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Does anyone else see the absolute wrongness in the above heading?

Is this your first thread, little old Kenny? Would you prefer it if Israel did not allow foreign countries to drop aid into Gaza, aid that Hamas steals for itself and then sells? Aid that Hamas kills Gazans for lining up for? THAT aid?

accelafine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:51 am Is this your first thread, little old Kenny?

If you had looked you would already have the answer "vegetariantaxidermy".

The rest will be ignored, as it deserves.

accelafine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:51 am Would you prefer it if Israel did not allow foreign countries to drop aid into Gaza, aid that Hamas steals for itself and then sells? Aid that Hamas kills Gazans for lining up for? THAT aid?

As was just pointed out by 'the one' above, allowing aid in to Gaza is very wrong, correct?

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 2:29 am As was just pointed out by 'the one' above, allowing aid in to Gaza is very wrong, correct?

You tell me, kenny the nazi.

So, "accelafine" does believe, absolutely, that "jews" allowing aid into "gaza" is very wrong.

Which is obviously very true.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:09 am Does anyone else see the absolute wrongness in the above heading?

What is wrong with Israel allowing humanitarian aid from other countries into Gaza?

as if Israel (or anyone for that sake) controls her borders

just send the "proper" aid everywhere

-Imp

Impenitent wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:06 pm as if Israel (or anyone for that sake) controls her borders

just send the "proper" aid everywhere

-Imp

Are you suggesting that had Israel not controlled Gaza before war broke out there perhaps would have been no war at all? That seems possible I suppose.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:26 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:06 pm as if Israel (or anyone for that sake) controls her borders

just send the "proper" aid everywhere

-Imp

Are you suggesting that had Israel not controlled Gaza before war broke out there perhaps would have been no war at all? That seems possible I suppose.

never in world history has a war broke out after "foreigners" occupy land that has been previously held by someone else...

never

-Imp

Impenitent wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:03 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:26 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:06 pm as if Israel (or anyone for that sake) controls her borders

just send the "proper" aid everywhere

-Imp

Are you suggesting that had Israel not controlled Gaza before war broke out there perhaps would have been no war at all? That seems possible I suppose.

never in world history has a war broke out after "foreigners" occupy land that has been previously held by someone else...

never

-Imp

Ok. So it sounds like you are being sarcastic because we all know that there have indeed been wars when people have had their lands invaded by others. So it's either a failed attempt at sarcasm or you are saying that Gazans were justified in fighting Israeli control over Gaza.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 2:00 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:09 am Does anyone else see the absolute wrongness in the above heading?

What is wrong with Israel allowing humanitarian aid from other countries into Gaza?

The fact that absolutely any one could have even considered that the human beings of one country had some sort of 'right' to decide whether children and babies in another country could be given aid, or not.

In what kind of universe would the adults in one country be given 'the power' to decide whether the children in another live, or die?

Who gave the adults in "israel" 'the power' to decide when the rest of the whole world are allowed to provide aid in "gaza"?

It is absolutely outrageous that adults in one country could even hold 'a decision' of when and/or whether or not the children in 'that country' could be provided with aid, by other countries. But it is beyond absolute comprehension that the whole world has waited for the adults in "israel" to decide that it is only 'now' permissable other countries are allowed to drop aid, to hungry and starving children, in another country.

Who gave the people of "israel" so much 'power' as to when it is permissible for any one, let alone the 'whole world', to just feed hungry babies?

In what kind of Truly distorted adult created system is 'the decision' to 'allow' aid, or not, to the 'people' of one country or culture decided by a 'hand full of people' who reside in a complete other country?

Once upon a time if the people of one ethnicity or culture just 'had the choice', let alone were allowed to 'make the decision', of who, and how many, adults of another ethnicity, religion, or culture could live, or not, by having 'the choice' of when, and where, aid could be dropped or given, or not, then this would have been known as ethnic cleansing, genocide, or cultural genocide. But, 'now', it appears, that not just some human beings, but the 'whole world', have decided to wait until (an) adult/s in "israel" has 'decided' when the human beings of "gaza" could be provided with medical care and other life supporting aid, like just 'food', of all things?

Could the 'human being created world', in the days when this is being written, become more 'backwards', more 'racially separated', more unjust, more unenlightened, and/or just plain old 'more insane'?

Imagine living in 'a world' where it was allowed that one country, with a relatively endless supply of any weapon and defences, had control over and was allowed to bomb and murder the people of another country with, relatively in comparison, no actual weapons nor defences at all, and the so-called "leader" of the former country was then allowed 'the decision' of when the human beings of the latter country were 'allowed' to be given food, or not, by the rest of the 'whole world'?

Why has the 'rest of the world' waited for one human being of one culture and religion to decide when the children of another culture and religion are allowed to be given 'aid', of all things?

Have you adult human beings completely lost your sense of what is Right, good, and just, in Life?

For starters 'that' is what is Wrong with 'allowing' "israel"
to 'decide' when, and if, humanitarian aid, from other countries, is 'allowed' to be given to starving human beings into 'gaza'.

By definition, 'aid', should never ever be prevent from being provided to absolutely any one, by absolutely any one. And, especially more so when the 'aid' is for children.

The fact that a person of one 'race', culture, or religion holds 'the power' and 'the decision' of when the people of another 'race', culture, or religion are allowed to eat, or not, 'stinks' of blatant ethnic and cultural cleansing that to suggest that it is not is unjustifiable, and unforgettable.

And, to make this 'not allowing of aid' far worse this is happening 'now', after the people, with 'power', have very obviously been racially, ethnically, and culturally 'wanting to cleanse', and have been 'cleansing' , those lands.

I hope people have been paying enough attention to realize this is not simply a problem of getting aid into Gaza but includes the problem of getting aid distributed once within Gaza (infighting over who gets to control distribution). There is a very large amount of aid just sitting there waiting for someone to distribute.

To a certain extent, air drops address that second problem, as aid gets to whoever gets to where the parachuted pallets land. No "distributing agencies" involved.

Impenitent wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:06 pm as if Israel (or anyone for that sake) controls her borders

just send the "proper" aid everywhere

-Imp

It really is 'that obvious', hey?

Imagine living in 'a world' where some people actually thought or believed that it was just, and/or all right, that the giving of 'aid', or not, could even be 'a decision'?

MikeNovack wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:35 am I hope people have been paying enough attention to realize this is not simply a problem of getting aid into Gaza but includes the problem of getting aid distributed once within Gaza (infighting over who gets to control distribution). There is a very large amount of aid just sitting there waiting for someone to distribute.

In the last few thousand or so years, in a lot of or most cultures/countries, has there not been 'infighting' involved in the distribution of money, or previously held back food and aid?

Since the introduction of 'wanting' non life supporting things into the human psyche has the 'who gets control' not been one of the leading causes of and/or the vast majority of infighting?

MikeNovack wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:35 am To a certain extent, air drops address that second problem, as aid gets to whoever gets to where the parachuted pallets land. No "distributing agencies" involved.

Agreed.

But imagine if aid was never denied nor prevented, from the outset. In fact, imagine if the bombing and killing had never even started. Imagine now if the build up of hatred, from being oppressed for so long, had never even begun. Then, imagine if 'the understanding' of where all of the difference in just opinions/views/religions came from, exactly, was already known?

See, when the latter is known, then what has happened, and is 'currently' happening, in "gaza" would not have even begun. So, wondering how and where to best distribute aid would have never ever become a 'talking point'

Also, 'deciding' where to drop, and/or how to distribute, aid in a flood or drought is one thing, but to be wondering how to distribute aid just because of adult human beings greedy and selfish distorted thinking is completely different. It should not even be some thing to be wondering and thinking about.