Hit Man
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:50 am
Jason Friend and Lauren Friend discuss reprogramming your self.
https://philosophynow.org/issues/170/Hit_Man
https://philosophynow.org/issues/170/Hit_Man
"It's always our decision who we are" concerns a process not a thing. Our decision who we are is well within the existence precedes essence criterion.Philosophy Now wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:50 am Jason Friend and Lauren Friend discuss reprogramming your self.
https://philosophynow.org/issues/170/Hit_Man
Thanks for starting the discussion with this pertinent and thought-provoking quote.
True ,there are biological limits on who one is. In times gone by the ward sister may indicate which patient was to get the bed bath with "the duodenal ulcer in bed three". Now, a self is not a 'case' but is a person.amity_blu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:39 amThanks for starting the discussion with this pertinent and thought-provoking quote.
It comes from another of Linklater's philosophical films, Waking Life (2001). A series of philosophical discussions including characters playing themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waking_Life
Robert C Solomon, played his part, engaging with existentialism.
From the article:
'Solomon flips the script and praises them [existentialists] as optimists, asserting that “one thing that comes out from reading these guys is not a sense of anguish about life so much as a real kind of exuberance of feeling on top of it. It’s like your life is yours to create.” He concludes his summation by insisting that the biggest takeaway from Sartre is that “It’s always our decision who we are.” Hit Man transports such Sartrean sentiments straight into Gary’s closing speech as he endorses the view that it is possible to radically change yourself, and emphasizes how liberating it is to refashion yourself into whoever you want to become.'
The article questions 'the film’s view of the malleability of the self'. 'Can key personality markers really be changed in a few months? Is it possible for someone to just fake it until he makes it and becomes a completely different person?'
Now, it seems we have slipped from life to identity to personality to behavioural transformations.
How possible is to change, even if we want or need to? What obstacles are in our way?
We are introduced to the concept of the 'identity algorithm'. With links to previous articles. WandaVision in Issue 152 and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness in Issue 159.
According to the authors, this is a 'model that sees the self as a product of ‘code’ partially written by nature and partially by nurture, which dictates an individual’s reactions. One’s code is the cause of every thought, feeling, or action, and it creates patterns of predictable behaviors that we know as an individual’s personality.'
Well, I don't know what I think or feel about that. I tend to scepticism. I understand the influence of nature and nurture on human development but as to their part in a written 'code' that is the cause of all that makes up a personality or self...
A contrast is made between the authors' identity model and the idea of the self as a role that can be altered within a few months.
What is it about the self that can be changed? How do we know what the 'self' is ? Is it real, steady or do we have many 'selves' and roles. I suggest both can be true. We seem to have a continuing core knowledge and experience of ourselves but this develops and changes as we grow. Or not. It depends on a variety of factors over which we have no control but which can prove a challenge. Sometimes we need help to get through. We do not want to change our whole identity but aspects of problematic behaviour.
The authors discuss CBT:
'The process is slow and incremental, and while small changes in thinking can lead within a few months to tremendous relief from anxiety and other forms of destructive thinking, there is no evidence that CBT can lead to wholesale personality changes of the kind we see with Gary.'
CBT is not about making wholesale personality changes. It focuses on connections between thoughts, feelings and behaviour. Positive changes that can be made with mental health issues.
As for Gary's changes...
More later.
What varies by person is where attention naturally flows. If it naturally flows towards a specific attachment, then experiencing attachment to its fullest will dispel all illusions concerning that specific attachment, which leads to a fuller understanding.
From https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12289686/:
I did not know that CBT had a theory of existence. Or that it is existentialist. Or its aim to make someone 'free'.
Strange but I always think of male teenage angst when I think of existentialism. That is wrong, I know.
You wrote:-amity_blu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:18 amI did not know that CBT had a theory of existence. Or that it is existentialist. Or its aim to make someone 'free'.
Grateful if you could explain what you mean.
My understanding is that it is based on theories of behaviourism and stoicism.
The main aim is to help people understand any maladaptive behaviours by examining their thought processes.
The idea is to improve mental wellbeing.
The basic idea is that people are not disturbed by negative events but by their beliefs about these events. Look up Stoic philosopher Epictetus quotes, for starters.
This may well result in a kind of freedom, if it releases the individual from the chains of unhelpful beliefs. And negative automatic thoughts.
Sometimes, it can involve following 'rules', guidance or daily practice. Similar to religious rituals?
Perhaps, having a mantra as a reminder. Like:
https://thecasualreader.com/7-stoic-mantras/
I am open to existentialism as a way of thinking about the world and our place in it. However, there are different interpretations of its meaning and consequences.
We can all think of practical, perhaps spiritual, implications of holding certain ways of looking at life, can't we? Each appraised as being more or less beneficial to wellbeing. This 'judgement' can become part of our 'core' self. Our deepest values unchanging...until they are challenged...even then, it is not easy to change if it is part of our identity. Becoming someone else sounds scary. But not if the change is simply being more aware of alternative perspectives.
And a willingness to consider alternatives before acting, or not acting, on them. The choice is ours, no?
In other words one should decide for oneself who one wants to be, one should not accept others' definition of oneself. Passively accepting others' definition of oneself and consequential unhappiness is what CBT aims to put right.The basic idea is that people are not disturbed by negative events but by their beliefs about these events.
Yes. That is one aspect of mental health issues related to identity, concerning the effects of others' opinions on the person's psyche.Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:02 am You wrote:-
The basic idea is that people are not disturbed by negative events but by their beliefs about these events.
In other words one should decide for oneself who one wants to be, one should not accept others' definition of oneself. Passively accepting others' definition of oneself and consequential unhappiness is what CBT aims to put right.
CBT can't address every unhappiness or affective illness.amity_blu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:10 pmYes. That is one aspect of mental health issues related to identity, concerning the effects of others' opinions on the person's psyche.Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:02 am You wrote:-
The basic idea is that people are not disturbed by negative events but by their beliefs about these events.
In other words one should decide for oneself who one wants to be, one should not accept others' definition of oneself. Passively accepting others' definition of oneself and consequential unhappiness is what CBT aims to put right.
However, there are different kinds and degrees of 'unhappiness' - imbalance in wellbeing - with complex causes.
How can one not be disturbed by stressful life events, related to control or perceived lack of power?
A single therapy or philosophy can't 'put things right' in any world.
But it might alleviate mental distress to some degree.
If fearful, angry or full of hatred against oppressors, can we hire a Hit Man?
All it seems we can do, is to learn how to regulate thoughts and emotional states. As in Stoicism.
Not dwell in existential angst.
when you tell yourself (or anyone else) who you think you are, you do so in language you understand.amity_blu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:41 amStrange but I always think of male teenage angst when I think of existentialism. That is wrong, I know.
There is not just one existential question for one age or gender. Identity and Voice matters.
'can you be who you think you are, described and understood, in a language you don't speak?' - Imp
I don't understand the question. What do you mean by a 'language you don't speak'?