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You are saying that before yesterday you did not know that? If so, I say you are woefully ill-informed. Look up media consolidation. Clear Channel. It's been going on a long time. A very small number of companies decide what you see on tv and what you hear on the radio.
Like when Congress hauled Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg in to testify and told them to toughen up on content moderation, and they started throwing conservatives off their platforms? Like when Twitter banned the sitting president, Trump, in the middle of his reelection campaign?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 223851007/President Donald Trump said overwhelming negative coverage of him by television networks should be grounds for the Federal Communications Commission to revoke broadcast licenses.
Trump made the suggestion as he defended FCC chairman Brendan Carr for pressuring ABC to pull comedian Jimmy Kimmel's late-night show off the airwaves over comments Kimmel made regarding the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Kimmel was suspended indefinitely.
“They're 97% against ‒ they give me only bad publicity or press," Trump claimed in a Sept. 18 gaggle with reporters aboard Air Force One as he flew back to the United States from the United Kingdom. "I mean, they’re getting a license. I would think maybe their license should be taken away. It will be up to Brendan Carr.”
Kimmel was fired by a Woke company, not by Trump, and for being unfunny (his ratings were in the tank), and for having put his political ideology before his duty to entertain. He imagined himself to be some kind of social activist, whereas he was really just an unskilled entertainer.
What I've heard is that the chairman of the FCC (Federal Communications Commission), who was appointed by Trump, exerted some kind of pressure (perhaps suggestively at least) on the media company hosting Kimmel's show to take it off the air. Is that not true?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:15 pmKimmel was fired by a Woke company, not by Trump, and for being unfunny (his ratings were in the tank), and for having put his political ideology before his duty to entertain. He imagined himself to be some kind of social activist, whereas he was really just an unskilled entertainer.
But his freedoms have not been taken away. He can still say as many stupid and ideologically-possessed things as he always did. He just now has to say them from the street-corner instead of a lavishly-paid post on TV. So he's lost nothing, and we've lost nothing in losing him.
Are you saying that Kimmel's remark was misconstrued by Trump and therefore it's much ado about nothing or are you saying that it wasn't pressure by the FCC chair that caused Kimmel's show to be removed and therefore it's much ado about nothing? Or both or something else?commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 4:33 pm Look closely at what Kimmel did NOT say. He did not say that anyone thought that Peterson was a member of the Right or of MAGA. He said that the Right wanted to be sure that everyone knew that he wasn’t. This is not a condemnation of the Right.
Much ado about nothing?
The former.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 4:46 pmAre you saying that Kimmel's remark was misconstrued by Trump and therefore it's much ado about nothing or are you saying that it wasn't pressure by the FCC chair that caused Kimmel's show to be removed and therefore it's much ado about nothing? Or both or something else?commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 4:33 pm Look closely at what Kimmel did NOT say. He did not say that anyone thought that Peterson was a member of the Right or of MAGA. He said that the Right wanted to be sure that everyone knew that he wasn’t. This is not a condemnation of the Right.
Much ado about nothing?
Disney pulled the plug, through the ABC network. Neither is a particularly "right wing" group, I think you'll agree. The trigger event was Kimmel's attempt to lie to the public about a homosexual, trans-paired Biden supporting murderer being MAGA. That seems to have been just too much nonsense for the public to swallow, and Disney saw the writing on the wall.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:46 pmWhat I've heard is that the chairman of the FCC (Federal Communications Commission), who was appointed by Trump, exerted some kind of pressure (perhaps suggestively at least) on the media company hosting Kimmel's show to take it off the air. Is that not true?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:15 pmKimmel was fired by a Woke company, not by Trump, and for being unfunny (his ratings were in the tank), and for having put his political ideology before his duty to entertain. He imagined himself to be some kind of social activist, whereas he was really just an unskilled entertainer.
But his freedoms have not been taken away. He can still say as many stupid and ideologically-possessed things as he always did. He just now has to say them from the street-corner instead of a lavishly-paid post on TV. So he's lost nothing, and we've lost nothing in losing him.
Ridiculous. Getting something wrong isn't the same as lying. He obviously just got it wrong. He should have shut up until the facts were known. I wouldn't have thought that was a firing offence, but I don't watch American talk shows anyway. They could have simply told him to faux-apologise and state that he was wrong and that in fact the kller was woke as f***. Clearly something 'else' was at play behind the scenes.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:29 pmDisney pulled the plug, through the ABC network. Neither is a particularly "right wing" group, I think you'll agree. The trigger event was Kimmel's attempt to lie to the public about a homosexual, trans-paired Biden supporting murderer being MAGA. That seems to have been just too much nonsense for the public to swallow, and Disney saw the writing on the wall.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:46 pmWhat I've heard is that the chairman of the FCC (Federal Communications Commission), who was appointed by Trump, exerted some kind of pressure (perhaps suggestively at least) on the media company hosting Kimmel's show to take it off the air. Is that not true?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:15 pm
Kimmel was fired by a Woke company, not by Trump, and for being unfunny (his ratings were in the tank), and for having put his political ideology before his duty to entertain. He imagined himself to be some kind of social activist, whereas he was really just an unskilled entertainer.
But his freedoms have not been taken away. He can still say as many stupid and ideologically-possessed things as he always did. He just now has to say them from the street-corner instead of a lavishly-paid post on TV. So he's lost nothing, and we've lost nothing in losing him.
Unusual for them. Disney's about as Woke as any company can be, and has been pumping out a steady stream of Leftist propaganda for years now. Nothing ever stops them, it seems...but I think Kimmel was just not good enough. His ratings were already in the tank, and he'd made himself a public embarassment, and I think they felt they had to distance themselves from his stupidity and incompetence. He was just too obviously wrong.
That's why they didn't fire or censure him, but just "suspended" his show, I would say. But if the FCC, or anyone else, finally helped Disney see the light, then good for them. It sure was obvious to the rest of us, because people were voting with their remote controls already. Kimmel was an ideological stiff. We won't miss him.
