge. Another instance of trying to pat yourself on the back.

[SpheresOfBalance]

You truly are a Fraudian and have swallowed his cum well and truly if you believe all bollocks you spout above.

Not quite, but you're a self sucking fool whose lips are swollen red from your cum, and whose vulva is swollen red from your saliva.

*Yawn* You are repeating your sexual slurs.

Not at all, there is pointed commentary here that apparently went over your head. It's a metaphor of auto erotica likened to that of stroking one's ego. I just see it as a very graphic means of displaying the extent to which it applies. To take something, that would normally be extremely private and expose it blatantly, lends to effect, unless of course it goes over one's head.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Arising, as we have spoken, it's obvious that I'm capable of understanding you, more readily, than you are, at understanding me. Maybe its that you are a better writer and maybe it's that I'm a better reader. Maybe it's that we speak slightly different languages. Maybe it's that you are more dishonest, and I am more honest. I can't say for sure, as the analysis depends upon whats in your head. I cannot speak for you. But it is often trying, in conversing with you, as I often have to back track, and I can't type for shit, and my writing composition is verbose, thus time consuming. But when we're on the same page of understanding, without the derogatory BS, it's enjoyable.

So since I haven't said so, Thanks for your time!

[Arising_uk]

Did you know that synaesthetes and the mentally unbalanced often express their emotions by using coloured writing?

This right here is proof that you are a part of the false construct, a parrot if you will. What you said above means absolutely nothing, except that you are an automaton, of the construct (matrix if you will) of falsehood, as it's an attempt to force your views down someones throat, to appease your own selfish will, in not wanting someone to rock your boat, so as to control them much like a marionette. FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK! I'm with George Carlin on this one, 100%, may he rest in peace!

"Just like the pied piper, led rats through the streets, we dance like marionette's, swaying to the symphony, of destruction." --Dave Mustaine--

Well, we all do it to one extent or another, but there are those such as myself that do so kicking and screaming, trying to warn everyone else that we're rapidly approaching the precipice.

Now what was it you were saying about anger?

Nice shade of red you've got there.

I also notice the loons green and the the ego-maniacs purple appear at times.

In case its missed your attention the world and media is full of such warnings, you are just squawking in a very large flock.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Did you know that synaesthetes and the mentally unbalanced often express their emotions by using coloured writing?

This right here is proof that you are a part of the false construct, a parrot if you will. What you said above means absolutely nothing, except that you are an automaton, of the construct (matrix if you will) of falsehood, as it's an attempt to force your views down someones throat, to appease your own selfish will, in not wanting someone to rock your boat, so as to control them much like a marionette. FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK! I'm with George Carlin on this one, 100%, may he rest in peace!

"Just like the pied piper, led rats through the streets, we dance like marionette's, swaying to the symphony, of destruction." --Dave Mustaine--

Well, we all do it to one extent or another, but there are those such as myself that do so kicking and screaming, trying to warn everyone else that we're rapidly approaching the precipice.

Now what was it you were saying about anger?

Nice shade of red you've got there.

I also notice the loons green and the the ego-maniacs purple appear at times.

In case its missed your attention the world and media is full of such warnings, you are just squawking in a very large flock.

You know you're out of your tree right? How old are you like twelve, I'm talking mentally here. Colors mean absolutely nothing. Because they are said to mean so many things. For instance Purple is the color of royalty and importance, historically speaking, as with art anyway. Remember I went to college and among other things, took art history. So you're full of shit. In addition most professors and teachers in the USA use red for correcting papers. In the USN Red is reserved for the CO, green for the XO and pulple for the CMC. In film as story, Red and Black can mean danger, but red can also mean sexually wanton love while yellow is pure innocent love. Pink is also innocence. The colors I choose are arbitrary, If I keep track of which I used last, I alternate purely for your reading clarity, so that you can quickly scan the text I wrote this time as opposed to the last time, for those people that maintain the nested structure of the messages. I bet you believe in Santa Claus, Saint Nicholas, Sinterklaas, Christkindel oh excuse me, I guess that's Father Christmas. I guess you also know of fortune tellers that actually can predict the future too.

Grow up girly, there's nothing to that bull shit! And here I actually believed you were a person of science, not a superstitious fruitcake!

[Arising_uk]

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Grow up girly, there's nothing to that bull shit! And here I actually believed you were a person of science, not a superstitious fruitcake!

Notice how you miss out answering the statement that you are just clucking with the coop?

But that you then give an explanation of what colours can mean. My take was not scientific but just a semi-humourous jibe based upon how the police used to treat the seriousness of death threats. That its triggered you off is no surprise to me.

I never said I was a 'person of science' at best I'm a wannabe philosopher who took a science degree for interest in the topic. Nearly 'killed' me. getting it.

[SpheresOfBalance]

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Grow up girly, there's nothing to that bull shit! And here I actually believed you were a person of science, not a superstitious fruitcake!

Notice how you miss out answering the statement that you are just clucking with the coop?
Didn't miss out on it, never heard it before, must be a local thing for you.

But that you then give an explanation of what colours can mean. My take was not scientific but just a semi-humourous jibe based upon how the police used to treat the seriousness of death threats. That its triggered you off is no surprise to me.
Triggered me off? Another local thing, I presume. But I take it, that you're referring to, how I defend at the slightest hint of aggression.
As I'm sure you've noticed it's hard to judge someones attitude in a text based forum.

I never said I was a 'person of science' at best I'm a wannabe philosopher who took a science degree for interest in the topic. Nearly 'killed' me. getting it.
As I remember it, your AI degree was a much longer course of study than your philosophy degree, correct?

[Arising_uk]

Didn't miss out on it, never heard it before, must be a local thing for you.

In case its missed your attention the world and media is full of such warnings, you are just squawking in a very large flock.

As I'm sure you've noticed it's hard to judge someones attitude in a text based forum.

Depends what you mean by "attitude"?

As I remember it, your AI degree was a much longer course of study than your philosophy degree, correct?

Nope, a Masters degree is generally shorter than a degree as its supposed to be the next step from the degree subject but because mine wasn't in Computer Science but Philosophy it took me longer than usual to complete the Masters as I had a lot of catching-up to do. Still shorter than the first degree tho'.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Didn't miss out on it, never heard it before, must be a local thing for you.

In case its missed your attention the world and media is full of such warnings, you are just squawking in a very large flock.

Oh, I get it, a Chicken Little analogy, No wonder I missed it the first time, chickens do flock but they don't squawk, maybe chirp, cheep or crow.
Of course my response would be, what's that got to do with it? The number of people accounting an impending doom, has absolutely nothing to do with it's validity, only fools would think otherwise.

As I'm sure you've noticed it's hard to judge someones attitude in a text based forum.

Depends what you mean by "attitude"?
Inflections!

As I remember it, your AI degree was a much longer course of study than your philosophy degree, correct?

Nope, a Masters degree is generally shorter than a degree as its supposed to be the next step from the degree subject but because mine wasn't in Computer Science but Philosophy it took me longer than usual to complete the Masters as I had a lot of catching-up to do. Still shorter than the first degree tho'.
I failed to follow this, as it seemed to have too many nondescript 'degrees.'
I was under the impression that you had a Masters (8 years) in AI and a Bachelors (4 years) in Philosophy.

[Arising_uk]

Oh, I get it, a Chicken Little analogy, No wonder I missed it the first time, chickens do flock but they don't squawk, maybe chirp, cheep or crow.
Of course my response would be, what's that got to do with it? The number of people accounting an impending doom, has absolutely nothing to do with it's validity, only fools would think otherwise.

I wasn't thinking of this chicken. I was just pointing-out that your claim to be trying to warn everyone else is not much needed as the whole media and many politicians, at least over here, are shouting this. Maybe its not the same in the States? And thinking about it I'd not be surprised given you pretty much appear not to teach the theory of evolution over there.

Inflections!

Not really, of course its hard to judge the nuance of an inflection but words do express the state-of-mind of the other, crudely maybe but there nonetheless.

I failed to follow this, as it seemed to have too many nondescript 'degrees.'
I was under the impression that you had a Masters (8 years) in AI and a Bachelors (4 years) in Philosophy.

We must have a different system than you, B.A.(Hons)Degree(Bachelor of Arts) or B.Sc.(Hons)(Bachelor of Science)- three years, M.A.(Master of Arts) or M.Sc.(Master of Science) degree - 1 year(as its supposed to be in the same subject as the degree, thats why it took me longer to get), Phd or Doctorate - anything from three to eight years depending upon how brilliant you are, normally in the same subject as the other degrees but ironically enough its known as a Doctorate of Philosophy.