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The universe can be created once and infinitely. An example is a line segment. Upon first inspection there is only it. Upon further inspection it composed of infinite fractal line segments that appear as individual line segments.

So in perceiving a line segment one may see a part of a large line segment and many small line segments but regardless of which one is seen there is still only a line segment no matter how one views it.

The line segment both contains and it a part of line segments as an infinite singular occurence given now matter how one percieves it there is only a line segment.

Now the question of "universe", as in the meaning of the word. It is inseperable from experience as the universe is merely our perception of things with the limits of this experience being the boundaries that allow for a percievable sense of order for without limits there is no order and without order being ceases as it becomes impercievable. Chaos is paradoxical in this regards as the absence of percievable order is bound by the repeatable qualities of asymmetry and seperation thus resulting in an inherent meta structure within it.

how many line segments are located within a point?

-Imp

Impenitent wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:11 pm how many line segments are located within a point?

-Imp

Simple: the number of points within a point and the space between each pair.

"The phenomenal, tangible world is movement, not a collection of moving objects, but movement itself. There are no objects "in movements", it is the movement which constitutes the objects that appear to us : they are nothing but movement.
This movement is a continued and infinitelv rapid succession of flashes of energy. All objects perceptible to our senses, all phenomena of whatever kind and whatever aspect they may assume, are constituted by a rapid succession of instantaneous events."

from Tibetan Buddhist Teachings by Alexandra David-Neal

waechter418 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:14 pm "The phenomenal, tangible world is movement, not a collection of moving objects, but movement itself. There are no objects "in movements", it is the movement which constitutes the objects that appear to us : they are nothing but movement.
This movement is a continued and infinitelv rapid succession of flashes of energy. All objects perceptible to our senses, all phenomena of whatever kind and whatever aspect they may assume, are constituted by a rapid succession of instantaneous events."

from Tibetan Buddhist Teachings by Alexandra David-Neal

One rate of movement relative to another different rate of movement, either slower or faster, is a thing. A thing is merely a rate of change.

Thoughts?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:38 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:11 pm how many line segments are located within a point?

-Imp

Simple: the number of points within a point and the space between each pair.

Pointless.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:59 am The universe can be created once and infinitely. An example is a line segment. Upon first inspection there is only it. Upon further inspection it composed of infinite fractal line segments that appear as individual line segments.

So in perceiving a line segment one may see a part of a large line segment and many small line segments but regardless of which one is seen there is still only a line segment no matter how one views it.

The line segment both contains and it a part of line segments as an infinite singular occurence given now matter how one percieves it there is only a line segment.

But, why provide 'an example' of a 'line segment', or anything else for that matter?

Why not just provide and use the Universe, Itself, as 'the example'.

After all the Universe, Itself, is One eternal evolving=creation, HERE-NOW.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:59 am Now the question of "universe", as in the meaning of the word. It is inseperable from experience as the universe is merely our perception of things with the limits of this experience being the boundaries that allow for a percievable sense of order for without limits there is no order and without order being ceases as it becomes impercievable. Chaos is paradoxical in this regards as the absence of percievable order is bound by the repeatable qualities of asymmetry and seperation thus resulting in an inherent meta structure within it.

As can be clearly seen, here, these human beings, continually, 'look for' words to use, which they hope will back up and support their 'current' belief/s, but which obviously can fail absolutely.

The 'Universe', by definition, has to be and thus can only be the One, and only, infinite and eternal Thing. End of story.

And, the Fact that the One and only Universe is in constant-change, HERE, NOW, eternally, means that the Universe is perpetual creation, and thus could not have been 'created', 'before', like you posters, here, perceived and imagined. This Fact is irrefutable, as well, and thus is the end of the story, also.

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 9:57 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:38 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:11 pm how many line segments are located within a point?

-Imp

Simple: the number of points within a point and the space between each pair.

Pointless.

An infinite expanse is but a single point as neither have dimensions.