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The Master-Slave Dialectic begins in biology. First, there is the man-woman sexual relationship, in which a man must penetrate and invade the womb of a female. This is an inherently intrusive act of violence. Sexual penetration, also called "rape" if permission is not directly asked for by the male first, is a necessary evil. Sex is acceptable and "good" when a man must ask a woman's permission. Sex is unacceptable and "evil" when a man must not ask a woman's permission.

Today, this relationship between man and woman, is causing a worldwide, global cultural war between the Judeo-Christian Western world, and Islam. The notable difference between these two powerful cultures, is the man-woman sexual relationship. In the Western world, men are expected to "ask permission" for sex from women. Women have more value and power than men in this society. In the Eastern world, men are not expected to ask permission from sex. This isn't even conceivable to Eastern men and Islamic society. Why would permission be asked, what purpose would that serve? What is permission? Men have more value and power than women in this society.

Judeo-Christianity puts the value of women above men, men must ask for permission for sex.
Islam puts the value of men above women, men do not know what "permission" is, means, or why it exists.
Permission is "nonsense" in Islamic societies. It is impossible. It doesn't make sense at all.


However, once sex is had, in either system, children are produced by sex. While enslavement occurs first in the man-woman relationship, by a society valuing men over women, or women over men, enslavement occurs most powerfully in who controls the children produced. If men have power over women [Islam], then who has power over children? If women have power over men [Judeo-Christianity], then who has power over children? These answers are sub-cultural. In some sub-cultures, men have power over children. In other sub-cultures, women have power over children.
Furthermore, in Statism and Imperial societies, neither women nor men have power over children, but institutions and government has power over children.
This is known as slavery.

To enslave people, you must first begin to enslave all others. This is done through various means, but all toward the same end. The most immediate form of enslavement is physical. If you threaten others with bombs and guns, then you gain a temporary control over their behaviors, by an immediate threat of death. However, this only works for a short time, and not a long time. To enslave people for a very long period of time, then you must control, directly or indirectly, every single aspect of their entire lifetimes. This requires more than just physical force, it requires mental and emotional force.
You control how people think.
You control how people feel.
You control their education.
You control their language.

This begins in childhood. Enslavement of all humans of Earth, begins by wresting control of the biological parents of an infant, away from them. You must step in between the blood relationship of man-woman, between father and child, and between mother and child. You must destroy the authority of biological mother and father. After this is accomplished, infants no longer belong, are possessed by biology, but are instead possessed by culture, education, and Memes.

Atthet wrote:The Master-Slave Dialectic begins in biology. First, there is the man-woman sexual relationship, in which a man must penetrate and invade the womb of a female. This is an inherently intrusive act of violence. Sexual penetration, also called "rape" if permission is not directly asked for by the male first, is a necessary evil. Sex is acceptable and "good" when a man must ask a woman's permission. Sex is unacceptable and "evil" when a man must not ask a woman's permission.

Today, this relationship between man and woman, is causing a worldwide, global cultural war between the Judeo-Christian Western world, and Islam. The notable difference between these two powerful cultures, is the man-woman sexual relationship. In the Western world, men are expected to "ask permission" for sex from women. Women have more value and power than men in this society. In the Eastern world, men are not expected to ask permission from sex. This isn't even conceivable to Eastern men and Islamic society. Why would permission be asked, what purpose would that serve? What is permission? Men have more value and power than women in this society.

Judeo-Christianity puts the value of women above men, men must ask for permission for sex.
Islam puts the value of men above women, men do not know what "permission" is, means, or why it exists.
Permission is "nonsense" in Islamic societies. It is impossible. It doesn't make sense at all.


However, once sex is had, in either system, children are produced by sex. While enslavement occurs first in the man-woman relationship, by a society valuing men over women, or women over men, enslavement occurs most powerfully in who controls the children produced. If men have power over women [Islam], then who has power over children? If women have power over men [Judeo-Christianity], then who has power over children? These answers are sub-cultural. In some sub-cultures, men have power over children. In other sub-cultures, women have power over children.
Furthermore, in Statism and Imperial societies, neither women nor men have power over children, but institutions and government has power over children.
This is known as slavery.

To enslave people, you must first begin to enslave all others. This is done through various means, but all toward the same end. The most immediate form of enslavement is physical. If you threaten others with bombs and guns, then you gain a temporary control over their behaviors, by an immediate threat of death. However, this only works for a short time, and not a long time. To enslave people for a very long period of time, then you must control, directly or indirectly, every single aspect of their entire lifetimes. This requires more than just physical force, it requires mental and emotional force.
You control how people think.
You control how people feel.
You control their education.
You control their language.

This begins in childhood. Enslavement of all humans of Earth, begins by wresting control of the biological parents of an infant, away from them. You must step in between the blood relationship of man-woman, between father and child, and between mother and child. You must destroy the authority of biological mother and father. After this is accomplished, infants no longer belong, are possessed by biology, but are instead possessed by culture, education, and Memes.

It has nothing to do with 'Judeo-Christianity' and everything to do with enlightenment, education, and social evolution. It wasn't very long ago that women and children were considered the property of the husband, not long since rape was considered impossible within marriage...

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:It has nothing to do with 'Judeo-Christianity' and everything to do with enlightenment, education, and social evolution. It wasn't very long ago that women and children were considered the property of the husband, not long since rape was considered impossible within marriage...

Now, men and children are considered property of the wife. This is slavery of men, an inversion of slavery. It is still slavery. It's called "inverting the inverted". Whereas once blacks were slaves to whites in the U.S....Jews and cultural marxists want whites to become slaves to blacks. This is also why Obama was elected into office. It is a reverse form of the Master-Slave dialectic, an inversion of the inverted.
There is no such thing as equality in human history. Slavery is never dead or destroyed. Mastery and Slavery is always, always there. Either man is master over woman, and she is the slave. Or woman is master over man, and he is the slave.
There is no compromise, here. You are either in control of yoruself, your own destiny, or you are not.

Atthet wrote:Now, men and children are considered property of the wife.

No they aren't. Your emotional response to a bit of female emancipation is hysterical, Atty!

mickthinks wrote:No they aren't. Your emotional response to a bit of female emancipation is hysterical, Atty!

Yes they are, micktriestothink.
Men and children are property of the wife, now. This is due to the favoritism of women, over men, inherent within the Judaic faith and ideology. Christianity devoid of Judaism, what is this? Do you remember the "dark ages", when men served kings, and the divine right of kings ruled the European lands? Do you remember the Roman patriarchies, powerful as they were? Do you remember when men were powerful, fierce, and forces to be respected and reckoned with? That is the past, not today.
Today, Judeo-Christianity has perverted the strength and will of men. Nietzsche cried out, "God is dead!" This is what he meant, the death and castration of men.

The clipping of mankind's wings, handicapping the will of all men across the world. Islam resisted this. Islam puts man firmly above woman. This is causing the global cultural conflict, and may begin a world war 3.

Since the "beginning of time" men have manipulated women to control their sexuality. Marriage has been an attempt in the past to maintain this control over women. As has been discussed previously on this forum, (not in full agreement) men have gone to greater lengths in some countries with this control by demanding women cover themselves completely and monitoring their movements. Honor killings, are nothing less than murder. Misogyny or "enslavement" as the author of this post chooses to call it, is in fact oppression of women, which can ultimately lead to sexual and physical abuse in many cases.

Women have gained ground, in areas of legal and moral circumstances, but in certain countries of the world they have a long way to go, because they are fighting ingrained male tendencies since evolution, that are played out still today.

Since the "beginning of time" women have manipulated men to control our sexuality. Marriage has been an attempt in the past to maintain this control over men. As has been discussed previously on this forum, (not in full agreement) women have gone to greater lengths in some countries with this control by demanding men cover themselves completely and monitoring their movements. Honor killings, are nothing less than murder. Misandry or "enslavement" as I choose to call it, is in fact oppression of men, which can ultimately lead to sexual and physical abuse in many cases.

Men have gained ground, in areas of legal and moral circumstances, but in certain countries of the world they have a long way to go, because they are fighting ingrained female tendencies since evolution, that are played out still today.

You show a remarkable improvement in your English and expression, of course, all due to woman's influence.

reasonvemotion wrote:You show a remarkable improvement in your English and expression, of course, all due to woman's influence.

allemotion noreason, I appreciate your contribution in my thread, and highly respect you as a thinker. I value your opinion very highly. Want to go on a date with me, even though I'm prettier than you are?

Atthet wrote:Yes [men and children are considered property of the wife], micktriestothink.

No they aren't, Atty! You have seen a whip taken out of men's hands and you call that 'enslavement of men'! I think you should calm down a bit.

mickthinks wrote:No they aren't, Atty! You have seen a whip taken out of men's hands and you call that 'enslavement of men'!

When the whip is taken out of men's hands, then he is a slave, and no longer the master, yes.

mickthinks wrote:I think you should calm down a bit.

YOU CALM DOWN!

Atthet wrote:When the whip is taken out of men's hands, then he is a slave, and no longer the master, yes.

Slave and Master aren't the only two possibilities, dude!