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In most cases 'NO', correct? Neither are women. It's an attack against one's will. Yet it seems that in male culture there's often an attitude that it's no big deal for women to be raped, they probably did something to encourage it, and they should just 'get over it' and not make a big deal about it.

So..... WHAT IF we were living on a planet that had big hairy apes that preyed on men? A man would have to be careful what he did and where he went, as these big hairy apes were lurking everywhere, looking to take advantage, and they were horny beasts that saw the men as vulnerable. These beasts would even prey on these human males as children. This was the world males were born into... and it's what they had to contend with their whole lives.

How would our justice system and societal accountability change if males were commonly rape victims?

there would be an increase in pistol sales

-Imp

Impenitent wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 4:46 am there would be an increase in pistol sales

-Imp

Well, even if you manage to overpower the big hairy ape you thought you could trust, or one jumps on you unexpectedly, and maybe you shoot him, you still have to prove your case in the legal system... which may be full of some of those big hairy apes who will stick up for him.

Maybe your drink gets spiked... or you get snatched as a child... and you end up in some sort of human trafficking or sex trade.

This is the kind of creepy crap that women and children are subjected to. Why are we preyed upon by our own species? Why are so many men self-serving predators or enablers, acting as if they are entitled? They'll fight in wars abroad for all kinds of reasons, but where are the armies of men fighting against the absolute horror of women and children being abused by men for generations?

Make the question posthumous and ask John McCain* ...
... about his ape rape joke.
John McCain was a swamp fox.
John McCain hated Trump.
McCain was Big Media’s favourite RINO.
Implications.


* Time eventually 86’ed McCain.

Walker wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 9:44 am Make the question posthumous and ask John McCain* ...

This has nothing to do with McCain... and your dumb comments are not interesting or applicable.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 3:02 am In most cases 'NO', correct? Neither are women. It's an attack against one's will. Yet it seems that in male culture there's often an attitude that it's no big deal for women to be raped, they probably did something to encourage it, and they should just 'get over it' and not make a big deal about it.

So..... WHAT IF we were living on a planet that had big hairy apes that preyed on men? A man would have to be careful what he did and where he went, as these big hairy apes were lurking everywhere, looking to take advantage, and they were horny beasts that saw the men as vulnerable. These beasts would even prey on these human males as children. This was the world males were born into... and it's what they had to contend with their whole lives.

How would our justice system and societal accountability change if males were commonly rape victims?

Some people might be OK with non-consensual sex under certain limited, specific conditions, I don't know. But no man is okay with being raped. If a supermodel showed up on my doorstep with a whip and handcuffs and said she wanted to "dominate" me for a little while, I might consent to it, but if she just showed up and started forcibly making me do things without any kind of clarification of what she was doing or why, then I would probably not enjoy it or else not obey. And if I am the stronger of the two of us, then I can defend myself from her if I don't want to have anything to do with her.

If an unattractive girl showed up on my doorstep with a whip and handcuffs, I would categorically say "no".

But in the end, it always comes down to consent.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 5:23 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 9:44 am Make the question posthumous and ask John McCain* ...

This has nothing to do with McCain... and your dumb comments are not interesting or applicable.

Sure, you brought up the topic of ape rape.
McCain told an infamous joke about ape rape.
You two share the same interest.

Check out his joke, so that you can be the judge of his character.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 10:52 pm If an unattractive girl showed up on my doorstep with a whip and handcuffs, I would categorically say "no".

What if she was the cutest girl in town, recently arrived, and she wanted to cuff you? Would you say yes?

You should hear Gilbert Gottfried’s routine about Catherine Zeta-Jones, which turned out to be ironic. Admittedly, when I heard it on the radio I was hiking and warding off the cold weather, if you get my drift, but I don't think that affected my reaction to his comedic timing.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 10:52 pm a man is okay with being raped. If a supermodel showed up on my doorstep...

I'm not talking about supermodels raping people... I'm talking about big hairy apes raping men. Would men care more about the horrors of rape if that was happening to them?

Personally, I think anyone who rapes should be castrated and then thrown into a prison of their horny peers. How might that kind of established punishment work to discourage rapes?

It's not that hard if people in charge would hold men accountable (instead of protecting them) and insist on an honorable standard. Patriarchal society is toxic and stupid. It sacrifices the divine nature of women and children... treating them as objects for men to jerk themselves off. Why aren't men showing outrage about this?

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2026 12:37 am McCain told an infamous joke about ape rape.

I don't care. The associations you make are stupid and inapplicable. I guess that's your technique for avoiding real issues. Like the way you keep talking about Biden in the past instead of acknowledging the idiocy and destructiveness of the current president right in front of you. Why are you a supporter of ANYONE of any political party who is corrupt? Don't you have your own mind to focus on what each person is doing instead of raging against (or catering to) their superficial political label that only matters to shallow cult followers?

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2026 1:40 am

What if everyone reading the thread has found the McCain ape rape joke and formed an opinion, except you?

That would put you on the them side of us.
It would make you willfully ignorant, via ignoring.

McCain was the biggest RINO in the herd in his day, and that has real-life implications.

Instead of supporter, you should use the term analyst, and do it without sneering.
That way you don't assume so much, and make an ass out of yourself.

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2026 1:48 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2026 1:40 am

What if everyone reading the thread has found the McCain ape rape joke and formed an opinion, except you?

This thread has nothing to do with McCain or his jokes.

I don't like most politicians, regardless of party affiliation, and I don't understand your unbalanced and dishonest fixation with them. Why can't you address the current political landscape that is happening right now... and how fucked up it is? What are you protecting (or afraid of) by avoiding that and harping on the past and other people? Are you afraid of being seen as having been ignorant and wrong? We already know that. It happens to us all. Let's move forward.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2026 1:20 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 10:52 pm a man is okay with being raped. If a supermodel showed up on my doorstep...

I'm not talking about supermodels raping people... I'm talking about big hairy apes raping men. Would men care more about the horrors of rape if that was happening to them?

Personally, I think anyone who rapes should be castrated and then thrown into a prison of their horny peers. How might that kind of established punishment work to discourage rapes?

It's not that hard if people in charge would hold men accountable (instead of protecting them) and insist on an honorable standard. Patriarchal society is toxic and stupid. It sacrifices the divine nature of women and children... treating them as objects for men to jerk themselves off. Why aren't men showing outrage about this?

Sorry, a typo. It should read, "no man is OK being raped".

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2026 2:11 am

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You need to apprehend the big picture.
Use the good of AI to inform you, of what you don't understand.
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Plus, the machine beats an ignored effort anyday.

*

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Men carry guns to shoot apes that rape.
That signals their level of ... Okay.

So do women.