Abortion

[The Voice of Time]

I think my point of view on abortion can be stated as an emotional one and not a logical one when you get to the bottom.

I care for humans because it's my inclination to do so, and because a foetus is a human you would basically be killing "my human" because you would hurt "my feelings" by killing it. Asking me to not care for a foetus would be asking me to go against my nature (of course, I don't care about foetuses I don't have any relations to. Because they haven't yet entered my world of existence).

Girls who have undergone a voluntary abortion for instance would not make good mothers in my eyes in the sense that I would not be parent with them, since I don't like their ability to exclude others from their right to live, actually I would reckon it cowardice as a mother, a kind of weak motherhood, and although I can stand idly by others doing that, I would not want it for my own child. I would find it highly important that my child felt deeply and surely loved without the ability to doubt that fact as long as it is true.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Obviously, it's all about the hierarchy involved.

When I was young, I was originally Anti-Abortion, seeing it from my own selfish perspective.

Now that I've matured, I'm Anti-Abortion-Pro-Choice, because first and foremost is the mother. It is HER body, who am I to tell her what she can or cannot do with HER body. No one should ever be anyone's slave, in any such context.

I believe that you should try and talk them out of taking a life while pointing out that it may wind up as the emotional baggage of regret. But ultimately, it's their choice.

Anyone that uses Abortion as a Contraceptive should be charged, fined and imprisoned. If they're underage, then their parents should accompany them!

As far as I'm concerned, generally speaking, people aren't mature enough to have children until their thirties, although I'm sure there may be exceptions.

[The Voice of Time]

As far as I'm concerned, generally speaking, people aren't mature enough to have children until their thirties, although I'm sure there may be exceptions.

Some things happens with maturity, other things doesn't. If you think certain qualities necessitated by a parent is only or mostly inherent in people above 30', I think that is a highly biased statement for an argument. In such a rapidly progressive society as ours the old hierarchy is ever approaching an end. Old people turn from wise to stupid people as they neglect things associated with contemporary youth, technology etc.

If only people above 30' had been parents I'd reckon the world would be quite slowed down in its progress because young kids would be told old news and kept backwards instead of forwards. At the time of 15 years of age when born at mothers age of 30 the parent would already be 45!, at age 35 the parent would be 50! There are way too many stupid people above 50 I tell you, way too many people who can't do anything else than looking backwards. And this is not healthy. Children should meet the contemporary society, interact with the contemporary society, and master the contemporary society, of course not in the strict meaning of the word (contemporary does not have to mean corporate control of fashion and popular artists, more like "updated", "brought into relation with contemporary movements, ideas, products etc." Your kid does not have to love Rihanna, or listen to her or anything, but it should know "about her", and it should understand that there are a lot of other people awfully crazy about that person, and how pop-culture works etc. instead of being gathering dust on their mind before they reach 20!).

30-year-olds can be as backwards as young people can be premature, it does not say that either is better than the other. The importance lay in how the life turns out as a whole. There are many loving young mothers, and their children turn out great, and I mean MANY, and my emphasis on *MANY* is meant to mean that age, except for extremes perhaps, matters little to the overall outcome. Of course a 16-year-old mother would need a bit help from her own parents perhaps, but unless they are left completely, especially economically, to themselves they should be more than OKay. But a single mother at 35 would also have lots of problems, and if it is slightly better with the mother at age 35 I think we could both agree neither circumstances are much appreciated.

[chaz wyman]

If a child is not wanted when conceived, that child will be refused when born. It is every woman's right to make the decision to have or not to have, no matter what the circumstances of the conception were.

I agree.
But it is also incumbent upon them to use abortion with care and not as a substitute for responsible contraception.
Whilst I maintain the woman's right to choose I also retain the right to verbally admonish any woman who is a persistent aborter.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... tions.html


The new figures from the BPAS, Britain's leading abortion provider, reveal that 181,582 terminations were carried out in England and Wales in 2003, a 3.2 per cent increase on the previous year and a 15 per cent rise since 1993.
Among these some 57,241 - 32 per cent - were on women who had already undergone a termination at least once. This is almost a third higher than the 1993 figure.
Earlier this year it was revealed that one woman from London had six abortions in just 12 months.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... z1owtpjljT

[chaz wyman]

Obviously, it's all about the hierarchy involved.

When I was young, I was originally Anti-Abortion, seeing it from my own selfish perspective.

Now that I've matured, I'm Anti-Abortion-Pro-Choice, because first and foremost is the mother. It is HER body, who am I to tell her what she can or cannot do with HER body. No one should ever be anyone's slave, in any such context.

I believe that you should try and talk them out of taking a life while pointing out that it may wind up as the emotional baggage of regret. But ultimately, it's their choice.

Anyone that uses Abortion as a Contraceptive should be charged, fined and imprisoned. If they're underage, then their parents should accompany them!

As far as I'm concerned, generally speaking, people aren't mature enough to have children until their thirties, although I'm sure there may be exceptions.

Try as you might - you still can't really let go of your moral superiority can you?

So after how many repeat abortions would you send a woman to gaol?

Would that disclude the teenagers or under 30s that are too immature to have children?

[SpheresOfBalance]

Obviously, it's all about the hierarchy involved.

When I was young, I was originally Anti-Abortion, seeing it from my own selfish perspective.

Now that I've matured, I'm Anti-Abortion-Pro-Choice, because first and foremost is the mother. It is HER body, who am I to tell her what she can or cannot do with HER body. No one should ever be anyone's slave, in any such context.

I believe that you should try and talk them out of taking a life while pointing out that it may wind up as the emotional baggage of regret. But ultimately, it's their choice.

Anyone that uses Abortion as a Contraceptive should be charged, fined and imprisoned. If they're underage, then their parents should accompany them!

As far as I'm concerned, generally speaking, people aren't mature enough to have children until their thirties, although I'm sure there may be exceptions.

Try as you might - you still can't really let go of your moral superiority can you?
I'd rather stand on high moral ground, if that's how you see it, than to unnecessarily verbally abuse people's persona via name calling due to an over exaggerated opinion of self, like that of a megalo, or maybe you've just never actually grown up.


So after how many repeat abortions would you send a woman to gaol?
Not my job, and I wouldn't want the responsibility. It was just a point of how I see the gravity of it.


Would that disclude the teenagers or under 30s that are too immature to have children?
It seems you have a reading disability! Can you say granite!

[chaz wyman]

imprison the doctor?

When you are ready to play nicely, I'll respond to you.
But for now don't waste your time.
It was a lot nicer here when I was on your foes list.

[SpheresOfBalance]

This message I'm Violet.

Try as you might - you still can't really let go of your moral superiority can you?

I'd rather stand on high moral ground, if that's how you see it, than to unnecessarily verbally abuse people's persona via name calling due to an over exaggerated opinion of self, like that of a megalo, or maybe you've just never actually grown up.

See you on a pedestal with your trousers down and a clown mask over you pudenda.

Only a closet case such as yourself would visualize me with my trousers down and see it as a pudenda, something you could dig into, freak!

So after how many repeat abortions would you send a woman to gaol?

Not my job, and I wouldn't want the responsibility. It was just a point of how I see the gravity of it.

It is a stupid suggestion. It is reflective of your imagination.
If you can't answer that question then you need to realise how stupid the suggestion was.
1) 'contraception' avoids conception- with an abortion the conception is fait acompli. Thus an abortion is ipso facto NOT used as a contraceptive devise. As you can see from a previous post, I think it is wrong to use it instead of contraception. But how would you know which women were using it that way?
The newest lie detector based upon brain activity as seen via an fMRI can be 85-90% accurate you ignorant fuck.
Your idiotic suggestion that women "should be charged, fined and imprisoned." would make the abortion service complicit-
So they're mind readers all the sudden, you ignorant fuck, see MRI above, dipshit!
would you also imprison the doctor?
If he knew, you fucking moron!

You are fucking stupid aren't you!
Here let me make it easy for you dipshit (note the highlights):

Anyone that uses Abortion as a Contraceptive

You're so fucking caught up in the meaning of words that you get lost as to point, what a fool you are! Well you could never be an artist as you're incapable of switching perspectives, idiot!

I'll just call you Mengele from now on, you fucking baby killer, sympathizer!

How does it feel to look into the mirror, megalo?

[chaz wyman]

This message I'm Violet.

It suits your gayness



When you are ready to play nicely, I'll respond to you.
But for now don't waste your time.
It was a lot nicer here when I was on your foes list.

[SpheresOfBalance]

This message I'm Violet.

It suits your gayness
You're the one that visualizes my package, by your own admission, boy!


When you are ready to play nicely, I'll respond to you.
But for now don't waste your time.
It was a lot nicer here when I was on your foes list.

[chaz wyman]

This message I'm Violet.

It suits your gayness
You're the one that visualizes my package, by your own admission, boy!

You need to read that back. It was you that made it SEXUAL! I said your pudenda was covered up.
The Prurience is in your mind!!


When you are ready to play nicely, I'll respond to you.
But for now don't waste your time.
It was a lot nicer here when I was on your foes list.

[SpheresOfBalance]

It suits your gayness
You're the one that visualizes my package, by your own admission, boy!

You need to read that back. It was you that made it SEXUAL! I said your pudenda was covered up.
The Prurience is in your mind!!


Here you go you moron!

pudenda [pyoo-den-duhm]  
pu·den·dum    /pyuˈdɛndəm/ [pyoo-den-duhm]
noun, plural -da  /-də/ [-duh] Usually, pudenda. Anatomy .
the external genital organs, especially those of the female; vulva.

What a fucking 'nard,' you are! The point is, nard, that in your mind, (you said you saw me) you placed me in a nude state and then placed a clown mask over my package. You went there fuck wad, not I. There's no fucking way I'd visualize you that way, I just had a 1 week visit with my wife, smegma breath, all I'm thinking about is clam sauce. But I am feeling kind of punchy now that she's gone again, lets meet up in a local gym with a ring and have a friendly match. Oh yeah I forgot you like to hide behind a keyboard. Never mind, I have a feeling it wouldn't be very sporting anyway. I don't like taking candy from a baby. You baby killing Nazi mother fucker!



When you are ready to play nicely, I'll respond to you.
But for now don't waste your time.
It was a lot nicer here when I was on your foes list.

[reasonemotion]

"Whilst I maintain the woman's right to choose I also retain the right to verbally admonish any woman who is a persistent aborter."

I agree.

[chaz wyman]

"Whilst I maintain the woman's right to choose I also retain the right to verbally admonish any woman who is a persistent aborter."

I agree.

Yep. Although it is thankfully quite rare, there is evidence that a tiny minority of women tend to use it carelessly as an alternative to contraception.

[Kayla]

Whist the foetus is gestating it is part of the mother,

you are playing fast and loose with the notion of 'part' there chaz

it has a different blood type

it has a different brain

it has a different heart

you are stretching the notion of part there

A foetus is not yet a person.

begging the question are we

But one thing is for sure for those wanting to demand that all pregnancies go full terms; it is the matter of the enslavement of the woman to be forced to keep a foetus she does not want.

of course

just as women are enslaved by the idea that if you are still a virgin at 17 you are some kind of fugly loser