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What am I describing? Not a puzzle - need help.

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:02 am
by SeanDyer
Recently I've been getting right down to the basics and thinking about the foundations of my ethical belief. My reasoning has led me down the path of utilitarianism and that is what I'm currently exploring. I seem to have come to an unconventional conclusion. If someone will point me in the right direction and tell me what I am describing below then I'm sure you'll save me a lot of time that would otherwise be spent frustratedly skimming articles on the internet. Thanks.

Is it better that 1000 people experience a 5 on the suffering scale (with a higher number meaning worse suffering), or that 1 person experiences a slightly worse 5.1? If we assume that the 1000 do not know each other and do not have their suffering increased through some such means as sympathy for another of the 1000 people, and that no one observes the subjects mentioned suffering and suffers themselves through compassion then I would say it is better 1000 people suffer at a 5 than 1 person suffers at a 5.1. Suffering is bad because it is negative experience. Once you acknowledge this it becomes clear that it is experience that counts when attempting to reduce suffering. Whilst in the first instance there may be more suffering overall in the universe, it is not being experienced by any one agent. There is less suffering being experienced among the 1000 people than in the 1 person. In the second instance there is a higher level of suffering being experienced, and it is thus the less preferable situation.

As I said above, if someone could point me in the right direction so I can continue my considerations I would appreciate it. Thanks for your time.

Re: What am I describing? Not a puzzle - need help.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 4:13 pm
by SeanDyer
No one can give me a name? A theory, or a philosopher? A book, an article?

Re: What am I describing? Not a puzzle - need help.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:33 am
by Impenitent
utilitarian ethics: mill, spencer, bentham

-Imp

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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:47 pm
by mickthinks
Rawls develops a similar view in his Theory of Justice, I think, though he isn't primarily concerned so much with physical pain as with fairness.

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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:54 am
by SeanDyer
Thanks for the info guys I'll check it out. Imp, could you be a bit more specific? If not thanks anyway.

Re: What am I describing? Not a puzzle - need help.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:23 am
by Impenitent

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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:23 am
by SeanDyer
Thanks for the links, I'll check them out now.

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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:37 am
by fiveredapples
I seem to have come to an unconventional conclusion. If someone will point me in the right direction and tell me what I am describing below then I'm sure you'll save me a lot of time that would otherwise be spent frustratedly skimming articles on the internet
Sure, no problem. Look up: Ethical simpleton.