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In which reference frame the Higgs boson was found ?
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Physics World: Planning the world's next collider
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The Sad Truth
If you cannot resolve the vacuum energy crisis,
if you cannot explain the fine structure constant,
if you cannot identify the dark matter,
if you cannot predict the masses of fundamental particles,
if you cannot explain why galaxies exist, or come in radically
different flavors like ellipticals and spirals,

then you do not know diddely-squat about the cosmos.

High-energy physicists are making it up as they go.
Here's a nice example: If you cannot find a free quark,
make it a "law" that they are hidden inside other particles (just so!).

It's all Ptolemaic epicycles in high-energy physics,
no matter how vociferously they sell it to a credulous public.

Robert L. Oldershaw
Discrete Scale Relativity


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‘ In which reference frame the Higgs boson was found ? ‘
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Comment by Gary
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Hi Israel,

THAT is an excellent question. As members of this board,
we understand that there is no absolute reference frame.
But quantum mechanics assumes there is. I believe QM
is wrong in that respect. If the Higgs existed in an absolute
frame, then rest mass would vary with its speed relative
to that frame because of the Higgs field.

The same problem exists with virtual particles. The average
momentum of all those particles popping in and out of existence
must be zero, yes? So how could an observer in another frame
see virtual particles with zero average momentum, too?

There aren't any easy solutions to these problems.

Gary

I wrote my opinion about LHC in 2008.
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- The mad CERN’s way.
14 Sep 2008 16:14 GMT
by Israel Sadovnik Socratus
http://www.spacekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/a ... -s-project

The Higgs Boson May Have 'Five Faces'

And they've come up with a doozy:
maybe there isn't just one Higgs boson
(the as-yet-undiscovered subatomic particle believed to impart mass);
maybe, instead, there are five different versions,
with similar masses but different electric charges.

http://news.discovery.com/space/the-hig ... faces.html

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Maybe now we have 5 bosons , . . . . maybe more . . .?
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Physicists searched for one boson and found 5 different bosons.
Who will say now: ‘God Does Not Play Dice’ ?
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Another post.
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Concerning CERN:
Cliff Burgess on the discovery of the Higgs boson
http://phys.org/news/2012-07-cern-cliff ... higgs.html
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My comment.
Dirac was one of the first who said how vacuum is important.
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
/ Paul Dirac ./
And Cliff Burgess ( himself a theoretical particle physicist
and professor of physics and astronomy ) forgot Dirac name.

In 1928 Dirac said that ‘ virtual particles’ exist in vacuum
but until now we don’t know their essence.
Why?
Because as ‘a theoretical particle physicist and professor
of physics and astronomy’ said :
‘Suppose you were interested in the properties of fish and how
they move and why some fish move faster than others given
the same amount of effort. This would be very hard if you
did not understand what water was.
In order to understand properly the motion of fish, you must first
also understand the environment through which they move.’
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It means that to know properties of fish- particles at first we need
to understand environment – VACUUM through which the
fish- particles move.
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But today.
Today physicists refuse to take vacuum as a real conception
as a fundament of Universe.
Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’
by Steven Weinberg. Page 138.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /
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Therefore theoretical physics full with abstractions and puzzles.
P.S.
The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
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Even if something as "higgs boson" exists, even if it, what they observed, was a "higgs boson" no substantial problem of present physics would be solved.
On the other hand, the 4-d structure of the vacuum (physical space) must be tightly related with the spectrum of elementary particles ...

Cerveny wrote:Even if something as "higgs boson" exists,
even if it, what they observed, was a "higgs boson"
no substantial problem of present physics would be solved.

On the other hand, the 4-d structure of the vacuum (physical space)
must be tightly related with the spectrum of elementary particles ...

To find "higgs boson" they need hogh enery and vacuum.
Questions:
Where did the ‘high energy’ in the Nature come from?
What is source of the ‘high energy’ in the Nature ?
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In my opinion in the real Nature only Vacuum T=0K
can have infinite energy.

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