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The nature of God is the everpresent potentiality, limitless void, by which infinite actuality occurs by degree of a patterned process of distinction, as that is the nature of actuality itself, where being, as the actual, is but everpresent and infinite distinction by degree of the self contrast of potentiality, evident with the actualized distinction of potentiality itself. The nature of potentiality being distinct is but the occurence of actuality for what is actual is distinct thus by nature God is both evident through existence and beyond it as void.

God exists through the degree of man evidenced by the void nature of man's intellectual, emotional and physical dimensions where this void is but the potentiality by which the constitution of man acts as a central catalyst for change. Man as intermediary is but the superimposition of different dimensions of reality that by nature contains potentiality for further change and transformation evidenced by the act of attention being the process by which change is induced.

By degree man is but a god within, through and of God for the nature of attention, by which he or she derives his or her identity, is but the holographic process of creation itself as transcendental identity, thus endorsing man as having a cosmological or divine dignity endowed by nature of being a mediator of change within known experiential reality and by said degree claims right of co-creator evidenced not of a self created accord but through the intrinsic aspect of awareness itself present within his and her multidimensional constitution.

By the act of attentive distinction is man relatively justified and relatively condemned by degree of effect of given judgements, thus giving experiential reality expression by infinite degrees of awareness, within and without the dimensions of man, where the proto-pattern of the Divine Plan evident within man is the occurence of attention by degree of distinction, through which attention exists.

The constitution of free will evident within man is the potentiality contained by intrinsic act of the awareness of awareness as but a means of choice as to what and how distinctions arise from the interior depths of observation, for choice is evident by degree of selective attention, giving or recieving experience, and from this attention causality is evident where the effects are the distinctions which arise by nature of the fabric of experiential reality itself as but the natural act of awareness. The intrinsic dignity of man is the freedom of attention evident within the observation of the inherent emptiness of the observation of observation from which distinctions spontaneously arise for freedom is pronounce within the possibilities that arise from the interior silence.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:56 am The nature of God is

The nature of God is unknown, unless you have a communicated directly with God.

Have you?

Most have not, and if you know your internal God, your opinion is likely biased.

God, from what the ancients put, was always to be, as scriptures say, unknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways.

You somehow solving the mystery shows your own delusion, perhaps.

Do you name your God?

You guys need to get with the program, and the program is the Eternal Recurrence. That's the only immortality you're gonna get, so stop monkeying around with gnosticism and judaism and platonism and all that baloney. This is all experience is and you still don't realize it as many times as you've already existed. Unbelievable.

You should be able to feel it spontaneously in your bones and see it happening in your head: you die here and enter a sleep longer than eons, for it takes that long before a double snake eyes gets rolled again. When so much time has passed, it's inconceivable. And then, somewhere again, the conditions that made you possible... the whole line of events up to your birth... the gravitational forces pulling clouds of gas together to form planets all the way up to your moms and pops at the drive-through in the back seat makin' out.... they happen again just as they always have over an expanse of unimaginable time. Death is the sleep capsule you wait in until your universe is born again somewhere. Just relax, man. You're comin' back. Full tour.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:34 pm You guys need to get with the program, and the program is the Eternal Recurrence. That's the only immortality you're gonna get, so stop monkeying around with gnosticism and judaism and platonism and all that baloney. This is all experience is and you still don't realize it as many times as you've already existed. Unbelievable.

You should be able to feel it spontaneously in your bones and see it happening in your head: you die here and enter a sleep longer than eons, for it takes that long before a double snake eyes gets rolled again. When so much time has passed, it's inconceivable. And then, somewhere again, the conditions that made you possible... the whole line of events up to your birth... the gravitational forces pulling clouds of gas together to form planets all the way up to your moms and pops at the drive-through in the back seat makin' out.... they happen again just as they always have over an expanse of unimaginable time. Death is the sleep capsule you wait in until your universe is born again somewhere. Just relax, man. You're comin' back. Full tour.

Eternal recurrence is only one dimension. The problem with what you say is that it is true...but not the full truth. Don't be blinded by being partially right...there is more to it than that.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:49 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:56 am The nature of God is

The nature of God is unknown, unless you have a communicated directly with God.

Have you?

Most have not, and if you know your internal God, your opinion is likely biased.

God, from what the ancients put, was always to be, as scriptures say, unknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways.

You somehow solving the mystery shows your own delusion, perhaps.

Do you name your God?

You say the nature of God is unknown and then make the distinction of the "unknown" thus conceptualizing God within a framework while also ascribing a degree of nature, which js a nature within said nature. You fail to see your own paradox and yet are so anxious to criticize from a psychological architecture founded on the sand of subjectivity.

The unknown is purely potential awareness by which awareness occurs by degree of change, awareness is a process of attention. To percieve the unknown for what it is, is the actualization of the unknown as a distinction and awareness occurs only through distinction. Because of the unknown we know by the default of its distinction.

God is both known and unknown for that conceptual experience of God comes from that which is both known and unknown.

The Name of God? "That Who Is"...one of the many infinite names... for "what is" is expressed by many "who's" and there are many "what's" that arise as collective conditions that result in a "who".

Keep going, you’re doing well, avoiding the eddies, gliding effortlessly with smooth continuous flux, resisting the resistance of crunching grinds while flowing with the rivers returning to the ocean.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:49 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:56 am The nature of God is

The nature of God is unknown, unless you have a communicated directly with God.

Have you?

Most have not, and if you know your internal God, your opinion is likely biased.

God, from what the ancients put, was always to be, as scriptures say, unknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways.

LOL 'This' is just what quite a lot people say when they do not, yet, know some thing. It is even a common claim among the "scientific" community, among all people.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:49 pm You somehow solving the mystery shows your own delusion, perhaps.

Do you name your God?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:01 am

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:49 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:56 am The nature of God is

The nature of God is unknown, unless you have a communicated directly with God.

Have you?

Most have not, and if you know your internal God, your opinion is likely biased.

God, from what the ancients put, was always to be, as scriptures say, unknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways.

You somehow solving the mystery shows your own delusion, perhaps.

Do you name your God?

You say the nature of God is unknown and then make the distinction of the "unknown" thus conceptualizing God within a framework while also ascribing a degree of nature, which js a nature within said nature. You fail to see your own paradox and yet are so anxious to criticize from a psychological architecture founded on the sand of subjectivity.

The unknown is purely potential awareness by which awareness occurs by degree of change, awareness is a process of attention. To percieve the unknown for what it is, is the actualization of the unknown as a distinction and awareness occurs only through distinction. Because of the unknown we know by the default of its distinction.

God is both known and unknown for that conceptual experience of God comes from that which is both known and unknown.

The Name of God? "That Who Is"...one of the many infinite names... for "what is" is expressed by many "who's" and there are many "what's" that arise as collective conditions that result in a "who".

As I said, unknowable, unfathomable and mysterious.

I do think we can know for a fact that God is not likely the genocidal a hole that Christians adore.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:03 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:01 am

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:49 pm

The nature of God is unknown, unless you have a communicated directly with God.

Have you?

Most have not, and if you know your internal God, your opinion is likely biased.

God, from what the ancients put, was always to be, as scriptures say, unknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways.

You somehow solving the mystery shows your own delusion, perhaps.

Do you name your God?

You say the nature of God is unknown and then make the distinction of the "unknown" thus conceptualizing God within a framework while also ascribing a degree of nature, which js a nature within said nature. You fail to see your own paradox and yet are so anxious to criticize from a psychological architecture founded on the sand of subjectivity.

The unknown is purely potential awareness by which awareness occurs by degree of change, awareness is a process of attention. To percieve the unknown for what it is, is the actualization of the unknown as a distinction and awareness occurs only through distinction. Because of the unknown we know by the default of its distinction.

God is both known and unknown for that conceptual experience of God comes from that which is both known and unknown.

The Name of God? "That Who Is"...one of the many infinite names... for "what is" is expressed by many "who's" and there are many "what's" that arise as collective conditions that result in a "who".

As I said, unknowable, unfathomable and mysterious.

I do think we can know for a fact that God is not likely the genocidal a hole that Christians adore.

If unknowable you cannot say he isn't either...if one is being fair.

He may appear, he may not, he may both, he may neither.

If the true God is omnipresent and all powerful, and the Christian God is the monster (that is not the true God) you claim it is, than the all powerful God allowed the Christian God and thus bears responsibility for it. By extension of responsibility the Christian God is by degree an extension of the True God as one of its manifestations.

Given this manifestation the Christian God is effectively True by degree of the Source.

If all things are founded upon nothing, than existence itself is a mystery. The void is beyond knowing, for there is nothing to be known.

If all things are founded upon things then existence is without compare thus nothing, thus founded on nothing, than again existence itself is a mystery.

Things only occur if they have the potential to do so, for the potentiality allows change that necessitates their necessary contrast for existence. For example a car cannot move if there is something in its way, there has to be a relative void for it to do so.

If potentiality is unactuality, than existence only occurs if there is void. Void is everpresent cause by degree of being everpresent potentiality by which things occur.

The potentiality of things is the cause of things.

This void is present at the center of the human condition, it is the divinity of man for the void is without limit thus the potentiality of man is godhood by degree of God.

I think I can agree on this as it took me some stages to reach my God status.

I guess the mystery part that the ancients names was due to us not knowing on which rung of Jacobs ladder we have reached.

Do you know which level your have reached?

Do you know your God?

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:11 pm I think I can agree on this as it took me some stages to reach my God status.

I guess the mystery part that the ancients names was due to us not knowing on which rung of Jacobs ladder we have reached.

Do you know which level your have reached?

Do you know your God?

I have no interest in my level as regardless of level there is always one rung in front of me, one behind me and the one I am always on.

That is all I know of my status...3 rungs. That is all I personally need to know.

But that is just me, I am hesitant to judge other's journeys...I don't know enough of their interior or exterior circumstances. Even if I did, my judgement is futile, it is of little benefit to anyone including myself. The judgement of good and evil in others is a trap I have learned. It kills the potentiality for many.

I only percieve cause and effect at this point of my journey.

Anyhow...my God?

What I am aware of, and the limitations of what I am aware of.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 4:49 am
Anyhow...my God?

What I am aware of, and the limitations of what I am aware of.

Good.
Others should follow such thinking.

If Christians and Muslims did that, they would not have grown by inquisitions and jihads.

Look at 'these people' bickering and fighting over what they do not yet even know, as they do already know.

Look,

What the very thing that God is said to be is blatantly obvious, that is, once assuming and believing is removed.

Who the very thing that God is said to be is blatantly obvious, that is, once assuming and believing is removed.

'Divinity' is a good title for this thread as 'these people' are showing, with proof, how and why they are, still, after many, many years divided.

Instead of being united, and living and resting in 'Unity', they are residing in 'divinity'.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:11 pm I think I can agree on this as it took me some stages to reach my God status.

I guess the mystery part that the ancients names was due to us not knowing on which rung of Jacobs ladder we have reached.

Do you know which level your have reached?

Do you know your God?

AI

The Bible states that Jacob encountered God, referring to it as seeing God "face to face" in Genesis 32:30, after wrestling with a divine being. Jacob named the place Peniel, meaning "face of God," because he believed he had seen God in human form, or a theophany, without his life being immediately taken. This encounter, though not a full manifestation of God's glory, was an extraordinary and transforming experience for Jacob.

The Biblical Account
The Wrestling Match: In Genesis 32, Jacob wrestles with a divine being (often interpreted as God or an angel) through the night.
Naming the Place: At the end of the struggle, Jacob names the place Peniel, declaring, "I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been spared".


A Changed Man: The encounter leaves Jacob with a permanent injury to his hip, symbolizing the profound and powerful nature of this supernatural interaction.
Interpreting "Face to Face"


A Theophany: The encounter with the "man" at the Jabbok River is described as a theophany, a manifestation of God in human form.
Preserved Life: Jacob's surprise that his life was spared suggests a belief that seeing God fully would have been fatal, as noted in other biblical instances, such as Exodus 33:20.


Spiritual Significance: The phrase "face to face" can also mean appearing in someone's presence or in their stead. In this case, it highlights the intense and direct nature of the encounter and the significance of God's revealed presence to Jacob.

"A Changed Man"

Indeed, but for the worse. The proper attitude toward a supernatural experience like his would be to refuse and deny it; he does not play peek-a-boo games with gods, nor would he praise a god that would provide revelation only to him (that's not fair to his fellow men).

Wrestling with an angel should be enough to bring any rightminded individual to this conclusion. I can't stress enough how critical total emancipation from god is for the virtuous dude. The virtuous dude puts man before God and himself before man.