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Okay, so I'm workless. I kinda want a job, but today's work market is not designed for people like me. I have literally no talent of any value to the capitalistic society.

There's lots of things I'm half-good at, but those things won't make me a job. For instance I could, like pretty many else, theoretically translate books, but usually only the most hardcore people and most industrious can ever get a job at doing that. I would spend an eternity doing it, so nobody would want to hire me.

I can also work at a supermarket, but places like that usually want efficiency and dependability before anything, none of which I can offer. I'm slow and irregular.

Restaurants wants waiters, either schooled or not, you'll have to be efficient and manage stressing situations good, I can't say I do that either. Also I'm not very pretty and the places usually hires somewhat good-looking females.

I could work at storage places and with logistics or gas stations, but I have no driving certificate, especially not for small trucks, and many gas stations can't be reached by bus, and they also usually want somebody who "knows something", while I'm in the blue when it comes to cars.

I'm wondering about an issue of applied ethics: I most likely won't get any jobs I search for, and most likely I'm pretty bad at doing most of them even if I try to do good; is it ethical of me to search for jobs that if I get would only disappoint the leadership and their expectations? I'm very good at talking for myself, not so good at delivering, I could get a job I'm not qualified for personally, should I risk doing this to the people who hire me? Should I put my own need for a job before their need for an efficient, dependable and well-managing employee?

The Voice of Time wrote:Okay, so I'm workless. I kinda want a job, but today's work market is not designed for people like me. I have literally no talent of any value to the capitalistic society.

There's lots of things I'm half-good at, but those things won't make me a job. For instance I could, like pretty many else, theoretically translate books, but usually only the most hardcore people and most industrious can ever get a job at doing that. I would spend an eternity doing it, so nobody would want to hire me.

I can also work at a supermarket, but places like that usually want efficiency and dependability before anything, none of which I can offer. I'm slow and irregular.

Restaurants wants waiters, either schooled or not, you'll have to be efficient and manage stressing situations good, I can't say I do that either. Also I'm not very pretty and the places usually hires somewhat good-looking females.

I could work at storage places and with logistics or gas stations, but I have no driving certificate, especially not for small trucks, and many gas stations can't be reached by car, and they also usually want somebody who "knows something", while I'm in the blue when it comes to cars.

I'm wondering about an issue of applied ethics: I most likely won't get any jobs I search for, and most likely I'm pretty bad at doing most of them even if I try to do good; is it ethical of me to search for jobs that if I get would only disappoint the leadership and their expectations? I'm very good at talking for myself, not so good at delivering, I could get a job I'm not qualified for personally, should I risk doing this to the people who hire me? Should I put my own need for a job before their need for an efficient, dependable and well-managing employee?

Don't even try. Just starve to death. Be a martyr to 'deep thinkers' everywhere.

you made me laugh. Unfortunately I'd probably be forced to eat long before I'd die ^^

I thought in Scandinavia, they pay you not to work.. why work for a living when you have a bloated welfare state?

Your a Gamer aren't you...... something to do with that, or we know your into porn something to do with that, otherwise, security guard, plenty of spare time to read, packing stuff, I dunno, look on Seek or the equivalent you have over there. or you could go back to school.

johngalthasspoken wrote:I thought in Scandinavia, they pay you not to work.. why work for a living when you have a bloated welfare state?

because there's a pleasure in working as well, and I'd want that satisfied. It's not enough with a little money (and you'd still have to work with getting the money, as they can say stop if they think you are not taking their demands for finding a work position seriously), you need to feel valuable to the world also, at least I do. If you drink or smoke pot all day then perhaps you can make yourself forget about it, but not consuming much of any of those I think about it quite often.

I want to do something with my life, something which contributes value.

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reasonvemotion wrote:Your a Gamer aren't you...... something to do with that, or we know your into porn something to do with that, otherwise, security guard, plenty of spare time to read, packing stuff, I dunno, look on Seek or the equivalent you have over there. or you could go back to school.

What? Sell porn? (could be funny though)

I don't have the mentality for security guard, I'm too sensitive, can't be hard on people, and when I am hard I can easily be too hard. It's about that lack of regularity within me, I see things different than others and therefore I may not see the necessities of the club owner or mall owner.

Packing stuff is also within logistics, which usually requires certificates (at least where I'm searching jobs).

I could sell computer games ^^ But the market is already too tight for that (and not enough jobs to work for somebody else) and I have no experience which would make people put their faith in my capacities of covering loans (banks) and marketing their products (chain store for which I'd open a branch, this last one there is a market for in my city but I'd not get accepted by the chain)

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Be an internet warrior like FIH. That's a REALLY meaningful existence.

I've always wondered how FiH manages to write so often in this forum while still maintaining one of the most stressing jobs on the market ^^ unless he's an unemployed lawyer

Courier

reasonvemotion wrote:Courier

if you mean like the post office you'd need a certificate for driving a car (remember Norway is very big in size and lowly populated), and I'm too fat for being effective enough on a bicycle. I'd spend too much time.

The Voice of Time wrote:

reasonvemotion wrote:Courier

if you mean like the post office you'd need a certificate for driving a car (remember Norway is very big in size and lowly populated), and I'm too fat for being effective enough on a bicycle. I'd spend too much time.

Ok, so you are morbidly obese, smelly, socially inept, unskilled, rude and deeply annoying. Hmm, have you ever thought of going into politics?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

The Voice of Time wrote:

reasonvemotion wrote:Courier

if you mean like the post office you'd need a certificate for driving a car (remember Norway is very big in size and lowly populated), and I'm too fat for being effective enough on a bicycle. I'd spend too much time.

Ok, so you are morbidly obese, smelly, socially inept, unskilled, rude and deeply annoying. Hmm, have you ever thought of going into politics?

Well, yeah, but I hate political affiliation, so no.

VoT you could always flip burgers, it would be better than starving, I'm sure they would let you eat anything that fell on the floor.

thedoc wrote:VoT you could always flip burgers, it would be better than starving, I'm sure they would let you eat anything that fell on the floor.

MacDonalds is my nightmare... stressing, low pay and dull beyond my wildest dreams...

else some corner place could be less dull, where you actually talk to the customers for instance, but haven't seen much of those jobs on the market

corner places along with supermarkets and kiosks are in this country usually given through social networks and not so much official jobs as they should be