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Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:18 pm
by socratus
Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.
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Wood is itself a matter.
Wood is itself a form, a geometrical form.
A cupboard made of wood is a real whole of form and matter.
Geometrical form and matter are 'grown together' in it.
No form exist without matter.
Nor can there be matter without form.
But in micro-physics, physicists took up another conception.
According to this doctrine matter does exist,
but the form is not a physical object.
The form is disappeared from the physical reality.
They works with a 'point'.
Question.
Isn’t physics a science of the matter, form, energy
and motion ? Aren’t all these subjects 'grown together' ?
Take away one subject and you have all modern paradoxes
in the physics.
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Israel Socratus.
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Re: Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:51 am
by Cerveny
The “form” is the pure ideal category. The form has no natural substance. The “form” (as well as math category) is artificial; it is a tool, an expression, a name of (particular) representation of being, it is an information… Form is expression of a structure, expresion of the order. Forms last… The matter is a possibility that have gotten an order, expressed in forms. The being is a permanent merging of possibility (energy, stem cells of being, prematter) and idea. Matter is “mix” of energy and ideas.
But matter is never ideal. The limits exist only in math, in the kingdom of the ideas. There are no singularities (limits) in the real world. We can “name” (we can “measure”) only “things” (expressed forms) with limited values of physical properties, with at least one nonzero physical value - on the other hand. The creation (evolution) of matter is liable to the limited speed of causality spreading. So it suffers by lack of time. Thus the minimal/basic structural elements exist. There is no time to create more detail elements then elementary particles are, or better, then elements of physical space (aether) are. New (Planck) time layers of Universe are coming to cover, to fix, to glue (“elaborated”) presence into the history too soon. The time goes too fast to the matter is able to reach any ideal limits, to 10^n<>10^n+1 for every natural n in the real world :)

Re: Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:15 pm
by Cerveny
Every matter is thus expressed, is shown, in some (grained) form. Physical "empty" space - the vacuum is grained too. It is not "empty" at all, it is only homogenous. There can be used the analogy with a computer "empty" (formatted) memory - It has certain capacity, it is prepare to accept certain non-homogeneity, certain information. (Physical) Universe has limited capacity too (in particular time point). There is possible to create limited number of various configurations of disorders, of "defects" - of elementary particles: Someone is used to enumerate the points, others enumerate the edges or triangles or any other entity in/of such disorder. If we analyze physical computer memory we can find there some bits or (from the other, integral view) hexadecimal digits or characters or even complicated entities. But the Universe is a real “object”, with nonzero temperature. The more complicated (structural) defects are less stabile, less resilient against thermal waving of space, against thermal phonons/photons. In addition the Universe is liable to common “development/progress” and grows; it crystallizes from another universal (less/odd ordered) phase from the “Future” Universe (its capacity) thus grows… by similar way as crystals with their defect grow :)

Re: Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:40 pm
by Cerveny
Let me to bring here some motion. Trembling surface of 4D Universe – the point of “now” – our fair 3D space is (as is commonly known) rather uncertain. It is the border where the fixed, frozen History is touched by free, by common physical laws unbound Future (I personally have feeling the Future can be a kingdom of Ideas :). Quantum theory operates on this border by inaccurate term, by so called “measurement”. It should use the more exact term, which frees QM of anthropologic aspect - it should use the term “interaction” (instead). Every such interaction (let us say a "measurement") fixes, glues one element of the Future, certain “stem” cell, into possible, particular state (form) of (local) Universe. As the history (Universe) grows, crystallites, by such process, our space (surface of history) grows too. The smooth surface is empty (physical) space – vacuum and scarred surface is some matter (elementary particles).

We can imagine that such growing does not run by the same speed on every places of space. On one place the time can run by different speed in comparison of the other. (But) if we consider some as elastic surface tension, the speed of growing is smoothed – we can consider the surface (of Universe - physical space) tension as the Energy equivalent. I personally can imagine waving of space surface, waving of (forehead of) time. And I tend to connect such waving with extrasensory communication (for example the slight future forecast) .

Sorry for overstraining your patience :)

Something at the end

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:16 pm
by Cerveny
It is typical for present physics that the physicists try to explain remote, bizarre, in the real world unreachable, limit phenomena instead of trying to explain omnipresent phenomena as is the mechanism of limiting of the common motion speed, or how can be such limit related with an electric properties of the vacuum, or explain the mechanism of inertial motion, the reason of uncertainty of the process “now”, the wave-corpuscular dualism… Physicists lost the brave to open new page of physics, they can not dare to throw out the useless weight of TR, to leave an incorrect time-space concept with obscure metrics. I would like to know where is information about the direction of (inertial) neutrino saved, for example. Why to do not study mc^2 as a simple contribution (kinetic energy) of universal sqrt(2)*c motion (rising) for example? I am curious whether I live to see being teaching in the physics something else new then a new dimension in the string theory :(

Re: Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:11 am
by dupko
Cerveny wrote:It is typical for present physics that the physicists try to explain remote, bizarre, in the real world unreachable, limit phenomena instead of trying to explain omnipresent phenomena as is the mechanism of limiting of the common motion speed, or how can be such limit related with an electric properties of the vacuum, or explain the mechanism of inertial motion, the reason of uncertainty of the process “now”, the wave-corpuscular dualism… Physicists lost the brave to open new page of physics, they can not dare to throw out the useless weight of TR, to leave an incorrect time-space concept with obscure metrics. I would like to know where is information about the direction of (inertial) neutrino saved, for example. Why to do not study mc^2 as a simple contribution (kinetic energy) of universal sqrt(2)*c motion (rising) for example? I am curious whether I live to see being teaching in the physics something else new then a new dimension in the string theory :(
That quite interesting point of view

Re: Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:20 pm
by Cerveny
dupko wrote:...
That quite interesting point of view
Thanks for appreciation :)
It should be known the present physics has lost its face. They spend much millions Euros to "find" such insignificant and unreliable “discovery” as "Higgs's boson" is.
Why they do not insert such effort to clearing "dark matter" problem that depreciates whole physics, for example.
Are they such unable (perhaps lazy) to solve deep logical paradoxes of present physics to they must elope in unverifiable, senseless experiments?

Re: Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:14 pm
by apaosha
Good points, Cerveny.

I wonder does the minds habitual reliance on Form influence scientist's conceptualizations when they are attempting to explain their results. For example, the wave/particle duality. Is it both in reality or is it that human preconceptions demand it to be what it is not?

Re: Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:07 pm
by Cerveny
As for wave-corpuscular duality the thing is that the "wave" properties is related to an elastic properties of the space and the "corpuscular" properties is related with a discrete structure of physical space (there are elastic coupling between elements of the space). If we add local energy enough to tear particular coupling, complementary structural defects (opposite particle pair) appear.

As for "quantum" uncertainty, we should realize the “measurement” (better “interaction”) makes the system to “react”. The deeper information we need, the longer we have to act and the more “side effects” we cause.