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http://www.religiousworlds.com/mystic/ashgita.html

good for inducing lucids.

3.11 // Seeing this world as pure illusion, and devoid of any interest in it, how should the strong-minded person, feel fear, even at the approach of death?

7.5 // I am but pure consciousness, and the world is like a conjuror's show, so how could I imagine there is anything there to take up or reject?

15.4 // You are not the body, nor is the body yours, nor are you the doer of actions or the reaper of their consequences. You are eternally pure consciousness the witness, in need of nothing - so live happily.

I've always wondered: does such experiences of small or great enlightenments as found in Far East philosophy *stay* in your head afterwards? Or is it like a porn-movie you experience an ecstasy of but afterwards forget as if it had been any ordinary movie?

I've never really forgotten this one.

I saw the vid and read some more, interesting, but this metaphysics isn't as much about proof as they are about the attitude implications. Eternal Recurrence would in physics only mean that things that expand themselves contract back to their former positions, and would do so indefinitely many times, Nietzsche however means it as modifying factor of attitude towards the world, his amor fati, as you most likely already know. Things doesn't have to go back to anything close to similar situations for similar outcomes to recur.

doolhoofd wrote:http://www.religiousworlds.com/mystic/ashgita.html

good for inducing lucids.

3.11 // Seeing this world as pure illusion, and devoid of any interest in it, how should the strong-minded person, feel fear, even at the approach of death?

7.5 // I am but pure consciousness, and the world is like a conjuror's show, so how could I imagine there is anything there to take up or reject?

15.4 // You are not the body, nor is the body yours, nor are you the doer of actions or the reaper of their consequences. You are eternally pure consciousness the witness, in need of nothing - so live happily.

Got a 404 error. 3 year old topic by the way. Anyone have the original movie? Probably not, it's not like anyone saves backups of anything besides porn on their pcs. After the fall of man, the only living record of mankind's existence would be a stone dildo. I guarantee it.

Astravakra Gita is a non-dualist philosophy text, you can find it translated online for free, but I recommend the English translation "Heart of Awareness".

It was written by a zombie (not kidding, supposedly what we would today call a undead individual) who went though a presentation of a theory that was is visually observed is the totality of the universe, and offered arguments and meditative techniques to gain this universal awareness of monism. Best book of it's kind, and ironically deeply dualistic, in every line.

EchoesOfTheHorizon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:29 am Astravakra Gita is a non-dualist philosophy text, you can find it translated online for free, but I recommend the English translation "Heart of Awareness".

It was written by a zombie (not kidding, supposedly what we would today call a undead individual) who went though a presentation of a theory that was is visually observed is the totality of the universe, and offered arguments and meditative techniques to gain this universal awareness of monism. Best book of it's kind, and ironically deeply dualistic, in every line.

my mind is not ready for this text, i have a small headache and general lethargy throughout my whole body. but i will try to put a sticky note and read it. How important is it to read from a 1-10?

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The Voice of Time wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:29 pm I've always wondered: does such experiences of small or great enlightenments as found in Far East philosophy *stay* in your head afterwards? Or is it like a porn-movie you experience an ecstasy of but afterwards forget as if it had been any ordinary movie?

I am assuming it is a perception, or way of seeing the world and reality.

EchoesOfTheHorizon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:46 pm1

10 being the highest priority?

Yep, cause Non-Dualism has the ironic catch that, if your trying to learn it or do it with any degree of intentionality, you are doing it wrong.

But that of course is from the perspective of Non-Duality that it is a 1, even the author would note it would be a 1. Yet, it is a essential text for anyone tackling the nature of cognition, or the Dual/Non Dual divide across world civilizations. The terminology of Dualism usually used here, such as Cartesian Dualism, or of Non-Duality, such as Leibniz's Monism, are weak forms at best of the Indian system, and strongly recommend tackling texts such as this prior to tackling Aristotle or Theophrastus, in the discussions they had of Duality and Non-Duality.

A particular translation stands out as good (internet versions are kinda sucky):

The Heart of Awareness: A Translation of the Ashtavakra Gita
Translation by Thomas Byrom

https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Awareness- ... 1570628971

It is a good read, that translation. It will come off as weird to you, shockingly stupid and short sighted at times, but hey, that's non-duality. Many try it cause they think it is spiritual, as in Religious but not Spiritual, but in actuality it is damn near the ultimate of atheism one can ever get. It was a alternative belief system that eventually knocked Buddhism out of India, most schools of thought in India address and even incorporate in some way the Dualism / Non-Dualism debate.

Plus it isn't a long text, or hard on terminology. Fairly simple to grasp. Fulfills the solution to your worry about Eternal Return of the Nietzscheans variety.