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Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:08 am
by Eodnhoj7
If truth and falsity are but distinctions and the relationship of said truth and falsity is but a distinction then knowledge results in a holographic process of distinctions occuring.

In these respects truth and falsity are subject to distinction processes by which they are not the ultimate occurences, the ultimate reality, as they are subject to the very patterned process which forms them.

Discuss.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:34 am
by Fairy
I suppose the only way to respond to that statement is to make any truth a none truth. And any made falsehoods to be false.

In other words, concepts of any description are manmade, not actual reality.

That’s my opinion only though, obviously other people may choose to form their own, that may appear as being opposed.

Self realisation is a personal experience, direct to the experiencer.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:42 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:34 am I suppose the only way to respond to that statement is to make any truth a none truth. And any made falsehoods to be false.

In other words, concepts of any description are manmade, not actual reality.

That’s my opinion only though, obviously other people may choose to form their own, that may appear as being opposed.

Self realisation is a personal experience, direct to the experiencer.
Truth and falsity are but distinctions within the process of distinction thus are subject by nature to distinction. The essence of the dynamic of truth and falsity is but perceived cause and effect.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:50 am
by Fairy
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:42 pm
Fairy wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:34 am I suppose the only way to respond to that statement is to make any truth a none truth. And any made falsehoods to be false.

In other words, concepts of any description are manmade, not actual reality.

That’s my opinion only though, obviously other people may choose to form their own, that may appear as being opposed.

Self realisation is a personal experience, direct to the experiencer.
Truth and falsity are but distinctions within the process of distinction thus are subject by nature to distinction. The essence of the dynamic of truth and falsity is but perceived cause and effect.
Yes I agree.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:54 am
by Fairy
It’s like today is Wednesday as perceived and yet there’s no such thing as Wednesday, because it’s just a man-made artificial construct , right?

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:25 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:54 am It’s like today is Wednesday as perceived and yet there’s no such thing as Wednesday, because it’s just a man-made artificial construct , right?
Can a thing be limited to its creation by man, such as Wednesday? The same nature of distinction which drives man's awareness is the same nature of distinction by which molecules combine and seperate so as to produce man itself through which man gains awareness of his or her body as distinct.

Is the mind superior to matter or matter superior to mind when they deem eachother as existing, as occuring?

Our evidence, our interpretations are but different degrees and dimension of unfolding spaces when what is constant is space by by the limits we are aware of a thing, by limits is the space of said thing occuring both within and without as but the potential for change or transformation. By looking at the nature of said limits we arrive at form and what is form but space by which things are and may occur?

Be it abstract, physical or emotional we know by degree of the space the becomes evident by their limits.

Creation is merely transformation, and the nature of reality is but transformative for the constant is change itself. If man created such things it was only through the Source. If not created by man it was only through the Source.

How or what creates is irrelevant in the respect of occurence is justification of said things nature.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:04 pm
by Fairy
Eod.

I abide in the “I AM” awareness, source, God. Source having an experience of conditioned human awareness.

As and through source, 👍 yes, as a human I’ve conditioned myself to connect to thoughts, based in either the past or future. But ‘what I already am’ is this present moment, the source itself, I make the distinction by disconnecting from what I am NOT.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:18 am
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:04 pm Eod.

I abide in the “I AM” awareness, source, God. Source having an experience of conditioned human awareness.

As and through source, 👍 yes, as a human I’ve conditioned myself to connect to thoughts, based in either the past or future. But ‘what I already am’ is this present moment, the source itself, I make the distinction by disconnecting from what I am NOT.

We are by what we 'are' and 'are not' for such things give us form.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:32 am
by Fairy
Reform, reform.

A reformed character consciously chooses to stop being bad, it’s just so much easier to be good, and good feels more natural, for good wins every time. The power of Love will never be defeated.

For God even created the devil, already knowing you’d return to the good because that’s the preferred feeling. The default state, indestructible in the face of the devil who is powerless in reality, because even the devil is loved unconditionally.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 5:25 am
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:32 am Reform, reform.

A reformed character consciously chooses to stop being bad, it’s just so much easier to be good, and good feels more natural, for good wins every time. The power of Love will never be defeated.

For God even created the devil, already knowing you’d return to the good because that’s the preferred feeling. The default state, indestructible in the face of the devil who is powerless in reality, because even the devil is loved unconditionally.
All is but purpose given form.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:56 am
by Age
If Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality, then what, exactly, is the 'Ultimate Reality'?

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:18 am
by Fairy
Age wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:56 am If Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality, then what, exactly, is the 'Ultimate Reality'?
Whatever makes you hard.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 1:12 am
by popeye1945
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:08 am If truth and falsity are but distinctions and the relationship of said truth and falsity is but a distinction then knowledge results in a holographic process of distinctions occuring.

In these respects truth and falsity are subject to distinction processes by which they are not the ultimate occurences, the ultimate reality, as they are subject to the very patterned process which forms them. Discuss.
Ultimate reality is what alters one's biology, giving that biology experience through alteration. This experience is processed through the understanding to produce subjective meaning. The organism does not experience ultimate reality; the organism experiences the body understood as biological meaning. This is why it is said we cannot escape our own subjectivity, for apparent reality is but a biological readout. Its meanings belong to the conscious subject and never really to an objective world. The objective world plays biology like it were its instrument, and the melody it plays on this instrument is apparent reality. To experience a different apparent reality, simply alter your biology, for apparent reality differs with the biology that experiences it; in other words, apparent reality is biologically defined. Biology has many forms, but one essence, and collectively is the source of all measures and meanings. Experience is truth, yet fallible; it may not always agree with the physical world, but it is always true to the state of the biology having the experiences. There are as many apparent realities as there are life forms or species.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:41 am
by Phil8659
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:08 am If truth and falsity are but distinctions and the relationship of said truth and falsity is but a distinction then knowledge results in a holographic process of distinctions occuring.

In these respects truth and falsity are subject to distinction processes by which they are not the ultimate occurences, the ultimate reality, as they are subject to the very patterned process which forms them.

Discuss.
Well, let us see, is it possible o discuss anything with a person who needs to hug a whole library of books before they are able to make one cogent statement?
True and false are judgments, moron.

Re: *****Truth and Falsity Are Not the Ultimate Reality

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:55 am
by Eodnhoj7
Phil8659 wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:41 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:08 am If truth and falsity are but distinctions and the relationship of said truth and falsity is but a distinction then knowledge results in a holographic process of distinctions occuring.

In these respects truth and falsity are subject to distinction processes by which they are not the ultimate occurences, the ultimate reality, as they are subject to the very patterned process which forms them.

Discuss.
Well, let us see, is it possible o discuss anything with a person who needs to hug a whole library of books before they are able to make one cogent statement?
True and false are judgments, moron.
Last time I checked, to make a judgement is to make a distinction as a judgement is subject to being a distinction.