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Physics and Tautology.
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Where did the masses for ‘ big bang ‘ come from ?
These masses came from surrounding space.
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Where did these masses from surrounding space come from ?
These masses came from ‘big bang’.
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Why he is poor ?
Because he is stupid.
Why he is stupid?
Because he is poor.
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Physics and Tautology.
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1
Where did the masses for ‘ big bang ‘ come from ?
These masses came from surrounding space.
2
Where did these masses from surrounding space come from ?
These masses came from ‘big bang’.
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Why is he poor ?
Because he is stupid.
Why is he stupid?
Because he is poor.
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The ‘big bang’ doesn’t give answer to the question:
where did the mass come from ?
To understand this we need go out from ‘ big bang’ .
But ‘ the big bang theory is an effort to explain what happened
at the very beginning of our universe. Prior to that moment there
was nothing;’
So, . . where do we go out ?
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Our Universe is encapsulated and grows from the other/odd (ordered) phase of the matter, from the "future" :)

So, . . where do we go out ?
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If we go out of mass then it can be only one possibility -
- we will enter into an empty space.
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‘ A world without masses, without electrons, without an
electromagnetic field is an empty world. Such an empty
world is flat. But if masses appear, if charged particles
appear, if an electromagnetic field appears then our world
becomes curved. Its geometry is Riemannian, that is,
non- Euclidian.’
/ Book ‘Albert Einstein’ The page 116 . by Leopold Infeld. /
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Cerveny wrote:Our Universe is encapsulated and grows from the other/odd (ordered) phase of matter, from the "future" :)

You would imagine the "future" (for example) as unordered fragments/elements of the space that sediments/condensates/crystallizes onto our (hence growing) Universe...

socratus wrote:So, . . where do we go out ?
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If we go out of mass then it can be only one possibility -
- we will enter into an empty space.
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‘ A world without masses, without electrons, without an
electromagnetic field is an empty world. Such an empty
world is flat. But if masses appear, if charged particles
appear, if an electromagnetic field appears then our world
becomes curved. Its geometry is Riemannian, that is,
non- Euclidian.’
/ Book ‘Albert Einstein’ The page 116 . by Leopold Infeld. /
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Sorry, Einstein's world does not offer any way-out :(

Cerveny and socratus, you've done a good job in showing that even a "hard" science, like physics, contains deep mystery, or at least ideas that go against intuition.

Socratus, you are largely uninformed about this topic. The Big Bang is NOT "THE ORIGIN" of the universe, it's just the earliest known origin for how things are today. There are numerous people working on finding the origins of The Big Bang, and some have some answers. Check it out first before asking such questions.

The Voice of Time wrote:There are numerous people working on finding the origins of The Big Bang, and some have some answers. Check it out first before asking such questions.

I'd be extremely surprised if these answers consist of anything beyond metaphysical speculation. Could you perhaps provide a link or a name at least?

Notvacka wrote:

The Voice of Time wrote:There are numerous people working on finding the origins of The Big Bang, and some have some answers. Check it out first before asking such questions.

I'd be extremely surprised if these answers consist of anything beyond metaphysical speculation. Could you perhaps provide a link or a name at least?

No, you misunderstood. I didn't mean full answers, I meant speculative ideas (though not metaphysics), but I have no familiarity with it directly, as it is so difficult to study so not much worth checking out as ideas lack futility, what I meant about checking out was the Big Bang theory itself, as that seemed entirely misunderstood.