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by Atla
Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:05 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: New Discovery
Replies: 1501
Views: 20230

Re: New Discovery

Ah well, the hour's getting late.
by Atla
Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:05 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: New Discovery
Replies: 1501
Views: 20230

Re: New Discovery

The "new direction" is here. It has arrived. The United Nations for all its good work cannot change human nature. The "new direction" arrived with the advent of Jesus of Nazareth but human nature has not changed during two thousand years. The "new direction" arrived wi...
by Atla
Fri Oct 03, 2025 5:02 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: New Discovery
Replies: 1501
Views: 20230

Re: New Discovery

Have you tried blaming yourself for shortcomings you could potentially overcome? Maybe then you'll grow and won't make the same mistakes for another 20 years. Atla, it's a shame that you are going to lose out on a deeper level of understanding as to why this knowledge is not a theory or an assertio...
by Atla
Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:43 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: New Discovery
Replies: 1501
Views: 20230

Re: New Discovery

Have you tried blaming yourself for shortcomings you could potentially overcome? Maybe then you'll grow and won't make the same mistakes for another 20 years.
by Atla
Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:30 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Plato vs. Kant
Replies: 10
Views: 209

Re: Plato vs. Kant

The next thing VA will do is he'll lie to the AI, misrepresenting what was said, now actually agreeing with me and disagreeing with himself.
by Atla
Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:43 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion
Replies: 31
Views: 1982

Re: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion

Ok the guy really is stuck in the 18th century when we had rationalists and empiricists and then Kant. Maybe we should bring back the four elements too. This is getting too stupid. Wow...you really are dumb. Please use AI to speak for you instead. I just said "empiricism is a distinction and d...
by Atla
Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:10 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion
Replies: 31
Views: 1982

Re: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion

Ok the guy really is stuck in the 18th century when we had rationalists and empiricists and then Kant. Maybe we should bring back the four elements too. This is getting too stupid.
by Atla
Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:01 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion
Replies: 31
Views: 1982

Re: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion

I see. Context, context, context...you don't learn do you? I never said the AI was at fault. I said the context you used was at fault, by degree of self-negation. It was not the output...it was the input. The AI is not at fault at all. But to be specific. I don't argue for purely either side. I arg...
by Atla
Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:57 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion
Replies: 31
Views: 1982

Re: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion

Self-contradictory contextual assumption...as usual. Fluid premise. You cannot prove or disprove self-referentiality and linear regress are created constructs of the mind without creating a definition of "system" itself that follows the same course. Dually you cannot say such constructs a...
by Atla
Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:41 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion
Replies: 31
Views: 1982

Re: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion

Self-contradictory contextual assumption...as usual. Fluid premise. You cannot prove or disprove self-referentiality and linear regress are created constructs of the mind without creating a definition of "system" itself that follows the same course. Dually you cannot say such constructs a...
by Atla
Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:23 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion
Replies: 31
Views: 1982

Re: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion

Different premises: Is the following take problematic, because self-referentiality, infinite regresses, recursion, self-justification are features of abstract systems we create, but aren't known to occur in the concrete world? Summary only. Here is the take: Gödel Level 6 Incompleteness theorems, re...
by Atla
Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:16 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion
Replies: 31
Views: 1982

Re: ******The Universal Proto-Philosophy as Assertion

I don't care, I only read the first few paragrahs of your OP as I usually completely disagree with your premises, so I don't care what funny house of cards you build from them. Oh I know, an AI has to say it: Does the following text use the relative, circular nature of human thinking as an excuse to...
by Atla
Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:25 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Turing test
Replies: 81
Views: 1220

Re: Turing test

Remains to be seen, I intend to find out if I get the chance.
by Atla
Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:37 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Turing test
Replies: 81
Views: 1220

Re: Turing test

In the end, exploring those positive and negative states/realities is inconsequential imo, at least for everyday life in our current world. I gradually stopped doing it too. We don't talk about this stuff. Whether they would also be inconsequential under certain vastly different circumstances, remai...
by Atla
Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:28 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: The Act of Attention
Replies: 8
Views: 729

Re: The Act of Attention

Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:27 am "Attention is the potential from which the actual unfolds."


Discuss.
What if another person with attention wants the opposite thing and the two attentions conflict (equal attentions at the same level of reality, in case there are levels to reality)?