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Well thanks for providing a platform for those of us who are forced to be here. The alternatives for online philosophy venues seems to be shrinking instead of expanding.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 9:16 am Well thanks for providing a platform for those of us who are forced to be here. The alternatives for online philosophy venues seems to be shrinking instead of expanding.

When this site was down I took one look at ILP and saw it was dominated by you and Vege, and decided I couldn't be bothered. Now you're here because you wrote something bad about Jews over there and they banned you, right?

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:16 pmWhen this site was down I took one look at ILP and saw it was dominated by you and Vege, and decided I couldn't be bothered. Now you're here because you wrote something bad about Jews over there and they banned you, right?

Wrong as per usual, D pants. Want to try again? Do you believe I'm pro-Ayatollah and pro-Islam too??? Or are you against Israel/US action in Iran right now? Don't answer, these questions are always rhetorical with you, because you're an easy "thinker" to figure out.

You will never be banned or censored, because you will always hold expected, normie, politically-correct takes. Your brain is unable of thinking outside the box. Your brain is antithetical to Philosophy or the pursuit of Philosophy.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2026 10:28 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:16 pmWhen this site was down I took one look at ILP and saw it was dominated by you and Vege, and decided I couldn't be bothered. Now you're here because you wrote something bad about Jews over there and they banned you, right?

Wrong as per usual, D pants. Want to try again? Do you believe I'm pro-Ayatollah and pro-Islam too??? Or are you against Israel/US action in Iran right now? Don't answer, these questions are always rhetorical with you, because you're an easy "thinker" to figure out.

You will never be banned or censored, because you will always hold expected, normie, politically-correct takes. Your brain is unable of thinking outside the box. Your brain is antithetical to Philosophy or the pursuit of Philosophy.

Whatever. You already told us you got banned for promoting notorious White Supremacist Neo-Nazi Nick J Fuentes...

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 11:19 am Nicholas J Fuentes is a Rightwing political news commentator in the US, based out of Chicago.

I've already been banned on one forum for speaking positively about him.

So presumably I got the correct site, and the correct reason. So it seems I am not wrong. You are just here to your nazi propaganda thing in a new place while you serve out your ban in the other.

Still wrong, I was not banned from that forum for posting about Nick Fuentes' Trump predictions. I'm referring to a third philosophy forum, where Satyr resides.

You've been wrong many times in 2 short days. I'll let you rest and recollect yourself. You must feel very embarrassed by now, presuming you can feel shame.

Wait whut? You found somewhere to get banned for insufficient nazification? Whooa dude, that's madness.

What are you talking about now, [DELETED]?

Nick Fuentes is a Roman Catholic who believes in multi-racialism. You can call him a Nationalist if you need your Ad Hom smears. But he's not a Socialist. He's also friends with lots of black people, something your mind cannot comprehend. My temporary banishment from the forum I'm referring to, was because their Irish Protestant Administrator cannot tolerate Catholics or Catholicism, based on the Irish historic war between the Irish Protestants and Irish Catholics. It's a blood-feud among your British Isles.

Although, at this point, I doubt you're even Native British. Where are your great grandparents from? There's no way you're an Anglo.

Oh dear. I see that being a foreigner, you don't understand the word British.

It's ok - its complicated.

The "Native British" are the Welsh and the Cornish - though a very large part of UK population probably has some pre-Roman ancestry.

What you call "Anglos" (presumably Anglo-Saxons?) are not in that sense "Native British" as they are descended from immigrants who arrived here in the 5th-7th centuries AD. I won't lie to you - those first few centuries were a bit rough. But the English seem to have settled in quite well since then, and made a positive contribution.

In fact, since about the time of Henry VIII, (and even more so from the time of the Stuarts onwards) the word British has been used to describe people of all ancestries who live in Britain - including even the English, and including also the descendents of other immigrant waves who have arrived since.

Go back a few centuries and we're all descended from pretty much everyone anyway (do the maths!) so talking about ancestry in British context isn't very useful.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 10:56 am My temporary banishment from the forum I'm referring to, was because their Irish Protestant Administrator cannot tolerate Catholics or Catholicism

That's so utterly stupid that I can only assume you must be telling the truth. Where is this forum? I will give them a very strong telling off for you. You may not know this about me, but sometimes I can be quite severe and even a little bit sarcastic.

I prefer you to stay ignorant.

OK guys, I deleted the rest of this conversation from this point onwards. Since the forum rebooted, discussion on it in general seems more philosophical, more constructive and generally politer. I'm keen to keep it that way if possible, without all the stupid name-throwing and ad hominems we used to see in the recent past. Wizard, you should be less touchy. You views are fairly "out there" sometimes, and are bound to provoke reactions, which I suspect is partly why they appeal to you. Flash, I'd be grateful if you could dial it way back with the "Nazi" namecalling. Thanks.

Btw I'm going to move this thread to the "General Discussions" area, as it isn't really About This Forum, so to speak.

Oops, I dropped the thread into the Lounge instead. But maybe that's better anyway.

RickLewis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 11:30 am Oh dear. I see that being a foreigner, you don't understand the word British.

It's ok - its complicated.

The "Native British" are the Welsh and the Cornish - though a very large part of UK population probably has some pre-Roman ancestry.

What you call "Anglos" (presumably Anglo-Saxons?) are not in that sense "Native British" as they are descended from immigrants who arrived here in the 5th-7th centuries AD. I won't lie to you - those first few centuries were a bit rough. But the English seem to have settled in quite well since then, and made a positive contribution.

In fact, since about the time of Henry VIII, (and even more so from the time of the Stuarts onwards) the word British has been used to describe people of all ancestries who live in Britain - including even the English, and including also the descendents of other immigrant waves who have arrived since.

Go back a few centuries and we're all descended from pretty much everyone anyway (do the maths!) so talking about ancestry in British context isn't very useful.

Oh come on. How 'native' can anyone be without going back to one tiny part of sub Saharan Africa? Human habitation goes back hundreds of thousands of years in England. I'm pretty sure that's enough time to forge a distinct identity and character. Doesn't take very long to destroy it though.

accelafine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2026 10:37 pm Human habitation goes back hundreds of thousands of years in England. I'm pretty sure that's enough time to forge a distinct identity and character. Doesn't take very long to destroy it though.

The people who were there 100,000 years ago were Neanderthals, so whatever identity they forged is long gone. They live on in scattered low % genes from interbreeding with the next group, in England and elsewhere. European Early Modern Humans came in about 40,000 years ago. They were forced out of England by an Ice Age 25,000 years ago. Then the Mesolithic people settled in England after the Ice Age 10,000 years ago. These were then nearly entirely replaced by the Beaker People. So, the Stonehenge builders were 90% replaced in the gene pool, and individuals who were still fully from those people would have been rare and slowly disappearing then.

This unequal combination, there in England and elsewhere, became the Celts. The Romans came in the early AD and stayed for a few hundred years, changing the culture and religion. Then the Anglo Saxons came, a significantly different culture from the Romanized Celts. In fact, the Welsh - with more of the genes and culture of the Britons before the Anglo Saxons came - don't consider themselves English, often.

You've also got Vikings coming in and out, adding customs, genes and vocabulary -- 8th-11th centuries. Then we've got a huge cultural shift in 1066 when the Normans came. They only affected about 5% of the gene pool, but radically changed the language, making it a mix of Latin and Germanic Languages - the Celtic languages...more or less gone. The Normans changed government, architecture, law and introduced feudalism.

11th to 17th Century, large influx due to religious persecution elsewhere: Jews and Huguenots. They radically affected industry and finance.

The next big shift was Irish immigration, over a million came due to the famine - which was radically worsened (the famine) by English policies. This shift reintroduced Catholicism to England and affected the culture in many other ways.

More Jewish influx from the late 1800s to 1914.

1948: the government decides it needs help from the colonies for labor and gives those living in the colonies the right to come to England. This wasn't quite an intentional invitation to come and stay, despite some noble sounding ways of framing new laws, but then there was another large influx, changing the culture again.

So, the idea that humans have been there for 100s of thousands of years so they have had time to forge an identity is confused. Those there back then are truly gone. And other cultures have been coming in for a long time and significantly changing the culture, to the point where those genetically and culturally connected to earlier waves of immigrants don't even call themselves English, who they see as latecomers and usurpers.