Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

[SpheresOfBalance]

Not going to play this game, I know!

You talk in your head to much and assume stuff. Try answering some questions and we might get somewhere.

The truth of life.

Which is?

You know you are useless with your bait and switch mentality, right? You tend to give the impression that you say, hear and mean nothing, and only exist here too argue; such a foolish position.

You're an idiot if you think you can write upon a philosophy forum as tho' its a general chat room. Try answering some questions that others ask of your thoughts for once and stop thinking of it as some kind of trap. We both may learn something

Your clitoris is swollen red from your saliva, and your lips are swollen red from your vaginal mucus. You seem to be far too much a child for me to seriously entertain.

Who the fuck do you think you are to mandate I answer your questions for any reason, it be a fool that thinks so!

[Arising_uk]

Your clitoris is swollen red from your saliva, and your lips are swollen red from your vaginal mucus. You seem to be far too much a child for me to seriously entertain.

Hmm ... I'd worry about the link with such thoughts and children.

Who the fuck do you think you are to mandate I answer your questions for any reason, it be a fool that thinks so!

And yet here you are upon a philosophy forum. What did you expect? To spout your 'wisdom' and for us to all fall down.

Find a general chat-room, it may suit your needs more, i.e. to play the role of your wife and to sit and listen without challenge.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Your clitoris is swollen red from your saliva, and your lips are swollen red from your vaginal mucus. You seem to be far too much a child for me to seriously entertain.

Hmm ... I'd worry about the link with such thoughts and children.

Who the fuck do you think you are to mandate I answer your questions for any reason, it be a fool that thinks so!

And yet here you are upon a philosophy forum. What did you expect? To spout your 'wisdom' and for us to all fall down.

Find a general chat-room, it may suit your needs more, i.e. to play the role of your wife and to sit and listen without challenge.

I never expect anything as that is indicative of preconceived notions, expectations are for cookie cutter fools that are merely parrots, "Polly want a cracker?"

I go into a situation with nothing but ears and then turn entire civilizations on their heads.

Grow up child, if only you were as important as you believed you were! Unless I'm treating someone in kind, I never tell anyone they're less that anyone else, quite the contrary! I see everyone as equals until they shit on me.

I believe you're just pissed because you thought you knew something about computer languages, and found out differently.

[Arising_uk]

I never expect anything as that is indicative of preconceived notions, expectations are for cookie cutter fools that are merely parrots, "Polly want a cracker?"

So you joined a philosophy forum with no interest nor knowledge of philosophy?

I go into a situation with nothing but ears and then turn entire civilizations on their heads.

'ow 'umble of you.

Grow up child, if only you were as important as you believed you were! ...

Says the man who turns entire civilizations on their heads.

Unless I'm treating someone in kind, I never tell anyone they're less that anyone else, quite the contrary! I see everyone as equals until they shit on me.

I'm willing to bet that this "until" raises its head fairly often.

I believe you're just pissed because you thought you knew something about computer languages, and found out differently.

Dear oh dear, you have no clue what a philosophical education entails if you think this would be an issue.

[SpheresOfBalance]

I never expect anything as that is indicative of preconceived notions, expectations are for cookie cutter fools that are merely parrots, "Polly want a cracker?"

So you joined a philosophy forum with no interest nor knowledge of philosophy?
I guess I can't blame you for your ignorance in this particular matter, as you've admitted that you don't concern yourself too much with what people write here in the forum, but if you had, this would never have been raised. Then again, with you, who knows?

I go into a situation with nothing but ears and then turn entire civilizations on their heads.

'ow 'umble of you.
You missed the metaphorical point of clarity of solution without preconception clouding the specific analysis.

Grow up child, if only you were as important as you believed you were! ...

Says the man who turns entire civilizations on their heads.
See above for the explanation of your limitations.

Unless I'm treating someone in kind, I never tell anyone they're less that anyone else, quite the contrary! I see everyone as equals until they shit on me.

I'm willing to bet that this "until" raises its head fairly often.
Sorry, clown, my initial engagement is purely defense, in retrospect, if I'm aware that it could be seen as offense or I'm advised that it seems so, I swiftly apologize.

I believe you're just pissed because you thought you knew something about computer languages, and found out differently.

Dear oh dear, you have no clue what a philosophical education entails if you think this would be an issue.
So you say! Always trying to get a leg up aren't we sweetie. Keep it up and eventually you'll beak your own back.

[Arising_uk]

I guess I can't blame you for your ignorance in this particular matter, as you've admitted that you don't concern yourself too much with what people write here in the forum, but if you had, this would never have been raised. Then again, with you, who knows?

Read again, I concern myself with the conversations that I'm having. I browse the others to see if theres anything of interest and that I think I might have something to contribute.

You missed the metaphorical point of clarity of solution without preconception clouding the specific analysis.

So you be saying any of your solutions any time soon? As I've asked a few times now.

See above for the explanation of your limitations.

A metaphor that is not easily understood is a fairly poor one.

Sorry, clown, my initial engagement is purely defense, in retrospect, if I'm aware that it could be seen as offense or I'm advised that it seems so, I swiftly apologize.

LMAO! I win my bet! What happened to treatment of equals?

So you say! Always trying to get a leg up aren't we sweetie. Keep it up and eventually you'll beak your own back.

I do! Double or nothing that you've never read the magazine nor any of those that are considered the canon of philosophy.

It may help with your angst as a large chunk of 'continental' philosophy is exactly concerned with existential angst. Cheaper than an analyst at least.

[SpheresOfBalance]

I guess I can't blame you for your ignorance in this particular matter, as you've admitted that you don't concern yourself too much with what people write here in the forum, but if you had, this would never have been raised. Then again, with you, who knows?

Read again, I concern myself with the conversations that I'm having. I browse the others to see if theres anything of interest and that I think I might have something to contribute.

You missed the metaphorical point of clarity of solution without preconception clouding the specific analysis.

So you be saying any of your solutions any time soon? As I've asked a few times now.
Actually, they're not solutions per se, but as someone once told me, 'knowing the problem is half the battle.' And I see this as typically true.

See above for the explanation of your limitations.

A metaphor that is not easily understood is a fairly poor one.
I guess it could be you! What do you think? Honestly, there's no accounting as to another's parallel awareness. This can also be a problem with jokes.

Sorry, clown, my initial engagement is purely defense, in retrospect, if I'm aware that it could be seen as offense or I'm advised that it seems so, I swiftly apologize.

LMAO! I win my bet! What happened to treatment of equals?
No, you failed yet again, as we are already engaged in adversarial bickering like two children. Take note of the word 'initial' above to see where your misconception tripped you up. Sure it's hard for me to stand down while in defensive mode.

So you say! Always trying to get a leg up aren't we sweetie. Keep it up and eventually you'll beak your own back.

I do! Double or nothing that you've never read the magazine nor any of those that are considered the canon of philosophy.
I attended university with philosophy as my major, but I quit due to funding. And FYI, I attempted to buy the latest edition of PN locally, but they failed to call me as promised, and because money is currently scarce, I haven't called them to see if they've sold out of their two copies yet. I can't believe my local B&N only gets two copies!

It may help with your angst as a large chunk of 'continental' philosophy is exactly concerned with existential angst. Cheaper than a analyst at least.
In the midst of the cloud of all our bickering you amaze me with what seems to be a legitimate attempt at being informative so as to help. This is the only reason I talk to you; for these brief moments that I potentially sense your compassion.

[Arising_uk]

Actually, they're not solutions per se, but as someone once told me, 'knowing the problem is half the battle.' And I see this as typically true.

I look forward to hearing what you think the problem is then. Although in philosophy having some kind of a solution is also expected as most can point to an issue.

I guess it could be you! What do you think? Honestly, there's no accounting as to another's parallel awareness. This can also be a problem with jokes.

Could be, which is why I prefer philosophy as in general it eschews the literary metaphor.

No, you failed yet again, as we are already engaged in adversarial bickering like two children. Take note of the word 'initial' above to see where your misconception tripped you up. Sure it's hard for me to stand down while in defensive mode.

You appear to have a different understanding of "initial" than me? "Defensive", like I said victim-hood and not a treatment of equals.

I attended university with philosophy as my major, but I quit due to funding. And FYI, I attempted to buy the latest edition of PN locally, but they failed to call me as promised, and because money is currently scarce, I haven't called them to see if they've sold out of their two copies yet. I can't believe my local B&N only gets two copies!

You can order it online.

In the midst of the cloud of all our bickering you amaze me with what seems to be a legitimate attempt at being informative so as to help. This is the only reason I talk to you; for these brief moments that I potentially sense your compassion.

You don't need much money to read the canon of philosophy. But just try answering questions would be enough for me. Park your 'ego' if you like.

[SpheresOfBalance]

You are a nihilist, a pessimist and a fatalist. Its why you dress-up much of your stuff with the 'one love and peace to all' guff. The point of living with others is that one also trades-off ones own selfish freedoms, its called politics.

All three of what you call me above, are commonly seen as having negative connotations.

As I post what I have, and you call it as you do, it can only mean that you deserve three labels as well, unfortunately they all have negative connotations as well.

Since what I post is nothing more than an honest assessment of modern day humans and in the face of this truth you refer to me using the three words above, that I've highlighted in red, it can only indicate that you are a lazy, selfish, liar, that may possibly have a disinformation agenda.

I am sorry for you!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Civilization is a construct of humanity that has many built in wrongs that are forced down the throats of the have-not's by the, at least in their twisted minds, elites; (from now on, referenced as "selfish fools,") as this is a title true to form.

My primary concern is the land issue; property? The American Indians had it right in so many ways, they had the truest form of democracy, the least nature destroying footprint, and saw that no man owns this earth we're on, to name but a few of the ways they were, more in keeping with truth, than the invading Europeans.

The construct of civilization is such that the wrongs of the past are held fast ensuring the 'selfish fools' maintain their property that was stolen from their fellow men and women centuries ago. Additionally, it maintains their base of, would be, slaves through being bound by the terms of the so called civilized construct.

Everyone wants peace and freedom, but the terms of it's keeping, should have only been put into place, after the wrongs of the past were put right, because now, as I said earlier, the terms of civilized behavior, lock in the status quo of inequality, as you'll never see any of the 'selfish fools,' attempting to right their legacy of wrongs, voluntarily.

[Arising_uk]

All three of what you call me above, are commonly seen as having negative connotations.

You mean you understand them as such. Me, I'm in a philosophy forum and as such I expect such stuff to be left outside but so much for your no expectations guff.

As I post what I have, and you call it as you do, it can only mean that you deserve three labels as well, unfortunately they all have negative connotations as well.

Since what I post is nothing more than an honest assessment of modern day humans and in the face of this truth you refer to me using the three words above, that I've highlighted in red, it can only indicate that you are a lazy, selfish, liar, that may possibly have a disinformation agenda.

I am sorry for you!

Just because what you express is your honest opinion does not necessarily make it a truth.

Funny that you've not asked whether I consider if the terms could apply to me. But I can't seem to find your terms in my philosophy dictionary so I think it clear who has the agenda here. Save your sorrow for yourself.

[SpheresOfBalance]

All three of what you call me above, are commonly seen as having negative connotations.

You mean you understand them as such. Me, I'm in a philosophy forum and as such I expect such stuff to be left outside but so much for your no expectations guff.

As I post what I have, and you call it as you do, it can only mean that you deserve three labels as well, unfortunately they all have negative connotations as well.

Since what I post is nothing more than an honest assessment of modern day humans and in the face of this truth you refer to me using the three words above, that I've highlighted in red, it can only indicate that you are a lazy, selfish, liar, that may possibly have a disinformation agenda.

I am sorry for you!

Just because what you express is your honest opinion does not necessarily make it a truth.

Funny that you've not asked whether I consider if the terms could apply to me. But I can't seem to find your terms in my philosophy dictionary so I think it clear who has the agenda here. Save your sorrow for yourself.

Get off your imaginary high horse and stop sucking yourself, fool. You my dear, are a would be elitist, a prisoner in your own mind. It's called language, and if the shoe fits...

[Arising_uk]

Get off your imaginary high horse and stop sucking yourself, fool. You my dear, are a would be elitist, a prisoner in your own mind. It's called language, and if the shoe fits...

Pray what is this prisoner in a mind o' high-one? As so far all I'm hearing from you is your bitterness and victim status dressed up with a lot of vague metaphorical allusions but very little substance.

[Arising_uk]

Civilization is a construct of humanity that has many built in wrongs that are forced down the throats of the have-not's by the, at least in their twisted minds, elites; (from now on, referenced as "selfish fools,") as this is a title true to form.

You really believe that someone sat done and constructed civilization as a plan?

My primary concern is the land issue; property? The American Indians had it right in so many ways, they had the truest form of democracy, the least nature destroying footprint, and saw that no man owns this earth we're on, to name but a few of the ways they were, more in keeping with truth, than the invading Europeans.

So you agree with Marx that property is theft and that it should be redistributed or at least owned in common?

I think your view of this noble savage a little naive. You think we should return to this 'democracy' where fifty percent were subservient? Where ones enemies were chattel? You think that if the Indians had not been invaded they would have stayed in their ways? Not changed and developed new methods of production as their population increased? Created new political structures, etc.

There's also a discussion going on about the impact of the Indians ancestors upon the ecology of the time.
http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/tse ... tocene.htm

The construct of civilization is such that the wrongs of the past are held fast ensuring the 'selfish fools' maintain their property that was stolen from their fellow men and women centuries ago. Additionally, it maintains their base of, would be, slaves through being bound by the terms of the so called civilized construct.

And your solutions?

Everyone wants peace and freedom, but the terms of it's keeping, should have only been put into place, after the wrongs of the past were put right, because now, as I said earlier, the terms of civilized behavior, lock in the status quo of inequality, as you'll never see any of the 'selfish fools,' attempting to right their legacy of wrongs, voluntarily.

And your solutions? As Marx had one but most appeared to not like it.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Get off your imaginary high horse and stop sucking yourself, fool. You my dear, are a would be elitist, a prisoner in your own mind. It's called language, and if the shoe fits...

Pray what is this prisoner in a mind o' high-one? As so far all I'm hearing from you is your bitterness and victim status dressed up with a lot of vague metaphorical allusions but very little substance.

So says a fool and a liar!