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Democracy, religion, women and equality. Justice demands affirmative action.

Democracy, Religion and Secularism all talks a great line of freedom and equality for all. Our Western democracies and Religions preach this wonderful line; while at the same time forcing our women to walk behind our men and denying women true equality. True democracy and religions are then a sham. We have no working model, political or religious with true equality. We all contribute to this hypocrisy.

We point the finger at the East and their lack of equality with scorn, as we should; while ignoring the fact that we in the West are not doing as we preach or walking our talk. We men have yet to give our women the justice and equality they deserve. Our women have also been delinquent in their social duty by not being more forceful in their demands for equality and justice. Women lead the list of those that have historically been oppressed, thanks mainly to religions, and democracies and religions needs to acknowledge this real fact. They must enact affirmative action to be seen as working toward a truly just society.

It is time for men and women to recognize that what women have suffered enough discrimination and denigration without just cause long enough. We as societies have enacted affirmative action laws for the oppressed before. I think we should admit to the fact we have truly oppressed women and initiate new laws to move equality for women at a faster pace.

Both men and women have ignored basic social justice and we should all be ashamed of ourselves. You will feel this shame if you, male or female, have an ounce of social responsibility. We have a duty not only to ourselves but also to the coming generations.

Justice delayed is justice denied. Justice demands that we act and our women and female children are crying out for equality.

Affirmative action for women should be placed higher our social justice agendas. Both at the political level and religious level.

Do you agree?

Regards
DL

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What specific objections do you have about the USA?

bobevenson wrote:What specific objections do you have about the USA?

Not so much the U S but all the West.

I put this O P up as a trial balloon to see just what the general consensus and reality was out there. My working career was centered on sales and this allowed me access too many and varied locations. Everywhere from the factory floor to the president’s office. I come from a small town and small city environment and still see men doing the chauvinist thing. I also saw women still having to use their bodies as tools to gain and keep jobs.

Further; the demographics in my country show that the majority will soon be immigrants and there are many of these who do not have the respect that they should have for women and who come from areas where women have little to no rights. Hence my inclusion of that story of a man killing his wife and three daughters.

Chauvinism and repression of women is not near as prevalent as it once was here but I fear that immigration will not help either of our countries, and felt that having a visible law like affirmative action in place, might help to change the attitudes of men coming here from less progressive states.

I have noted that Australia and some Scandinavian countries are issuing warnings and laws that tell immigrants what the counties standards of conduct are vis-à-vis women and telling these new citizens to basically stay away if they are not ready to leave their chauvinistic and oppressive attitudes in their old countries.

These two basic reasons are why I created the O P.

Knowing that 90% of those here are male, I did not expect a warm reception on this idea.

I don’t care.

It is the 10% of females here that I want to hear from to assess what the reality is from TPOV.

Regards
DL

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-Imp