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Time ?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:59 pm
by MJA
Who was the first person to tell the time?
'The time is...'
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Re: Time ?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:16 am
by ..nameless..
The simplest creatures know when it is 'time' to eat!
Or 'time' to scratch the itch!
Or when it is 'time' to sleep!
What 'time' is it?
Now!
Re: Time ?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:58 pm
by MJA
So who was the first?
Re: Time ?
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:03 am
by attofishpi
MJA wrote:So who was the first?
It depends what scale you are talking about. Our ancestors had an accurate way of measuring what time of year it was. The daily time scale wouldn't have been calculated too far after that i would have thought. As to the exact name of that brainiac...i'll say it was probably a dog named Brian.
Re: Time ?
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:11 pm
by ..nameless..
MJA wrote:So who was the first?
There is no answer in a linear perspective, unless one knows what you mean by "tell time"?
The question is meaningless in it's vagueness..
There is no 'first' in a synchronous holistic perspective.
Is this some sort of game?
Are there rules?
Re: Time ?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:19 pm
by The Voice of Time
Okay, what is time measurement?
Time measurement is the measurement of "in front of"'s and "in back of"'s, that is, placement according to several "front of" and "back of" values, then synchronized with a any kind of "default" value.
Like, the rain, a default value, and number of back-scratchings.
"1 period of rain = 200 back-scratchings"
So, let's count the number of back-scratchings!
1... 2... 3... 159... 179... 199... 200, okay, Time For rain!!!!!
Time signifies a causal relationship between any numbers of something, or a procedure of unrelated values but with "front of" and "back of" values. Like: "rain will fall", "after the first coconut drops, the lion travels and the herd of antelopes return", that is, the "Front-of" values applied to "antelopes return", "lion travels", and "first coconut falls", and the "Back-of" values of none, or null, as you call any nonsense values (in computer science).
In other words, the first to tell the time, if speaking metaphorically and not literally, would depend if the subject of matter had to be a human or something with any form of speech. A simple echo beneath the ocean could tell the time for food, however, TWO echoes could tell it's time for mating, THREE echoes... and so forth. The counting of precedence could be related to "Front-of" values such as "is hungry", making "is hungry -> (lead to) eat/have food/hunt/etc." That is basic time measurement.
We humans still can't count the time more reliably than the survival of our instruments and their synchronic coherence with notable default-values. In the future others may look back on us and say "how silly they were to count the spin of their planet, their moon and their ecliptic rotation around the sun", because they have found out that a lot of time "got missed" in-between stuff they might call "inaccurate".
For all we know, in 50 years people may say that without us noticing the sun would do some crazy stuff rendering our calender and all stuff imprecise or past its usefulness. I would reckon much philosophy to be onto that. Thoughts about black holes and multiverses usually take into account that time may be something more than it is now.
Re: Time ?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:46 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
The Voice of Time wrote:Okay, what is time measurement?
Time measurement is the measurement of "in front of"'s and "in back of"'s, that is, placement according to several "front of" and "back of" values, then synchronized with a any kind of "default" value.
Like, the rain, a default value, and number of back-scratchings.
"1 period of rain = 200 back-scratchings"
So, let's count the number of back-scratchings!
1... 2... 3... 159... 179... 199... 200, okay, Time For rain!!!!!
Time signifies a causal relationship between any numbers of something, or a procedure of unrelated values but with "front of" and "back of" values. Like: "rain will fall", "after the first coconut drops, the lion travels and the herd of antelopes return", that is, the "Front-of" values applied to "antelopes return", "lion travels", and "first coconut falls", and the "Back-of" values of none, or null, as you call any nonsense values (in computer science).
In other words, the first to tell the time, if speaking metaphorically and not literally, would depend if the subject of matter had to be a human or something with any form of speech. A simple echo beneath the ocean could tell the time for food, however, TWO echoes could tell it's time for mating, THREE echoes... and so forth. The counting of precedence could be related to "Front-of" values such as "is hungry", making "is hungry -> (lead to) eat/have food/hunt/etc." That is basic time measurement.
We humans still can't count the time more reliably than the survival of our instruments and their synchronic coherence with notable default-values. In the future others may look back on us and say "how silly they were to count the spin of their planet, their moon and their ecliptic rotation around the sun", because they have found out that a lot of time "got missed" in-between stuff they might call "inaccurate".
For all we know, in 50 years people may say that without us noticing the sun would do some crazy stuff rendering our calender and all stuff imprecise or past its usefulness.
Yes, time is a relative means of arbitrary measurement so as to record a sequence of events due to motion, that only makes sense if those speaking of it, agree upon the same arbitrary unit of measurement. Therefore it is not real, such that who cares whom was the first, "he was such a stupid get! no, no, noooooooo!
I'm sooo tired..."
Re: Time ?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:11 pm
by The Voice of Time
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
I'm sooo tired..."[/color]
IF Time == Sleepiness (sequential position number 559 in "WHAT-TO-DO-TODAY" enumeration) THEN PRINT: "Time for Sleep
"
Re: Time ?
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:20 am
by MJA
..nameless.. wrote:MJA wrote:So who was the first?
There is no answer in a linear perspective, unless one knows what you mean by "tell time"?
The question is meaningless in it's vagueness..
There is no 'first' in a synchronous holistic perspective.
Is this some sort of game?
Are there rules?
I guess you don't know.
Lets try again.
Who was the first to say: the time is ____ ?
Who invented time?
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Re: Time ?
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:53 am
by SpheresOfBalance
MJA wrote:..nameless.. wrote:MJA wrote:So who was the first?
There is no answer in a linear perspective, unless one knows what you mean by "tell time"?
The question is meaningless in it's vagueness..
There is no 'first' in a synchronous holistic perspective.
Is this some sort of game?
Are there rules?
I guess you don't know.
Lets try again.
Who was the first to say: the time is ____ ?
Who invented time?
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Why,... Grandfather Time, of course!
Of course I don't really blame him for believing in such imaginary things, he was quite old you see.
Re: Time ?
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:44 am
by chaz wyman
MJA wrote:Who was the first person to tell the time?
'The time is...'
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The ancient Babylonians were the first to unitise time in that way.
They thought that the years was divided up into 360 days. That is why we still have 360 degrees make a circle.
Other units are all divisible be sexigesimal. 12; 30 day months ; each day 12 hours; each night also 12; 12 signs of the zodiac.