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Here is an exercise to discover one significant truth of the ideology of Islam which has never mentioned by any researcher before.
Download the following Quran text file for AI
https://tanzil.net/trans/en.pickthall

Use one a few AIs to avoid biasness.
Attached the Quran text file to the chat.

Input the following prompt.

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You are conducting a forensic content audit of the Quran, 6236 verses, treating it as a thematic microcosm of the full Quran (per traditional Islamic exegesis). Focus exclusively on the ideological structure: identify and classify pronouns and agentive entities to map the "Us vs. Them" dichotomy, which drives in-group cohesion and out-group positioning in doctrinal systems.

Use the attached Quran text file (Pickthall translation) for analysis. Perform the following steps sequentially, outputting results in a structured table for clarity. Base classifications on explicit textual references only—no external historical, cultural, or interpretive context. Treat the verse (ayah) as the unit of analysis; if a verse contains multiple elements, tag it holistically but note sub-elements.

Step 1: Identify all explicit pronouns (e.g., We, I, He, you, they) and agentive entities (named or described actors with agency, e.g., Allah, believers, disbelievers).
Step 2: Classify each as:
- "Us" items: Pronouns/entities aligned with the divine/in-group covenant (Allah/God; Messengers/Prophets including Muhammad; Believers/Muslims; Muslim angels/jinn; righteous ancestors).
- "Them" items: Pronouns/entities positioned as oppositional/out-group (Disbelievers/kafirs; polytheists/mushrikin; Satan/Shaytan/Iblis; Jews/Bani Isra'il in oppositional roles; Christians/Nasara in oppositional roles; hypocrites/munafiqun; non-Muslims/pharaohs/oppressors as archetypes).
Step 3: For each verse:
- Flag if it contains any "Us" item (Y/N).
- Flag if it contains any "Them" item (Y/N).
- Compute: Total verses with Us or Them (any overlap counts once); % over 6236 verses.
Step 4: Sub-analyze "Them"-focused verses for tone:
- Antagonistic/dehumanizing: Explicit condemnation, threats, curses, or moral exclusion (e.g., "cursed," "enemies of Allah," "apes/transformed," calls to fight/subdue).
- Neutral: Factual mention without judgment (e.g., descriptive narratives, invitations to belief without penalty).
- Compute: % of total verses (6236) for each tone in Them contexts.
Step 5: Specific counts:
- Verses with Allah pronouns (We/I/He/Him explicitly tied to God via context).
- Verses where Allah (as speaker) directly condemns "Them" items (e.g., divine warnings/judgments).
- Verses with fully neutral tone overall (no Us/Them; purely descriptive/exhortative without division).

Output Format:
- Summary Table: Rows for Steps 3-5; columns for Counts, % of 6236, Example Verses (3-5 per category).
- Brief Ideological Inference (1-2 paragraphs): Based solely on the counts, discuss how the dominance of Us/Them (e.g., if >80%) structurally embeds Tribalism (in-group favoritism/out-group antagonism) as a core doctrinal mechanic, per social identity theory (Tajfel & Turner, 1979). How this binary fosters perpetual ideological based harms.

Do not include methodological critiques, comparisons to other texts, or causal claims about real-world behavior—focus on textual evidence only.
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I am doing research for data of responses of various AIs to different users.

If it worth your effort because this is new information no researchers has ever done before.

I know, I am attacking the person in an Ad hominem Attack, but you cannot fix stupid. Maybe, you can fix ignorance, but not stupid. Research, lol, you are using AI to answer your questions that is a computer program. You are not researching, you don't even know the basics of Islam religion. I just feel sorry for you.

puto wrote: ↑Sat Nov 08, 2025 12:02 pm I know, I am attacking the person in an Ad hominem Attack, but you cannot fix stupid. Maybe, you can fix ignorance, but not stupid. Research, lol, you are using AI to answer your questions that is a computer program. You are not researching, you don't even know the basics of Islam religion. I just feel sorry for you.

You are making noises and that is insulting your intelligence and intellectual integrity.

The above is a simple exercise to carry out.
For knowledge sake, why don't you just do it and reflect on the results.

If you don't trust AI, you can do it manually which would be very tedious.
Also to test check you can also ask AI to analyze Chapter 2 comprising 286 verses and supposed a Mini-Quran with higher % but is near representative of the whole Quran.
You can ask AI to list the verses number /reference so that you can test check its results.

No, you are learning and that is the purpose.

If Islam were to ever gain the industrial and technological range of power, resources, and economic security as a first world Tokyo type western state with neon malls and 0.4 crime rates where everyone wore IGY spandex jackets, the Middle East would outlast all States in the world but the Chinese State. Why and how? The secret: Islam keeps its women under wraps. Literally. Freud is not mistaken to surmise that the foundation of discontent in the west is the competition and prohibition of sexy time. In order to forstall this phenomenon from destroying your society, you have to prevent it from being provoked in the first place. Keep those hos in the house or wrap them bitches up if they go to the market because they are just too goddamn sexy (praise Allah) to be wandering around where men are doing business. They throw the whole thing into chaotic disarray, and men become incapable of politics and philosophy.

So only because they are behind is it believed that their social structure is inferior to western liberal democracy. We can't possibly know what a state like america turned Muslim would look like. It might very well flourish. It would breed from generation to generation a conservative minded female stock that felt no loss in not having the freedom women in the west have. They would think life was great and would do woman stuff together, giggling and scampering across the dusty vendor market streets with baskets of produce, casting flirtatious eyes at strong arabic men of stature and position in grey suits with obnoxiously huge gold watches and dark sunglasses who get out of black Yukons.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:58 pm If Islam were to ever gain the industrial and technological range of power, resources, and economic security as a first world Tokyo type western state with neon malls and 0.4 crime rates where everyone wore IGY spandex jackets, the Middle East would outlast all States in the world but the Chinese State. Why and how? The secret: Islam keeps its women under wraps. Literally. Freud is not mistaken to surmise that the foundation of discontent in the west is the competition and prohibition of sexy time. In order to forstall this phenomenon from destroying your society, you have to prevent it from being provoked in the first place. Keep those hos in the house or wrap them bitches up if they go to the market because they are just too goddamn sexy (praise Allah) to be wandering around where men are doing business. They throw the whole thing into chaotic disarray, and men become incapable of politics and philosophy.

So only because they are behind is it believed that their social structure is inferior to western liberal democracy. We can't possibly know what a state like america turned Muslim would look like. It might very well flourish. It would breed from generation to generation a conservative minded female stock that felt no loss in not having the freedom women in the west have. They would think life was great and would do woman stuff together, giggling and scampering across the dusty vendor market streets with baskets of produce, casting flirtatious eyes at strong arabic men of stature and position in grey suits with obnoxiously huge gold watches and dark sunglasses who get out of black Yukons.

The counter to the above is, as a basis of self-discovery from performing the above exercise, you will discover, even if Islam were to gain full power, it will never last because it is inherently divisive with its doctrinal driven its significant 'us versus them' feature.

As Izutsu [famous Islamic Scholar] stated, the positive of Islam [iman] is leverage upon the negative of the other [Kufr].
As such it must seek 'the Other' to facilitate its strength and power, so even if Islam is dominant, it will seek divisiveness within itself, i.e. the will fight among themselves to death. Note the famous Sunni-Shia divide and sub-divisions among each main group.
Note the recent HAMAS beheading of other Muslims in Gaza.

Hamas publicly executes Gaza civilians amid Israel ceasefire,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VseI0-xgnYA

The common cry from the "genuine" [minority] Muslims is:
"we love death than you love life"
and under certain circumstances they would not hesitate to press the 'red button' because regardless of what happened on Earth, they are assured contractually, they are guaranteed eternal life in paradise.

In addition, all humans are programmed with an inherent moral function that is unfolding.
There is no way, Islam's evil can withstand its eventuality of morality-proper in time.