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No one knows infinity because no one is Infinity.

No one can know because no one is the “Knowing” that cannot be known.

All the things that will never exist already don’t exist. There’s no room in nonexistence for the things that do exist. Existence exists because it’s not nonexistence. The only place existence can be is in existence. That’s the ultimate polarity of creation.

You are infinity. You are no one. No one is One.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am No one knows infinity because no one is Infinity.

LOL So, to 'this one' anyway, God is not infinity, nor infinite.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am No one can know because no one is the “Knowing” that cannot be known.

Again, 'this one' believes that God is not 'Knowing'.

Although it is already known that 'I' am God, the 'Knowing'.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am All the things that will never exist already don’t exist.

When 'you', personally, say, and talk about, 'already', did 'you' mean in the 'current now' when 'you' said and wrote 'that', or did 'you' mean in the eternal 'NOW'?

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am There’s no room in nonexistence for the things that do exist. Existence exists because it’s not nonexistence. The only place existence can be is in existence. That’s the ultimate polarity of creation.

You are infinity. You are no one. No one is One.

'you', a 'self', is the 'person', which is the invisible 'thoughts', and 'emotions', within a visible human body.

There are as many of 'you' as there are living, breathing, blood pumping, and 'thinking' human bodies. 'you' are 'one' of all of 'them'.

Only 'I' am the one and only One, which is the True, or Real, 'Self'. Which is also invisible, by the way.

Whereas, 'you' are the invisible 'thoughts', and 'emotions', which are also known as 'souls', 'I' am the invisible 'Knowing', which is also known as 'Spirit'.

That is, also known as the 'Spirit, Allah, God, Enlightenment', or S.A.G.E. (Among other names).

And, as always, here, for any one who is curios, inquisitive, and/or interested enough to also come to uncover the absolute and irrefutable Truths for this irrefutable Fact, then allow 'us' to just have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am No one knows infinity because no one is Infinity.

No one can know because no one is the “Knowing” that cannot be known.

All the things that will never exist already don’t exist. There’s no room in nonexistence for the things that do exist. Existence exists because it’s not nonexistence. The only place existence can be is in existence. That’s the ultimate polarity of creation.

You are infinity. You are no one. No one is One.

attentive parents are often knowing... or at least they say "no" frequently

-Imp

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am No one knows infinity because no one is Infinity.

No one can know because no one is the “Knowing” that cannot be known.

All the things that will never exist already don’t exist. There’s no room in nonexistence for the things that do exist. Existence exists because it’s not nonexistence. The only place existence can be is in existence. That’s the ultimate polarity of creation.

You are infinity. You are no one. No one is One.

The above thinking is messy.

To know something it must exists as real.
What is real is always conditioned upon a collective human-based framework and system [FS} of which the scientific FS is the gold standard [as justified].
Where existence is claimed to be real, it must be verified within the scientific FS, e.g. a real apple can be confirmed within the science-biological FS.
Morality is real, say 80/100 where the moral FS has a 95% empirical input from the scientific FS.

Infinity is merely an inferred concept within linguistic or mathematics which can be useful as a guide.
As compared to the gold standard of reality i.e. the scientific FS, rated at 100/100 as the standard, then infinity is 1/100.
To reified infinity as really real is delusional.

Theism's FS and reality is 1/100 because it is 100% by default based on faith rather than empirical verification.

Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people.

“Therefore the perfect, absolute, and in itself, is one, infinite, which cannot be greater or better. And that which nothing can be greater or better than. This is one, everywhere, the only God, universal nature, of which nothing can be a perfect image or reflection, but the infinite.”


“The infinity of All ever bringing forth anew, and even as infinite space is around us, so is infinite potentiality, capacity, reception, malleability, matter.”


“All things are in the Universe, and the universe is in all things: we in it, and it in us; in this way everything concurs in a perfect unity.”


God is logic, consistency. Consistency is unity. Got is unity. God does not violate its own will. Existence is logic. God is existence.

Immobile.

You’re too close to see it.

You don’t see it because you are it.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 4:12 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am No one knows infinity because no one is Infinity.

No one can know because no one is the “Knowing” that cannot be known.

All the things that will never exist already don’t exist. There’s no room in nonexistence for the things that do exist. Existence exists because it’s not nonexistence. The only place existence can be is in existence. That’s the ultimate polarity of creation.

You are infinity. You are no one. No one is One.

The above thinking is messy.

To know something it must exists as real.
What is real is always conditioned upon a collective human-based framework and system [FS} of which the scientific FS is the gold standard [as justified].
Where existence is claimed to be real, it must be verified within the scientific FS, e.g. a real apple can be confirmed within the science-biological FS.
Morality is real, say 80/100 where the moral FS has a 95% empirical input from the scientific FS.

Infinity is merely an inferred concept within linguistic or mathematics which can be useful as a guide.
As compared to the gold standard of reality i.e. the scientific FS, rated at 100/100 as the standard, then infinity is 1/100.
To reified infinity as really real is delusional.

Theism's FS and reality is 1/100 because it is 100% by default based on faith rather than empirical verification.

As long as you identify with being human you must misunderstand reality. Because reality is not human.
You misunderstand reality because you think you are finite. As your understanding approaches infinity, your identity approaches God. Finally Omniscient, your identity and God are realised to be identical.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:46 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 4:12 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am No one knows infinity because no one is Infinity.

No one can know because no one is the “Knowing” that cannot be known.

All the things that will never exist already don’t exist. There’s no room in nonexistence for the things that do exist. Existence exists because it’s not nonexistence. The only place existence can be is in existence. That’s the ultimate polarity of creation.

You are infinity. You are no one. No one is One.

The above thinking is messy.

To know something it must exists as real.
What is real is always conditioned upon a collective human-based framework and system [FS} of which the scientific FS is the gold standard [as justified].
Where existence is claimed to be real, it must be verified within the scientific FS, e.g. a real apple can be confirmed within the science-biological FS.
Morality is real, say 80/100 where the moral FS has a 95% empirical input from the scientific FS.

Infinity is merely an inferred concept within linguistic or mathematics which can be useful as a guide.
As compared to the gold standard of reality i.e. the scientific FS, rated at 100/100 as the standard, then infinity is 1/100.
To reified infinity as really real is delusional.

Theism's FS and reality is 1/100 because it is 100% by default based on faith rather than empirical verification.

As long as you identify with being human you must misunderstand reality. Because reality is not human.
You misunderstand reality because you think you are finite. As your understanding approaches infinity, your identity approaches God. Finally Omniscient, your identity and God are realised to be identical.

For 2500 years, philosophers* had not been above to nail what is fundamental to reality.
* including Plato, Aristotle, Leibniz, and the like.

This is why Kant introduced his Copernican Revolution that it make more sense for objects to be grounded on the human conditions rather reality is grounded on things-in-themselves absolutely independent of the human conditions.

Do you have any justification reality exists absolutely independent of the human conditions?
Try??
There is no way you can do it other than rely on speculations using the your human conditions within the collective human conditions.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 4:12 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am No one knows infinity because no one is Infinity.

No one can know because no one is the “Knowing” that cannot be known.

All the things that will never exist already don’t exist. There’s no room in nonexistence for the things that do exist. Existence exists because it’s not nonexistence. The only place existence can be is in existence. That’s the ultimate polarity of creation.

You are infinity. You are no one. No one is One.

The above thinking is messy.

To know something it must exists as real.
What is real is always conditioned upon a collective human-based framework and system [FS} of which the scientific FS is the gold standard [as justified].
Where existence is claimed to be real, it must be verified within the scientific FS, e.g. a real apple can be confirmed within the science-biological FS.
Morality is real, say 80/100 where the moral FS has a 95% empirical input from the scientific FS.

Infinity is merely an inferred concept within linguistic or mathematics which can be useful as a guide.
As compared to the gold standard of reality i.e. the scientific FS, rated at 100/100 as the standard, then infinity is 1/100.
To reified infinity as really real is delusional.

Theism's FS and reality is 1/100 because it is 100% by default based on faith rather than empirical verification.

But, 'infinity' and 'theism' has already been 'empirically verified' and being 100% Real, and True, and Accurate, and Correct, also.

Now, just because some human beings like "veritas aequitas" have not been shown the 'empirical verification', obviously, never ever means that 'it' does not exist.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:28 am Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people.

Nor even by one nor some up to but including all.

Once what 'it' is, which all agree with, and accept, becomes known, then 'it' is the actual and irrefutable Truth.

As I have been saying and/or pointing out throughout this forum.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:28 am “Therefore the perfect, absolute, and in itself, is one, infinite, which cannot be greater or better. And that which nothing can be greater or better than.

Again, of which there are two things, only, which there is no thing that is greater, more powerful, nor better than.

And, those two things are, the Universe, Itself, and, the Mind, Itself.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:28 am This is one, everywhere, the only God, universal nature, of which nothing can be a perfect image or reflection, but the infinite.”


“The infinity of All ever bringing forth anew, and even as infinite space is around us, so is infinite potentiality, capacity, reception, malleability, matter.”


“All things are in the Universe, and the universe is in all things: we in it, and it in us; in this way everything concurs in a perfect unity.”

All is, literally, 'Me', in visible and invisible form, which is just who the 'I' am, in the question, 'Who am 'I'?' And, it could be said and argued, all is 'mine' as all is 'MinE', (or in ME). 'I' am the Spirit (Mind) within all, and, all is within 'ME', (Universe).

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:28 am God is logic, consistency. Consistency is unity. Got is unity. God does not violate its own will. Existence is logic. God is existence.

Immobile.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:59 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:46 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 4:12 am
The above thinking is messy.

To know something it must exists as real.
What is real is always conditioned upon a collective human-based framework and system [FS} of which the scientific FS is the gold standard [as justified].
Where existence is claimed to be real, it must be verified within the scientific FS, e.g. a real apple can be confirmed within the science-biological FS.
Morality is real, say 80/100 where the moral FS has a 95% empirical input from the scientific FS.

Infinity is merely an inferred concept within linguistic or mathematics which can be useful as a guide.
As compared to the gold standard of reality i.e. the scientific FS, rated at 100/100 as the standard, then infinity is 1/100.
To reified infinity as really real is delusional.

Theism's FS and reality is 1/100 because it is 100% by default based on faith rather than empirical verification.

As long as you identify with being human you must misunderstand reality. Because reality is not human.
You misunderstand reality because you think you are finite. As your understanding approaches infinity, your identity approaches God. Finally Omniscient, your identity and God are realised to be identical.

For 2500 years, philosophers* had not been above to nail what is fundamental to reality.
* including Plato, Aristotle, Leibniz, and the like.

This is why Kant introduced his Copernican Revolution that it make more sense for objects to be grounded on the human conditions rather reality is grounded on things-in-themselves absolutely independent of the human conditions.

Do you have any justification reality exists absolutely independent of the human conditions?
Try??
There is no way you can do it other than rely on speculations using the your human conditions within the collective human conditions.

Do you have any justification reality exists absolutely as relative finite human conditions?

Relatively is baked into the very fabric of reality. Relative beliefs of wrong and right being absolute are absurd.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:37 am You’re too close to see it.

You don’t see it because you are it.

Once more, the word, 'you', means or refers to 'an other'.

'I' am 'It'. Which is why 'you' human beings have taken so, so long to 'catch up', 'see', 'notice', 'recognize', and 'know' thy 'Self', the 'I', in 'the question', 'Who am 'I'?'

'I' am 'It', the Universe, and, Mind, Its-Self.

While 'you' are 'you', human beings, and people.

Now, 'I' can call 'you' a 'you', because 'you', individually, are 'an other', and, all of 'you', collectively, are 'others'. Which is what the word, 'you', means and/or is referring to, exactly. 'you' are, literally, the illusory separated, or the conceptually different 'other/s'.

Whereas, 'I' am the one and only One, always unified and united One. While, 'I' can can 'you', a you, 'you' can not call 'Me' a you, because there is, literally, no other than 'I' the one and only Universe, and, Mind.

And, just like 'you' human beings are made up of a visible human body, and, an invisible person, within, so to am 'I' made up of the visible universal body, and, the invisible Mind, within.

As always if absolutely any one would like to see and obtain the actual other irrefutable Truths, here, which all back up and support the claim, here, then allow 'us' to just have a discussion.

See, 'I', unlike these posters, here, can actually back up and support 'all of my claims' with irrefutable Facts, and proofs.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:46 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 4:12 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:45 am No one knows infinity because no one is Infinity.

No one can know because no one is the “Knowing” that cannot be known.

All the things that will never exist already don’t exist. There’s no room in nonexistence for the things that do exist. Existence exists because it’s not nonexistence. The only place existence can be is in existence. That’s the ultimate polarity of creation.

You are infinity. You are no one. No one is One.

The above thinking is messy.

To know something it must exists as real.
What is real is always conditioned upon a collective human-based framework and system [FS} of which the scientific FS is the gold standard [as justified].
Where existence is claimed to be real, it must be verified within the scientific FS, e.g. a real apple can be confirmed within the science-biological FS.
Morality is real, say 80/100 where the moral FS has a 95% empirical input from the scientific FS.

Infinity is merely an inferred concept within linguistic or mathematics which can be useful as a guide.
As compared to the gold standard of reality i.e. the scientific FS, rated at 100/100 as the standard, then infinity is 1/100.
To reified infinity as really real is delusional.

Theism's FS and reality is 1/100 because it is 100% by default based on faith rather than empirical verification.

As long as you identify with being human you must misunderstand reality. Because reality is not human.
You misunderstand reality because you think you are finite. As your understanding approaches infinity, your identity approaches God. Finally Omniscient, your identity and God are realised to be identical.

Again, 'this one' has had the Right knowledge, and conclusion, within it, from the outset, here.

And, as can be clearly seen, and observed, it is continually getting closer and closer to approaching God, Itself, as 'it' keeps obtaining, and gaining, the actual Right, and True, words, in Life.

When realized who and what 'you', human beings, are, exactly, then approaching God speeds up, exponentially, and then realizing, 'Who, and what, 'I' am, exactly, then the identity of 'I' can be seen, understood, and known as being identical with God, thy 'Self'.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:59 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:46 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 4:12 am
The above thinking is messy.

To know something it must exists as real.
What is real is always conditioned upon a collective human-based framework and system [FS} of which the scientific FS is the gold standard [as justified].
Where existence is claimed to be real, it must be verified within the scientific FS, e.g. a real apple can be confirmed within the science-biological FS.
Morality is real, say 80/100 where the moral FS has a 95% empirical input from the scientific FS.

Infinity is merely an inferred concept within linguistic or mathematics which can be useful as a guide.
As compared to the gold standard of reality i.e. the scientific FS, rated at 100/100 as the standard, then infinity is 1/100.
To reified infinity as really real is delusional.

Theism's FS and reality is 1/100 because it is 100% by default based on faith rather than empirical verification.

As long as you identify with being human you must misunderstand reality. Because reality is not human.
You misunderstand reality because you think you are finite. As your understanding approaches infinity, your identity approaches God. Finally Omniscient, your identity and God are realised to be identical.

For 2500 years, philosophers* had not been above to nail what is fundamental to reality.
* including Plato, Aristotle, Leibniz, and the like.

This is why Kant introduced his Copernican Revolution that it make more sense for objects to be grounded on the human conditions rather reality is grounded on things-in-themselves absolutely independent of the human conditions.

Do you have any justification reality exists absolutely independent of the human conditions?
Try??

LOL Asking 'another' if they can 'think' of some thing without 'thinking' is, exactly, more or less what you are asking, here. And, then claiming, 'you can not think without thinking', as though you have presented some thing new or enlightening, is just Truly bizarre. Well to some of 'us', here, anyway.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:59 am There is no way you can do it other than rely on speculations using the your human conditions within the collective human conditions.

What?

If there is any 'actual point' that you are wanting and/or are trying to get to, here, then what is 'it', exactly?

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 8:20 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:59 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:46 am
As long as you identify with being human you must misunderstand reality. Because reality is not human.
You misunderstand reality because you think you are finite. As your understanding approaches infinity, your identity approaches God. Finally Omniscient, your identity and God are realised to be identical.

For 2500 years, philosophers* had not been above to nail what is fundamental to reality.
* including Plato, Aristotle, Leibniz, and the like.

This is why Kant introduced his Copernican Revolution that it make more sense for objects to be grounded on the human conditions rather reality is grounded on things-in-themselves absolutely independent of the human conditions.

Do you have any justification reality exists absolutely independent of the human conditions?
Try??
There is no way you can do it other than rely on speculations using the your human conditions within the collective human conditions.

Do you have any justification reality exists absolutely as relative finite human conditions?

Relatively is baked into the very fabric of reality. Relative beliefs of wrong and right being absolute are absurd.

I did not use 'absolutely' but that reality [all there is] is relative to finite human conditions.

If we take reality [all there is], i.e. the whole cosmology of the universe and human therein, their reality can only be justified empirically by the scientific framework and system, physics, chemistry and biology. To do philosophy, we need to ground on scientific world;

If you 'think' and speculate, there is more to the above, that is only a thought which has to come from humans individually or collectively.
Unless such thoughts can be verified to actual empirical reality, it remain a speculation, and if it is related to possible experience, it is an illusion.

• Philosophy, as I shall understand the word, is something intermediate between theology and science. Like theology, it consists of speculations on matters as to which definite knowledge has, so far, been unascertainable; but like science, it appeals to human reason rather than to authority, whether that of tradition or that of revelation. All definite knowledge – so I should contend – belongs to science; all dogma as to what surpasses definite knowledge belongs to theology. But between theology and science there is a No Man’s Land, exposed to attack from both sides; and this No Man’s Land is philosophy. Almost all the questions of most interest to speculative minds are such as science cannot answer, and the confident answers of theologians no longer seem so convincing as they did in former centuries. Bertrand Russell (p. xiii)

For any thought to be realistic or possibly realistic its umbilical cord must be connected to the empirical world, if not, it is going beyond to la la land. Despite being unrealistic, venturing into la la land has psychological advantages, like how a fictitious Santa Claus is useful to parents, children and business.

There are loads of psychological reasons why individual humans like to extend beyond the empirical world and that of possible experience. This is driven by the terrible existential crisis which is natural in the majority of humans.