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Why?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:12 pm
by Gary Childress
How did Philosophy Now end up with so many 'thugs' preaching politics? And if you don't know who I am referring to, at this point, I see a few posters seemingly glorifying violence, intimidation, and threats as the solution to pursuing national interests. I'm specifically referring to them.

@ them: Why do you see those things as worthwhile avenues to pursue?

Re: Why?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:18 pm
by ThinkOfOne
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:12 pm How did Philosophy Now end up with so many 'thugs' preaching politics? And if you don't know who I am referring to, at this point, I see a few posters seemingly glorifying violence, intimidation, and threats as the solution to pursuing national interests. I'm specifically referring to them.

@ them: Why do you see those things as worthwhile avenues to pursue?
The following excerpts from a Psychology Today article from 2016 should help you to understand what you've been experiencing:
[Demagoguery] refers to a charismatic political leader (or wannabe) whose vociferous words and outspoken opinions are persuasive to many people, but are found to be offensive or threatening by others.
Demagogues tend to be narcissistic and authoritarian, as well as brazen, bombastic and belligerent. Their vitriol appeals to the vulnerable and darker places in psyches and hearts. They fuel emotional fires in their zealous followers with sentiments of prejudice, bigotry, hate, hyper-patriotism and xenophobia.

While demagoguery is often “homegrown,” it is truly an international phenomenon: A few noted demagogues in the past century include Adolph Hitler (Germany), Joseph Stalin (Russia), Joseph McCarthy (USA), Pol Pot (Cambodia), Benito Mussolini (Italy), Sukarno (Indonesia), Mao Tse Tung (China), Saddam Hussein (Iraq), Juan Peron (Argentina), Roderido Duterto (Philippines), and Islam Karimov (Uzbekistan).

All these men were despots, but we should remember that most of them were voted into office! The angrier and more hateful the demagogues’ words, the more their popularity seems to soar among their acolytes.

Demagogues’ strident opinions engender dark feelings like fear and anger in their followers, who are especially vulnerable during times of personal or social turmoil, or when they feel that they and their families are threatened.

Demagogues rail against imminent threats inside and outside their countries from enemies they blame for causing the national misfortunes. People are swayed to join their fiery campaigns against the “knaves and fools” who caused their own and societies' travails.
Demagogues’ strident opinions engender dark feelings like fear and anger in their followers, who are especially vulnerable during times of personal or social turmoil, or when they feel that they and their families are threatened.

Those most susceptible to the persuasive skills of demagogues often feel like “have-nots,” deprived and resentful at those who are more fortunate, particularly among the educated, wealthy and governing classes.

When passionate speeches promise to rid their country of enemies and simple solutions to their miseries, they are captivated and swayed. They believe the rhetoric, angry juices flow and passions are inflamed.

The fervent followers feel empowered, that they will finally get action on their behalf. The demagogue is seen as a veritable "savior" who will destroy their enemies and bring back the good “old values."


From <https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... -demagogue>
Given that it's the same playbook that Hitler used to incite his followers, you'd think that people would know better than to fall for it less than 100 years later. Clearly the world continues to produce many "adults" who fail to mature emotionally and mentally. They hold self-centered and simplistic views.

Re: Why?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:53 pm
by Impenitent
"and the meek shall inherit the Earth..."

but when they do, it will be a burned out crust

-Imp

Re: Why?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:15 pm
by Gary Childress
Impenitent wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:53 pm "and the meek shall inherit the Earth..."

but when they do, it will be a burned out crust

-Imp
Yeah. Thanks to all the thugs out there. "Good job." "Nice going." You ruined it for everyone.

Re: Why?

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:21 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Can you quote any of these 'thugs'? Why don't you stop them?

Re: Why?

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:44 pm
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:12 pm How did Philosophy Now end up with so many 'thugs' preaching politics? And if you don't know who I am referring to, at this point, I see a few posters seemingly glorifying violence, intimidation, and threats as the solution to pursuing national interests. I'm specifically referring to them.

@ them: Why do you see those things as worthwhile avenues to pursue?
If you are not specific on who 'them' are, fully, and exactly, then do you really expect a response, to your questions, here?

Re: Why?

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:45 pm
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Impenitent wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:53 pm "and the meek shall inherit the Earth..."

but when they do, it will be a burned out crust

-Imp
Yeah. Thanks to all the thugs out there. "Good job." "Nice going." You ruined it for everyone.
Once again, it is always every or any one else's fault.

Re: Why?

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:08 pm
by Gary Childress
Age wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:45 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Impenitent wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:53 pm "and the meek shall inherit the Earth..."

but when they do, it will be a burned out crust

-Imp
Yeah. Thanks to all the thugs out there. "Good job." "Nice going." You ruined it for everyone.
Once again, it is always every or any one else's fault.
If someone thinks war is a solution to anything or just jumps on the war bandwagon egging it on like a cheerleader, then it seems to me that they are responsible for enabling our leaders to create and continue wars. I've been saying the opposite on here.

If I'm responsible for the wars, then I see it as my responsibility to call for peace and try to stop people from cheerleading for war, which is what I've been doing from the beginning. Is there something else you want me to do? Or what do you see me doing that shows that I am not taking "responsibility" for the current wars?

Re: Why?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:47 am
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:08 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:45 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:15 pm

Yeah. Thanks to all the thugs out there. "Good job." "Nice going." You ruined it for everyone.
Once again, it is always every or any one else's fault.
If someone thinks war is a solution to anything or just jumps on the war bandwagon egging it on like a cheerleader, then it seems to me that they are responsible for enabling our leaders to create and continue wars. I've been saying the opposite on here.

If I'm responsible for the wars, then I see it as my responsibility to call for peace and try to stop people from cheerleading for war, which is what I've been doing from the beginning.
If there were more than one Universe, which there very clearly is not, then in what Universe would just 'calling for peace', and just, 'trying to' stop people from cheer leading for war', ever going to stop war?
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:08 pm Is there something else you want me to do?
Yes. Do what actually prevents all wars, and thus what creates actual peace.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:08 pm Or what do you see me doing that shows that I am not taking "responsibility" for the current wars?
you are not seeking out what 'it' is, exactly, which you have done, and are doing, that has helped in the creating of what you call 'the current wars'.

Re: Why?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:04 pm
by Impenitent
"life is the will to power, and nothing beside..." - Nietzsche

-Imp

Re: Why?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:25 pm
by Walker
Who is on first, what is on second, and why knows home (plate).

Re: Why?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:36 pm
by Walker
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:12 pm How did Philosophy Now end up with so many 'thugs' preaching politics? And if you don't know who I am referring to, at this point, I see a few posters seemingly glorifying violence, intimidation, and threats as the solution to pursuing national interests. I'm specifically referring to them.

@ them: Why do you see those things as worthwhile avenues to pursue?
“Crude and slow, Clansman, your attack was no better than that of a clumsy child.” :evil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBLfhhgzQGU

:P

Re: Why?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:59 pm
by Walker
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Impenitent wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:53 pm "and the meek shall inherit the Earth..."

but when they do, it will be a burned out crust

-Imp
Yeah. Thanks to all the thugs out there. "Good job." "Nice going." You ruined it for everyone.
The Iceman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlGB0xIqEKc
(violent, predatory scene as explained by the commentary, so be forewarned)

Commentary:
I think this scene is especially disturbing to mothers and fathers because it so graphically illustrates the nature of a predatory universe. Punk-ass pussy thugs without such responsibilities see thuggishness behind every bush. :wink:

:lol:

Any mother or father who does not Cognize the predatory nature of the universe is an irresponsible fool, and not worthy of the child that human nature requires them to protect. The self-absorbed see this as thuggary.

The movie is about the imagined life, based on scientific evidence, of the mummy found in Austria in 1991, after a glacier receded.

The movie is about human nature then in a predatory universe which is still the universe, only now in modern times the threat of more penalties by society influences the behavior of humans in a predatory universe.

Re: Why?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:11 pm
by Walker
Age wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:45 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Impenitent wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:53 pm "and the meek shall inherit the Earth..."

but when they do, it will be a burned out crust

-Imp
Yeah. Thanks to all the thugs out there. "Good job." "Nice going." You ruined it for everyone.
Once again, it is always every or any one else's fault.
That's what happens when one soars above the spectacle, detached and apart from the spectacle.

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Men, such as those in Israel, do all that they can to protect the civilians of their enemies.

Thugs target the civilians, as they did on October 7, 2023, to Israelis in Israel.

Thugs also use their children as human shields.

This happens in modern times, when everything is just so complex, but also quite simple with life as the measure.

This is so simple even a child can understand.

Re: Why?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:27 pm
by Walker
ThinkOfOne wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:18 pm Given that it's the same playbook that Hitler used to incite his followers, you'd think that people would know better than to fall for it less than 100 years later. Clearly the world continues to produce many "adults" who fail to mature emotionally and mentally. They hold self-centered and simplistic views.
That's a rather shallow, crude, snooty and thuggish response.
Hopefully, the forum will recover.

:lol:

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It's a well-known fact that the Iranian mantra, Death to the Great Satan, has been manipulated by AI.

The mantra has been truncated. Abbreviated. Edited. Trimmed. Censored.

The Iranian mantra is actually : Death To The Great Satan! (pause) ... just kidding, just kidding. (insert evil laugh)