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Why are the “enlightened” Western news-media conveniently ignoring what well-educated, moderate (if not liberal) Palestinians have observed as being at the root of the current violent outbreak in Israel/Palestine? What was originally the very-odd low-tech rocket fired into low-populated dead dirt in Northern Israel by Palestinian extremist elements—for which their children may be blown to bits in retaliation by Israeli smart-bombs as ‘collateral damage’—has turned extremely ugly in large part because Palestinians day-by-day watch their territory turn into greater numbers of Jewish settlements.
Realistically, when your tiny piece of territory is totally blockaded by Israeli military, causing great hardships in Palestinian families’ lives, with little hope of nation statehood because your people’s traditional lands, i.e. bargaining clout in conveniently-delayed negotiations, are being gradually irreversibly disintegrated in favour of Jewish settlers’ interests.
Furthermore, while rabid Palestinian extremists are repeatedly ad nauseam quoted in the news-media as not recognizing Israel’s right to exist, there are totally-ignored extremist Israeli Jewish elements who openly declare that 1000 Arab lives are not worth a Jewish person’s single fingernail.

Bibi ought to paint "We love communism" on the nose cones of the nuclear missles that he uses to make peace with Iran and their puppets...

it hasn't even started

-Imp

It certainly is hard to see the recent violence by Israel as helping the situation in any way.
The only thing it will help is the election hopes of the current regime in Israel.

All the rhetoric on the world doe not diminish the simple fact that Gaza is little more than a concentration camp/ghetto, with the jack-boot on the oh so reasonable jewish foot.

Impenitent wrote:Bibi ought to paint "We love communism" on the nose cones of the nuclear missles that he uses to make peace with Iran and their puppets...

it hasn't even started

-Imp

Communism is not involved in this situation.

People of Palestinian heritage, at home and living abroad, must feel sick at seeing all of the surgical smart-bomb strikes taking place in their meager territory, left in ruins.
And what ever happened to the (contemporary, objectivity-corrupt mass-news-media) journalistic adage: “Comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable”?
Realistically, their tiny piece of territory is totally blockaded by Israeli military, causing great hardships in Palestinian families’ lives, with little hope of nation statehood because your people’s traditional lands, i.e. bargaining clout in conveniently-delayed negotiations, are being gradually irreversibly disintegrated in favor of Jewish settlers’ interests.

FrankGSterleJr wrote:People of Palestinian heritage, at home and living abroad, must feel sick at seeing all of the surgical smart-bomb strikes taking place in their meager territory, left in ruins.
And what ever happened to the (contemporary, objectivity-corrupt mass-news-media) journalistic adage: “Comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable”?
Realistically, their tiny piece of territory is totally blockaded by Israeli military, causing great hardships in Palestinian families’ lives, with little hope of nation statehood because your people’s traditional lands, i.e. bargaining clout in conveniently-delayed negotiations, are being gradually irreversibly disintegrated in favor of Jewish settlers’ interests.

Al-Jazeera, though not openly critical if Israel, and providing them a platform, provide a more balanced view, it seems than most other news services.

Just statistics : 138 Palestinian victims since the beginning of violence and only 8 in the Israeli side . Percentages have been always like throughout history .

Khalid wrote:Just statistics : 138 Palestinian victims since the beginning of violence and only 8 in the Israeli side . Percentages have been always like throughout history .

what follows from this

are you suggesting that had the palestinians succeeded in killing more israelis that would somehow weaken the rightness of their cause

are you suggesting that the palestinians deliberately act so as to keep casualties low

just statistics by themselves are meaningless

so tell us what you think they mean

Kayla wrote:

Khalid wrote:Just statistics : 138 Palestinian victims since the beginning of violence and only 8 in the Israeli side . Percentages have been always like throughout history .

what follows from this

are you suggesting that had the palestinians succeeded in killing more israelis that would somehow weaken the rightness of their cause

are you suggesting that the palestinians deliberately act so as to keep casualties low

just statistics by themselves are meaningless

so tell us what you think they mean

No I mean we should change , the Palestinian terrorists should stop firing rockets at the great chosen people , receive Israeli air strikes smilingly and give up their nation . We are horrible .

Khalid wrote: No I mean we should change , the Palestinian terrorists should stop firing rockets at the great chosen people , receive Israeli air strikes smilingly and give up their nation . We are horrible .

you are so cute when you pout

I think Palestinians shoot rockets out of utter frustration. They know they can never prevail against Israel and US imperial support, but they are just fed up with being ignored for over 60 years; with their tiny land being shrunk, their people ghettoised; their lands stolen; and now facing the indignity of Israeli apartheid, living a a concentration camp. Attempts at negotiation over the period have been treated with scorn.

kayla , I know that you are from Taxes and not a Jew , why are you so bothered for Israel this way ?

Khalid wrote:kayla , I know that you are from Taxes and not a Jew , why are you so bothered for Israel this way ?

bothered for israel in what way

i asked you a question - what do those numbers mean

instead you responded with childish petulance and trying to redirect the question

khalid

a couple of days ago i asked a jew going on about the numbers of rockets fired from gaza a similar question

what do those numbers mean

his answer paralleled yours - something along the lines fine so jews should just kill themselves to make life easier for palestinians

even the slightest questioning of the jewish or palestinian narrative brings out a very strong reaction of this sort from jews, palestinians and their respective supporters

but if someone is going to bring up numbers they should be willing to explain what they mean

Recent number published on media of victims in Gaza was about 170 and maybe 10 or less in Israeli side , the numbers mean the technological and military balance between the two sides can't be compared . Israel strikes with f 16 , meg and maybe raptors while Hamas fires poor old rockets . And percentage oh losses in lives has been always like this throughout history . They strike civilians with no mercy , have you heard of the family that was found killed in gaza a week ago ?